Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Vanessa on 25 May 2006, 07:50
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Discover how radio frequencies is used by unknown forces to hack your computer with or without any modem or ethernet card installed. It doesn't matter if your computer is on or not.
" ...when amplified, microwave vibrations can penetrate and alter even *unplugged* machines; they can also be deployed with a very precise focus."
- Nancy C. Much Ross
Read more at:
http://www.tagmeme.com/exmachina/archives/cat_security.html (http://www.tagmeme.com/exmachina/archives/cat_security.html)
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Sounds interesting but I don't know what this has got to do with Microsoft operating systems, could a mod please move this to the lounge.
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Wow, this is probably the most bizarre conspiracy theory ever :D
People like this should be put locked away.
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Seems to me that they're confusing "routing equipment" with "computers" to the extent that any network can be pentrated regardless of whether the end-point systems are on or not. My first big hint in that direction was the mention of KNOPPIX - which, you'll note, is commonly used in makeshift "software" routers. Of course, if a system is running off of a specifically malformed KNOPPIX disc, it can be compromised regardless of whether Windows is on or off, but that hardly justifies the logic as the PC itself being off.
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It sounds like BS to me ... microwaves would fry your computer not hack it :D
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This person is a complete idiot. You can't do anything on a PC without running some sort of code, and running that code requires something capable of running it, for instance, the various BIOS chips, or the processor. None of these will function without electrical power. Finally, most systems don't have any antenna for anything other than Wi-Fi, and I'd like to see how the government can make your computer pick up a signal without an antenna.
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Fucking hell anything can act as an antenna, try taking the magnetron out of your microwave, connecting it up and aiming it at your computer whilst it's still running andn see what happens, answer: it'll fuck up as the 2.45GHz microwave induces 2.45GHz currents in the PCB tracks of the motherboard.
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True, but the magnetron is extremely close. There aren't any major airbases where I live, so they would have to have one hell of a magnetron to mess with my PC.
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Although it's possible to send and receive files thru radio (actually done that), you'd need special hardware and software.
This guy is simply nuts. He thinks DirectX graphics aren't from Microsoft, and hackers put effort in placing a few pictures on his computer, that Debian is spying on us, that a NX connection wizard is meant to hack other computers, etc.
It's the kind of person that doesn't receive sun light on a daily basis, lives in some shitty apartment in a major city, and in general doesn't have anything other to do than cooking up conspiracy theories.
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I started this thread cause I just had to know what others thought about it and if it's actually even possible to do those stuff she described has happened to her computers.
I mean Refalm; you say it's possible to send and receive files thru radio and that you've actually done that...how? I'm not asking you to describe it fully detailed but breifly or maybe give me some links about it?
I'd really appriciate it.
(BTW I laughed when you said that stuff about sunlight...you know the dude is a lady right? She calls herself Nancy on the website.)
Did you all catch the thing about the computer beeing unplugged and still hacked? How is that possible? She says it was bought new and still in the box and when she plugged it in for the first time it was already hacked...?
I admit it sounds unlikely and more like a conspiracy theory but can't there be any truth behind her statements? I mean we have technology to control a satellite thousands of miles away in space from earth, so how can't it be possible to control a computer on earth?
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I started this thread cause I just had to know what others thought about it and if it's actually even possible to do those stuff she described has happened to her computers.
Put simply, no. It is not possible to hack a computer with radio waves or any kind of waves. It is possible to induce a current into just about anything conductive you'd care to name but not for said object (in this case a computer) to transmit any sort of signal. Something like that would be far more useful for frying electronics from a distance.
Did you all catch the thing about the computer beeing unplugged and still hacked? How is that possible? She says it was bought new and still in the box and when she plugged it in for the first time it was already hacked...?
Unless someone had prior access to her computer and knew she was going to buy it it's not.
I admit it sounds unlikely and more like a conspiracy theory but can't there be any truth behind her statements? I mean we have technology to control a satellite thousands of miles away in space from earth, so how can't it be possible to control a computer on earth?
Satellites that are designed to be controlled and have recevers and transmitters. And we can control a computer on Earth from a distance. Just not while it's turned off and not connected to a network.
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Did you all catch the thing about the computer beeing unplugged and still hacked? How is that possible? She says it was bought new and still in the box and when she plugged it in for the first time it was already hacked...?
If it had Window$ and/or a root kit installed on it then yes it could have been considered already hacked.
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I mean Refalm; you say it's possible to send and receive files thru radio and that you've actually done that...how? I'm not asking you to describe it fully detailed but breifly or maybe give me some links about it?
I'd really appriciate it.
Well, have you ever listened to the noise you get when you're using a dial-up connection?
What if you'd send that noise over amateur radio to another computer?
I was 14 when I was doing this, so I'm not entirely sure what software I used.
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I re-read the Wikipedia article on modems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem) to find the brand-name behind the CAT acoustically-coupled modem. All-in-all, it was a rather enlightening read. Here is my response to the replies thus far.
Aloone:
Isn't TexMex actually right on track by implying that the magnetron would sooner degauss your PC's data drives than compromise electronic security measures?
Refalm:
Although it's possible to send and receive files thru radio (actually done that), you'd need special hardware and software.
Yes, it's somewhere along the same line of thought as acoustic modulation.
This guy is simply nuts. He thinks DirectX graphics aren't from Microsoft, and hackers put effort in placing a few pictures on his computer, that Debian is spying on us, that a NX connection wizard is meant to hack other computers, etc.
I think that this guy [sic] just basically misunderstands the concepts involved in operating a system, let alone compromising one. As for her possible neuroses, I dare not delve into those without a personal encounter.
It's the kind of person that doesn't receive sun light on a daily basis, lives in some shitty apartment in a major city, and in general doesn't have anything other to do than cooking up conspiracy theories.
...or the kind of person that saw The Net, Sneakers, Hackers, The Matrix (and so on) a few too many times and found her sense of reason compromised by a terror stirred by a profound misunderstanding of technologies as they exist today.
Vanessa:
I would take what the author says with about a truckload of salt. For the most part, Dark_Me has addressed the various flaws with her rationale. However...
Dark_Me:
Unless someone had prior access to her computer and knew she was going to buy it it's not.
A number of unpatched systems leave worldwide retailers everyday. It's not wholly improbable that she hit a bad sequence of events, culminating in her system being one of the many unpatched Windows systems compromised mere seconds from being connected to a public network. Other than that, though, I can't help but feel that she has direly misunderstood the purpose of half the software out there.
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Also, I remember something very interesting from when I was 11.
Remember how Commodore 64's used tapes to load programs?
Well, I had an amateur radio transmitter (broken now) and I transmitted Donkey Kong, Jumpman, Tobbler, etc. over FM (yes, right in between Veronica FM and Radio 538 :)), so that my friends could record it on tape and play it on their Commodore 64's.
Basically, it's the same concept as sending data thru amateur radio.
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Thank you all for the replies (not saying they should stop) so far.
Refalm; If you were 11 and 14 when you did those things, then one can't help wondering what you are doing now?
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Thank you all for the replies (not saying they should stop) so far.
Refalm; If you were 11 and 14 when you did those things, then one can't help wondering what you are doing now?
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If you have to ask, you may already be this (http://dognoodle99.cjb.net/bsod/classroom-9x-bsod-1.jpg) owned.
(http://dognoodle99.cjb.net/tumor.gif)
:D
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Refalm; If you were 11 and 14 when you did those things, then one can't help wondering what you are doing now?
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Hacking into computers with microwaves!
Oh shit! I wasn't suppost to tell you that. You'll be getting a vist from some men in suits soon. Please do what they say. It's nicer that way.
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Orethrius and Dark_Me:
It was a retorical question... :thumbup:
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I bet he is installing back doors in NSA s computers from the street with a
microwave-gun :) :D
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A lightning bolt direct hit can do some serious alteration :D
Also a shotgun works well for reformatting your existing partitions to render you puter inop...