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Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: mobrien_12 on 12 February 2006, 07:15
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RFID is getting really scary. A company is now requiring employees to have RFID implants in their bodies to access the data center. The company says they won't fire anyone who refuses, but this is, of course, bullshit. If your job requires you to enter the data center, you are required to have your body modified to do your job.
http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/02/12/0031213.shtml
The company web page can be found through the slashdot article. It has a toll free number on it at the bottom. I called this company and very courteously told the representative who answered that this policy is horrible, and that they were going to get public backlash for it.
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I think I'd be looking for another job unless they offered me a very large sum of money and the option of having it removed when I do decide to leave.
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This is stupid. Not only is it something which the company should have no control over (you're getting a microchip injected. I think thats the kinda thing that should be up to you and not your employer), but it's untested and proven to be unsecure it's stupid to only rely on one security measure.
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Permanent body modifications required to do a job? Yay! Especially yay as it's only for identification purposes, much like nazi slave bar codes ;)
Additionally, having injected microchip increases possibilities for an external attacker (as long as it doesn't do cryptographic authentication) as opposed to having something to carry with.
The only advantage seems to be that you can't give the access badge to someone else if it's injected into you, so it seems this measure exists because the company doesn't trust its own employees. And if they aren't trusted, it's pretty damn pointless to let them in the data center anyway. So, doh! :)
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Resistence is futile. You will be assimilated.
:D
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you can't give the access badge to someone else if it's injected into you
Chop off your hand and give it to them.
"Do you need a hand?"
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glass encapsulated RFID tag from VeriChip must be injected into the bicep
They put it in your bicep ... this means they'd have to cut off your entire arm ... a chainsaw should do well for this purpose.
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The only advantage seems to be that you can't give the access badge to someone else if it's injected into you, so it seems this measure exists because the company doesn't trust its own employees. And if they aren't trusted, it's pretty damn pointless to let them in the data center anyway. So, doh! :)
They can be copied. Easily by someone who knows what there doing. All that needs to be done to get the code in the chip is someone brushing up against you in the subway or bumping into you in the street with a reader in there hand.
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Well if it's that easy then why are they doing it ? Maybe they have other hidden reasons ...
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I'm working on software for a RFID reader at the moment with a required minimum working range of .8 meters. Could just have it in a brief case and walk past, to regenerate the signal takes probably 20 bucks and 2 brain cells.
Its an absolutely stupid idea. Implanting it has little security benefits especially with the entire security sector moving towards tertiary input sources like iris scan/finger prints which are far harder to duplicate and acquire :P.
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Well if it's that easy then why are they doing it ? Maybe they have other hidden reasons ...
Why do people run Windows? Granted it's not the same but quite similar.
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i have a better idea Voice + logic Security! :D
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You're on the right track, using biometeric data is far more secure than implants which are a stupid idea.
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If it doesn't serve a security purpose for the company ... it might be used to track your whereabouts instead ... techinically not absolute location as it supposedly works from less than 1 meter away, but at least where you are in the building.
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that's one reason why it's good for the company right enough.
is this not illegal by the way? it should be.
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that's one reason why it's good for the company right enough.
is this not illegal by the way? it should be.
Not as far as I know, though if it gets large media attention from BBC & CNN it could become an issue...
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I think I'd be looking for another job unless they offered me a very large sum of money and the option of having it removed when I do decide to leave.
I take this back, accepting a large sum of money for this would be like selling my soul. :scared:
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Let's not forget the mutant X-Factor. Mystique, in both "X-Men" movies, was able to break biometric security because she could emulate other people's biometrics. I don't think her mutant abilities could override internal microchip security.
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also, due to natural selection, people will start evolving their own internal microchips after a few generations and then everybody'll have them. Subdermal microchipping has simply got too many flaws to be a sensible method for security purposes.
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I wonder ... can Wolverine get lung cancer from smoking ?
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It depends on how well he heals, and how much he smokes. His body might not know what to do with a tumor - would it turn the tumor into good tissue, or flush it out the backdoor like a waste product - or would it deal with it at all?
Also, the carbon buildup in your lungs from beathing smoky air (including cigarette smoke, campfire smoke, or car exhaust, whether it is toxic or not) never goes away.
Fortunately for WeaponX, the lungs can heal any diminished capacity caused by smoking - a normal human can regain a decent percentage of lung capacity within a month of quitting, so I suspect Wolverine can get his lungs back up within a day or so.
If you will recall "X-Men 2", Wolverine gets shot - a bullet straight into his forehead. Shortly thereafter, he heals, and the bullet just sorta falls out of his head. What do you suppose would happen to an ID chip? Or for that matter, a tumor?
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However, the bullet had an exit route, that was the path it cut through his brain tissue when it hit him. Without an exit point, the tumor would be trapped inside. The only way to get it out would be to take a shotgun and fire it roughly at the tumor. The wound would heal, because he's Wolverine, and the tumor would be able to get out. But he only healed physical injuries. As for the RFID tag, it wasn't hurting him, so it would most likely just sit there. Also, the exit route would seal after the hypodermic needle was removed, so it wouldn't have anywhere else to go.
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Odd that the wound would heal from the inside first, and then push the bullet out the exit route. In a normal human, I think the first thing to happen would be clotting at the entrance wound.
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Fortunately for WeaponX, the lungs can heal any diminished capacity caused by smoking - a normal human can regain a decent percentage of lung capacity within a month of quitting, so I suspect Wolverine can get his lungs back up within a day or so.
I realized this a few days ago when being bored and trying to see how long I can hold my breath. I officially quit smoking cigarettes on Nov 24. :)
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Odd that the wound would heal from the inside first, and then push the bullet out the exit route. In a normal human, I think the first thing to happen would be clotting at the entrance wound.
True, however, a clot large enough to block off a bullet hole would take quite a while to form. Also, clots are very weak, and the larger density of the bullet would give it more than enough force, when combined with the force of it being pushed out to dislodge the clot.
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But to actually push the bullet out would require some sort of seriously active healing process, would it not? Unless I am mistaken, a person who survives a gunshot wound that does not remove the bullet just has their tissue kinda grow around the fragment and deal with it as a resident.
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I guess he has some sort of nano bots
or something inside of him
along with the metal plates and stuff
stuffed in his body!
why did not his organism dump the iron "claws"
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The claws are fused to his skeleton
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Yes, as we saw in Wolverine #75, when Magneto removes the metal from Logan's skeleton, he still has claws made of bone.
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Actually you all were missing the point of the head shot. Wolverine's entire skeleton is fused with metal, including his skull. The bullet never penetrated his skull.
The impact knocked him down. The slug penetrated the layer of muscle and fat in his forehead and flattened against the skull. When Wolverine got up, gravity took over and the bullet fell out of the very shallow wound. Without the projectile in there, the flesh wound finished healing.
The cop was just lucky the shot didn't richochet.
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Good form, mobrien, good form.
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I realized this a few days ago when being bored and trying to see how long I can hold my breath. I officially quit smoking cigarettes on Nov 24. :)
That's a great choice :thumbup: ... I'll never forget this girl at my school that smokes ... she walked up 2 flights of stairs and was breathing as if she had run 20 miles (she nearly passed out) ... lung capacity is most definitely affected
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Speaking of Big Brother... mobrien, remember when you said on my forum that cameras on the streets is not the same as 1984 because they aren't in people's houses?
Well... (http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=4508858)
HOUSTON Houston's police chief is suggesting putting surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets and even private homes.
BTW, I sent the cheque for the domain name yesterday. I hope it won't take too long...
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That's a great choice :thumbup: ... I'll never forget this girl at my school that smokes ... she walked up 2 flights of stairs and was breathing as if she had run 20 miles (she nearly passed out) ... lung capacity is most definitely affected
Here in the UK more women smoke than men in my age group, I never date women who smoke, I've kissed smokers before - fag breath is just disgusting.
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Speaking of Big Brother... mobrien, remember when you said on my forum that cameras on the streets is not the same as 1984 because they aren't in people's houses?
Well... (http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=4508858)
BTW, I sent the cheque for the domain name yesterday. I hope it won't take too long...
Uhhhh ... I hope that this will only be in downtown Houston ... cuz if it's not ... well, I'm not gonna be to happy with that. Cameras for purely security purposes are ok ... somehow I fail to see the security purpose of a camera in someone's home.
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Houston has such a long list of things that are extremely fucked up about it - there's no use in worrying about this one in particular.
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Houston wants the cameras to make people 'feel' safe. They don't have the budget for real cops and probably don't have the budget for someone to review the tapes, either.
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Police in Houston are a joke. Probably because urban planning in Houston is a joke.
Many of you don't know this, but there are self-contained cities inside Houston. And these little cities have separate fire, police, and municipal government. Most of them are only like 1000 people, and have almost no sales tax base. Bush Sr. lives in one of these little cities. Anyway, the Houston police department has no jurisdiction in these cities. So there are holes in the landscape that Houston cops have to drive around.
That's only the beginning. Houston doesn't have any urban zoning requirements. Which means that you can have a house built between a grocery store and a pawn shop. Most parts of town have gotten together and independently implemented some sort of urban planning, either through deed restrictions or owners groups. In most cities, homes are in separate areas from businesses and industrial complexes, making neighborhood patroling easier. In Houston, any kind of patrol would have to pretty much drive up and down every street - no city can afford that kind of police presence.
There are also really large sections of Houston that are decrepit and scary. I was visiting a Hispanic friend in one of these neighborhoods (only Hispanics and Blacks live there), and we were playing music, me on guitar, and him on drums. One of the neighbors apparently called in a noise complaint. A few minutes later, we were sitting on the porch, having a smoke, when a Houston city cop car drove by, slowed to about 15mph, and shouted out the window "Hey, keep the noise down, we got a complaint". And that was that. They have so much else to worry about. And white people just don't stop in that neighborhood unless they are prepared for some hassle. I only got to go there because my friend was looking out for me, a fact that he was actually required to relate to some of his neighbors.
Anyway, Houston is a scary city, and 1984 cameras aren't going to help. Honestly, additional police resources aren't going to help either. City planning needs to be implemented, and social conditions need to be improved before Houston gets any nicer.
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Speaking of Big Brother... mobrien, remember when you said on my forum that cameras on the streets is not the same as 1984 because they aren't in people's houses?
Well... (http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=4508858)
BTW, I sent the cheque for the domain name yesterday. I hope it won't take too long...
Ok.... that's messed up.
I'm glad to hear about the domain name!!
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that stuff about houston is seriously fucked up. did you ever see the film "a boy and his dog"? about two mutant survivors of world war three... aaaaanyway, that's what this houston stuff reminds me of. they could just declare martial law there, and then the police would be able to just kill all the gansters, the army could get involved, they could send the army in to keep the peace in houston! they could forcibly occupy it, like they do in iraq, and then they could stay there and force the citizens to set up some sort of "democracy". what do you think?
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I think the Houston city planners should be executed by firing squad ... then hire some new ones to fix everything :D
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If they don't already, I think urban planning textbooks ought to have entire chapters dedicated to Houston, entitled "What NOT to do".