Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: Jiggy on 23 May 2006, 14:06
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I came across an interesting article at www.acron5.com (http://www.acron5.com/) , direct link:
http://arcon5.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=251 (http://arcon5.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=251)
Usually people are keen to hate Microsoft but this individual has another view, apparently everyone would be in disarray if Microsoft were to disappear tomorrow :)
Wanted to know what eveyone here thinks about that
- Jiggy
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The article is filled with bullshit.
“Initially, panic in the streets,” says Tony Meadow, president of Bear River Associates, an ISV focusing on mobile applications. “[Microsoft] didn’t establish [its standards] in a nice sort of way, but they are the basis for a lot of things that we use and do with computers.”
Today you can send a Word document to anybody in the world and expect them to be able to open it. According to Meadow, it takes forever for people to agree to these kinds of standards.
Josh Greenbaum, principal at Enterprise Applications Consulting, says, “Downloads for [StarOffice] would bring the Internet to a screeching halt.”
Panic! Riots! The end of the world! You know have to open your .doc files in OpenOffice instead of Office, which displays it the same way. Never mind that, everything would come to a screeching halt if Microsoft Office disappeared. :rolleyes:
“Heterogeneity is a powerful positive,” says John Pescattore, vice president for Internet security at Gartner.
We would also find out how bad the Linux and Apple vendors are at providing patches, compared to what [customers] got used to from Microsoft,” Pescattore says, adding that Microsoft is much better than Apple and Linux at delivering security patches. “If you keep getting into car accidents, you know how to fix dents.”
Yes, providing patches once a month and letting security flaws just lay there for months, is a great way to provide consumers with updates (not).
Linux is way better at updates, because it most package managers actually updates the operating system and most applications installed, which Windows doesn't.
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The author has exagerated greatly lol!
But a world without Microsoft!!!... Where would technology be today?
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The author has exagerated greatly lol!
But a world without Microsoft!!!... Where would technology be today?
Probably better. The world would better off without Microsoft.
I think Apple and/or DR-DOS would be the main desktop and everything on the server side would be UNIX.
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I woudn't like DR-DOS, it's more insecure than Windows and there's no GUI and OS/2 isn't any better than Windows as far as security is concerned. Old desktop OSs are often insecure because it wasn't an issue back then as they weren't networked in anyway.
I agree in part, if MS were to disappear tomorrow there'd be problems at then things would get better - more so than they are now.
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Obviously the author is either full of shit, or has never tried any other OS besides M$ Window$, or both. Linux is really NOT that hard to figure out. Besides there are so many Linux distros that are exact copycats of Window$ that most people would not know the difference. Oh, and if the rioting does occur, a lot of stupid people will die ... and the world would still be a better place without them and without M$.
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If you really think about it, Microsoft has devoted billions and billions of dollars into making sure that once someone tries Windows, they have to stick with Windows. Imagine instead if they had devoted billions into making their system work really well. Regardless of what you may have heard, nobody hates Microsoft because they make the best products. IF Microsoft made something that was insanely greater than anything else, it would be successful without all their backstabbing and FUD and attorney wars.
I think that the overnight loss of Microsoft and the sudden disappearance of all their products would be a great boost for the world economy. Suddenly, every member of this forum would be a highly trained computer professional, making shitloads of money helping their friends, neighbors, and any other willing clients set up computer systems. Punk teenagers around the globe would be buying Porsches and lakeside condos with all the money they made writing simple bash scripts for accounting firms. It would be a good life for awhile.
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“Initially, panic in the streets,” says Tony Meadow, president of Bear River Associates, an ISV focusing on mobile applications.
...and instantly, the entire article ceases to be worth reading.
People wouldn't "panic in the streets" about anything technology. I mean, heck, people in the USA don't panic in the streets for anything.
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"We would also find out how bad the Linux and Apple vendors are at providing patches, compared to what [customers] got used to from Microsoft,
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???WTF??? :fu:
This guy is either joking or he is a complete idiot.
I vote for idiot. Dunno about Apple, but Open Source has always been better at releasing patches than MS. That was just a stupid statement.
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They release more patches because the software is utter shite. If you don't crash your car, theres no dents to fix.
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Perhapps ignorant might be a better word than idiot, he probably doesn't know any better, for a start he doesn't know that Star Office isn't free, he got it confused with OpenOffice.
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"Initially, panic in the streets", says Tony Meadow, president of Bear River Associates, an ISV focusing on mobile applications. "[Microsoft] didn't establish [its standards] in a nice sort of way, but they are the basis for a lot of things that we use and do with computers.
Seeing that I haven't used anything other than Linux and OS X for the last five years, I doubt that I'd even notice unless I read all about it at Slashdot or here. :D
Still, wouldn't make any difference since some other cut-throat corporation would quickly fill the void, and we'd be right back where we started. We'd have to change the name of the website: [Whatever]suck. :D
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Or someone could set up a bittorrent tracker and it wouldn't come to a screeching halt ... (by the way only the servers hosting OpenOffice may experience this problem ... the rest of the internet (pr0n) will be just fine)
However, this does remind me of something from one of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books (perhaps the 2nd), called the 'shoe event horizon'. There came to be a time in a certain economy where it no longer made economic sense to make anything but shoes. I suppose it is conceivable that this guy thinks that we will reach some kind of 'Office horizon', where the only purpose of the web will be as a distribution network for office suites. At that point, all the pr0n dealers will switch to enterprise office solutions, simply because there is no market for anything else. Once the 'Office horizon' has passed, then the pr0n dealers can get back to their normal business of selling 45 year old strippers "barely legal teens" (or selling 19 year old skanks as "horny housewives").
Whatever.
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In terms of operating systems I doubt anyone new could enter the market (as in build a new operating system), its just too expensive. Linux would take off, Solaris would resurrect in the server market and Apple would just explode.
AMD would be screwed. Intel would be just fine with Apple.
Don't think I can agree with you on either point.
First of all, building an operating system is NOT all that complicated. There have been many many of them, even not including BSD and Linux variants. Why haven't they made a deep penetration? Because MS has a freaking monopoly and has used very questionable tactics to squash them. Where would OS/2 or BeOS be now if MS were gone? What about Atheos/Syllable, which is not Linux or BSD. DrDOS/GEM? GNU/HURD?
Second, if there was no MS, there are plenty of OS to fill the void which can run on Intel and AMD, so AMD would not be "screwed" unless they couldn't create products that could compete with Intel.
Apple isn't the only other game in town, and would not become the next MS if MS were gone, despite the fact that (IMHO) that's Steve Jobs' fantasy.
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I was thinking about this for a while
The open comunity should REALY
make theyr minds up
and make all new apps
OS independent + Hardware independent!
maby some kind of shell that will work on every thing
you jsut swap the shell on the OS and it is there... your shell
no MS no Linux
no Linux/Bsd/Mac fights
just SHell and different types of them
every thing should be standart compilant !
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Jack, I really don't understand what you are talking about here.
Hardware and OS independence:
./configure
make
make install
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I think those guy that wrote that article are being paid or something to say such bad things about open-source software and Apple. I think it would be more like people celebrating in the streets if Microsoft dissapears. Most programs run pretty well with Wine on Linux or Darwine on Intel Macs. Open Office and other alternatives have no trouble with Microsoft office files.
Most people can't tell the difference between Windows and any other OS. As long as the OS is easy enough to use, they'll be fine. It's only really the computer geeks who are going to care, and still, they would have no trouble learning how to use a new OS. Didn't take me long to learn to use Linux and it wasn't any harder to learn to use Mac OS.
I actually think that computers would be much more advanced if Microsoft didn't exist and I think it's Microsoft holding Linux and Mac OS back by making their Operating Systems too basic and Apple and Linux staying with the same out of date style for 'ease of use'. I think Apple has taken this one step further as Mac OS is pretty advanced anyway but I think Linux would blow it away.
Overall, I think that whoever made that article is totally biased and has probably never used any other OS. It's morons like them who shouldn't have computers.