Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: cahult on 23 July 2006, 03:22
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http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/
This is for all of you who still like to believe that Israel is one of the good guys. Did you know that Israel
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Hehe ... cool, so now the opressed become the opressors ...
Oh, and as I said in one of my other posts ... this has everything to do with the government, and very little to do with the people. Somehow I think there has been a great schizm between the goverment and the people for quite some time now, not only in Israel but everywhere ... oh well the people deserve it for not doing anything about it.
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What I find sadly ironic is how so many Zionists call people anti-semites for criticising Israel (as if that somehow makes you a racist), when they support and apologise for an apartheid regime that has been acting like Nazis towards the Palestinians.
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Don't the US planes still paint markers under the cockpit for destroyed enemy fighters?
Is there a difference?
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(http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/img/editorial/july06/yes.jpg)
(http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/img/editorial/july06/no.jpg)
From: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=699486
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yes, some Americans still "tick" for kills, particularly aircraft...It's still required for Ace status. So? There's nothing wrong with having pride in your skill and proficiency in your job...even when the undertone is as morbid as this.
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yes, some Americans still "tick" for kills, particularly aircraft...It's still required for Ace status.
That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming.
So? There's nothing wrong with having pride in your skill and proficiency in your job...even when the undertone is as morbid as this.
No don't get me wrong. That wasn't my point. The lead on this thread was Israeli tanks "ticked" for kills and the inference that that was somehow horrible because the last country that did that for a tank force was Nazi Germany.
My point is that this is still a common military practice and there's nothing unique or nazilike about the Israeli tank forces doing it. In fact, I'm quite suprised that Israeli tank forces are the only tank forces in the world that do this. I thought for sure the Abrams crews would be doing it.
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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/img/editorial/july06/yes.jpg
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/img/editorial/july06/no.jpg
From: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=699486
If there was ever a better use for the term "PWNED!!!11one", I'm not sure what it is. :D
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It's easy for little douchebags in their safe residence to demonize all military campaigns. :)
It's not that simple.
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It's easy for little douchebags in their safe residence to demonize all military campaigns. :)
It's not that simple.
I agree.
Scary images though. :nothappy:
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Yeah, but the planet has been in relative peace for almost 50 years. WWII was the last real war where thousands died weekly. Every other "war" is mostly soldiers doing peacekeeping.
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Relative to what though? There has been nonstop fighting since WWII. If by peace you mean war then I completely agree.
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There has been non-stop fighting since the beginning of time :)
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Yeah, so where is this peace then?
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And dammit, where's this free love?
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sorry worker201...u missed the 60's with me...we only got disco, bad poyester and bell bottoms....oh yeah...and big hair.
As far as ticking goes, there are many forces which still do it. My best friend from Highschool has spent about 18 years in a Tank (The Abrhams) and has participated in several campaigns. Every one of his tanks were "ticked".
It mostly (for USA Forces n e way) depends on the command and whether they allow "unauthorized modifications" to your vehicle/equipment. It is usually much more lax during combat than peace though.
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Well, we should probably just let Israel take over the whole Middle East. Make the whole place a lot safer and nicer.
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As far as ticking goes, there are many forces which still do it. My best friend from Highschool has spent about 18 years in a Tank (The Abrhams) and has participated in several campaigns. Every one of his tanks were "ticked".
Well, that is what I would have expected.
So the lead into this thread is, to put it politely, wrong, unless it's about the tick mark being uniquely a ring for Israeli tank forces. In which case, who really cares?
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ticking doesn't matter. killing does.
these bastards who prefer to kill and hate rather than talk, agree and move on are the past. our species should have evolved past that by now.
we must, as a species, adapt or die, this is the simple truth.
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being on the wrong end of a tanks main gun is a good way to slow that particular evolution...
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http://www.counterpunch.org/
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being on the wrong end of a tanks main gun is a good way to slow that particular evolution...
sadly, natural selection favours those who survive. if people survive by killing other people, then the killers will be the progenitors of future generations. this is why the people need to rule themselves to stop the bastards from taking over.
of course this may have already happened long ago and now it's too late
or it may never be too late to stop what should never have started in the first place.
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sadly, natural selection favours those who survive. if people survive by killing other people, then the killers will be the progenitors of future generations. this is why the people need to rule themselves to stop the bastards from taking over.
of course this may have already happened long ago and now it's too late
or it may never be too late to stop what should never have started in the first place.
That's very well put (assuming there is a gene for excessively violent behavior often leading to murder ... which I'm sure there is). Unfortunately if you kill the killers don't you become one ? Or we should imprison the killers instead ? I think it's never to late to change everything to the way it's supposed to be ... the problem is getting enough power to do so, and more importantly not being corrupted by the power which you obtain. After all, you may acquire power in order to do good, but the more power you acquire the closer you get to scrapping your original plan and doing anything you want with the power (often bad news for the rest of the world) I hate this damn planet ... there are no solutions to be found here
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i see what you mean. i was rereading my issues of JSA recently (yes i am an avid comic book collector, anybody who has a problem with that, get over it), and this was one of the issues raised, essentially it was "if we don't adhere to a higher moral code, then who will?".
i personally don't see much wrong with killing rapists and torturers, and i don't see much wrong with assassinating corrupt leaders either, however these are my personal opinions, and are 100% against my actual ideology. Ideally i would never advocate those things, i would only advocate rehabilitation, at any cost. This does not mean imprisonment, but it does mean society taking a very firm control over its antisocial elements. this is difficult. it means actually engaging with the murderers and rapists, talking to them and with them. it means, essentially, forcing them to be social members of society, and keeping on forcing them until they comply. Being a rapist or a murderer is something that makes you forfeit your right to freedom of movement, so i see nothing wrong in forceably rehabilitating these people at any emotional cost to them.
i see no other real options. imprisonment, execution and transportation have all been tried and have been shown in my opinion to make little to no difference in the larger scale.
what i am really advocating is that society takes responsibility for itself, instead of the people in it complaining about each other until they all start killing and looting and raping each other.
here are some more words from me that might help explain my official position on the whole society problem: here we go (http://polytheism.org.uk/wordpress/?page_id=9) and here's another one (http://polytheism.org.uk/wordpress/?page_id=14).