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Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: mobrien_12 on 25 July 2006, 03:40
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Holy smokes... AMD is buying out ATI.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~110899,00.html
http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/07/24/1148238.shtml
One poster on slashdot a few days ago when rumors were flying said they could merge their letters together and call themselves DAMIT.
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Quite a surprise..
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Canada is losing one of its major tech companies :(
Not that Canada will actually exist in a few years.
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Well that makes up my mind ... Intel all the way ...
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Well that makes up my mind ... Intel all the way ...
God, not every merge is teh 1337 3vil. At least wait until they screw something up and refuse to fix it to jump on them. :p
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God, not every merge is teh 1337 3vil. At least wait until they screw something up and refuse to fix it to jump on them. :p
Nah, Tex is an Intel+nVidia fanboi, he has trouble admitting the AMD and ATi are making better and better products;):D:D:D:p
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Intel + nVidia FTW. Especially now that Intel's latest chips, the Conroe series, are beating the Athlon 64 in everyone's benchmarks. It was never "AMD > Intel", but rather, "Intel Marketing vs. Intel Engineering".
As for the merger, I have no idea how the two could possibly complement each other. They make far different products.
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So Kev, not to be picky here, but you've tested the OTS models rather than relying on hand-pickeds? Just curious, because I hear Conroes don't lead by as wide a margin under normal distribution circumstances.
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Nah, Tex is an Intel+nVidia fanboi, he has trouble admitting the AMD and ATi are making better and better products;):D:D:D:p
I wouldn't be a fanboy if they made decent products ... but both their products (ATI + AMD) are pretty crappy from what I've seen so far (I know for sure ATI is crap ... AMD I'm not so sure about, but if it's AMD+ATI nothing good can come from it)
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I wouldn't be a fanboy if they made decent products ... but both their products (ATI + AMD) are pretty crappy from what I've seen so far (I know for sure ATI is crap ... AMD I'm not so sure about, but if it's AMD+ATI nothing good can come from it)
AMD has some of the most advanced fabs in the world, much mroe advanced then intel's fabs, that is fact. ATi makes awsome products, the hardware is there and reliable, they just need to get up to snuf on their drivers
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Not surprising... however this will bring AMD down even more. Even though AMD may be the better buy at the moment, it's not the cheaper buy. And what Intel has coming out next will blow everybody away. Nvidia hasn't been worth going with since like 2004 (AXP Time)
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Not surprising... however this will bring AMD down even more. Even though AMD may be the better buy at the moment, it's not the cheaper buy. And what Intel has coming out next will blow everybody away. Nvidia hasn't been worth going with since like 2004 (AXP Time)
AMD has 65nm+SiGe planned for Decmeber, so that should be awsome clocks. and K8L mid 2007..but yes Conroe is a monstrer
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Nvidia hasn't been worth going with since like 2004 (AXP Time)
I meant AMD, not Nvidia haha. nV > ATI... but ATI is still ahead in some things like power (not power as in 'performance' though).
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ATi's chips use MORE power than nVidia's, at least in the high end, nVidia's strat w/G7x was to counter R5xx with smaller dies and less heat (they run on less trannies, and make less heat, why do you think 7900GT uses the 6600GT cooler?)
as far as CPU's go, Conroe is a beast, and Intel has a quad core up their sleeves for ~Q1 2k7, at least they're supposed to, i've seen a few scarce screens of the Kentsfield quad-core, also, Intel's ES samples are usually fairly true to life reps of their chips, at least Cedar Mill and Presler where, OC'ing wise, the ES usually wins all the way, not because it's "hand picked primo silicon" but because it's a fully unlocked chip
imo ATI and AMD are fairly well suited to each other, both are used to being the #2 part, and being late on various features, or late on various claims (not saying Intel and nVidia (or 3dfx, or anyone else) has never missed a deadline or goofed on a part (Willamette, NV30, etc) but consider that Intel was the top dog in the 1990's, because AMD had nothing decent, K7 was designed by the people who brought us the Alpha (uses the EV6 bus and some other features) and K8 was built off of it, and ATI's products were terrible driver wise until 2002 (not saying they got much better post 2002, but they aren't XGI anymore))
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imo ATI and AMD are fairly well suited to each other, both are used to being the #2 part, and being late on various features, or late on various claims (not saying Intel and nVidia (or 3dfx, or anyone else) has never missed a deadline or goofed on a part (Willamette, NV30, etc) but consider that Intel was the top dog in the 1990's, because AMD had nothing decent, K7 was designed by the people who brought us the Alpha (uses the EV6 bus and some other features) and K8 was built off of it, and ATI's products were terrible driver wise until 2002 (not saying they got much better post 2002, but they aren't XGI anymore))
For anyone who couldn't make sense of that paragraph, I parsed it:
imo ATI and AMD are fairly well suited to each other, both are used to being the #2 part, and being late on various features, or late on various claims
(not saying Intel and nVidia...
(or 3dfx, or anyone else)
...has never missed a deadline or goofed on a part...
(Willamette, NV30, etc)
...but consider that Intel was the top dog in the 1990's, because AMD had nothing decent, K7 was designed by the people who brought us the Alpha...
(uses the EV6 bus and some other features)
...and K8 was built off of it, and ATI's products were terrible driver wise until 2002
(not saying they got much better post 2002, but they aren't XGI anymore)
):thumbup:
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what is the message for me to take home? even more line breaks?
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For anyone who couldn't make sense of that paragraph, I parsed it:
imo ATI and AMD are fairly well suited to each other, both are used to being the #2 part, and being late on various features, or late on various claims
(not saying Intel and nVidia...
(or 3dfx, or anyone else)
...has never missed a deadline or goofed on a part...
(Willamette, NV30, etc)
...but consider that Intel was the top dog in the 1990's, because AMD had nothing decent, K7 was designed by the people who brought us the Alpha...
(uses the EV6 bus and some other features)
...and K8 was built off of it, and ATI's products were terrible driver wise until 2002
(not saying they got much better post 2002, but they aren't XGI anymore)
):thumbup:
you sir, are a funny man. ;)
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For anyone who couldn't make sense of that paragraph, I parsed it:
imo ATI and AMD are fairly well suited to each other, both are used to being the #2 part, and being late on various features, or late on various claims
(not saying Intel and nVidia...
(or 3dfx, or anyone else)
...has never missed a deadline or goofed on a part...
(Willamette, NV30, etc)
...but consider that Intel was the top dog in the 1990's, because AMD had nothing decent, K7 was designed by the people who brought us the Alpha...
(uses the EV6 bus and some other features)
...and K8 was built off of it, and ATI's products were terrible driver wise until 2002
(not saying they got much better post 2002, but they aren't XGI anymore)
)
you sir, are a funny man. ;)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA