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Emacs or Vim

Emacs
11 (37.9%)
Vim
11 (37.9%)
DOS edit
1 (3.4%)
other
6 (20.7%)

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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #15 on: 19 December 2005, 03:09 »
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Like edlin which isn't included in MS-DOS 5 to Windows ME

Eh?  I'm pretty sure it's there.  I don't have any DOS 5.0 disks to check, but my manual for it describes Edlin in excruciating detail.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #16 on: 19 December 2005, 12:01 »
I was an emacs user, but I use vim now, or just TextEdit.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #17 on: 20 December 2005, 00:24 »
Quote from: Calum
actually (and i know this is pedantic) but vi isn't a command line text editor. ed is a command line text editor, however vi is a text based graphical text editor.


How about we just say "non-X editor"?

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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #18 on: 20 December 2005, 00:39 »
Quote from: WMD
Eh?  I'm pretty sure it's there.  I don't have any DOS 5.0 disks to check, but my manual for it describes Edlin in excruciating detail.

I'm sure it was missing in DOS 6, 6.22, on second thoughts I don't really know about Windows 9x I just assumed because it wasn't present in DOS 6.x it was absent in Win 9x.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #19 on: 20 December 2005, 20:50 »
I just use nano, the only thing I really used it for was editing /etc/apt/sources.list on some ancient computer that couldn't even run xdm. Either that or editing .bash_profile to run DarwinPorts.

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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #20 on: 29 December 2005, 00:17 »
EMACS most of the time, and vim/pico/nano for those jobs where X isn't running. Although vim does have the convert to hex feature that's handy to have.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #21 on: 29 December 2005, 00:52 »
i wonder why nobody voted for DOS edit yet

that's actually misleading, since the versions of edit for DR-DOS, MSDOS and FreeDOS, while similar, are noticeably different. i prefer edit.com from DR-DOS to edit.exe from MSDOS for instance. However the FreeDOS version (which is functionally the same as the MS one) is totally open source.

but i prefer vim, and would make sure it was also installed on any DOS system i (for goodness knows what reason) might have
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #22 on: 29 December 2005, 01:21 »
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i wonder why nobody voted for DOS edit yet


Probably because this is Microsuck and when you mention DOS edit people automatically think of MS-DOS edit which is M$ and it sucks anyhow.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #23 on: 2 January 2006, 06:26 »
vi or pico or something. Its closer to the bare minimum you need to edit a text file.

emacs is just bloat. There is a mini version but no one uses that ...

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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #24 on: 2 January 2006, 23:30 »
if you want to use emacs, i found there are some good clones of it around, which are a lot smaller, and they have most of the functionality of emacs as a text editor, my favourites were jove, jmacs and i had one on a DOS machine called freemacs, not sure if that was based on the real emacs or if it was an open source clone, but it was a good one to have installed on a DOS machine.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #25 on: 5 January 2006, 11:55 »
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vi or pico or something. Its closer to the bare minimum you need to edit a text file.

emacs is just bloat. There is a mini version but no one uses that ...


Not really. When doing programming, it's very convenient to be able to have everything right there, as opposed to having another desktop open and switching back and forth to edit and compile. For just plain old text editing, I prefer JEdit.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #26 on: 5 January 2006, 16:25 »
Pico all the way. If I need more time to type commands for a fucking editor than to write a shell script, there is something very wrong there.

 I use Vi only when I dont have any other editor.
I never used emacs and I have no interest in learning it.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #27 on: 5 January 2006, 19:21 »
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #28 on: 9 January 2006, 23:46 »
I keep a copy of GNU Emacs on my flash drive, because all the good computers I can use are stuck with Winshit. I'd actually prefer an emacs-type editor in Perl (If no one else has made it I will)

I hate vim. vim sucks almost as much dick as microcrap.

Ed is too terse and unusable

vi is good, but I prefer Emacs.
Besides, I usually stay on the console and don't touch X unless I need to.

Edit? Don't make me laugh. Never touch it.

Nano/pico? Maybe good, I've never tried it.
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Re: Emacs, or Vim?
« Reply #29 on: 11 January 2006, 09:04 »
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I keep a copy of GNU Emacs on my flash drive, because all the good computers I can use are stuck with Winshit. I'd actually prefer an emacs-type editor in Perl (If no one else has made it I will)

I hate vim. vim sucks almost as much dick as microcrap.

Ed is too terse and unusable

vi is good, but I prefer Emacs.
Besides, I usually stay on the console and don't touch X unless I need to.

Edit? Don't make me laugh. Never touch it.

Nano/pico? Maybe good, I've never tried it.


If im on a console i always use nano, way better then vi

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