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Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: hm_murdock on 27 October 2002, 07:30
because MS pumped big bucks into making it all perty. too bad they didn't spend some time on revamping the balmy UI.

it still has brain dead UI concepts, like multiple document windows, reliance on button bars and right-click menus to do everything, poor layout, no continuity between apps, and so on.

lookin' good ain't bein' good.
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: jtpenrod on 27 October 2002, 10:03
And don't forget that all the pretty pictures, all the really "cool" visual effects, all burn up CPU resources for basically doing nothing.
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Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: Calum on 27 October 2002, 10:50
well i think it looks shit, so where does that leave it?
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: lazygamer on 27 October 2002, 17:47
Wind0ze XP is shit(but probably better then W98). But I don't got a choice. Today XPoo shitted on me. It crashed for no apparent reason. My system would not boot past the CD drive detection. The problem would not correct itself, even after turning it off. 50 minutes later the problem corrected itself, but it still woulden't boot. Bios claimed that my CPU wasn't working or had been set wrong. Hmmm CPUsoft menu says it's set as a 266mhz chip?! Set it back to 433 and everything works fine again.

In addition, I had a pop up appear out of nowwhere while doing something non surfing related(with no broswers open). Wheeee, XP rulez. I wonder if ad-aware will remove such a thing? It seemed to be a one time occurence so far.
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: hm_murdock on 28 October 2002, 08:21
I can't say anything against eye-candy. I run Mac OS X which is king of eye-candy.

But, once again, the difference is that Apple uses the eye-candy to help the user. The genie effect on minimizing shows you where the window goes. The zooming dock allows you to have a 128x128 pixel target no matter how small you have the Dock set.

XP uses shadows badly, plus the shadows are ugly and badly rendered. Why do menus and the cursor have shadows... but windows don't? MS never pays attention to details, and uses eye-candy for stupid shit.
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: psyjax on 28 October 2002, 21:12
OSX looks better than anything I have ever used.

Especialy when using AlumiteX.

That's just my opinion.

And yes, it is incredibly well designed to boot. Apple has spent more years designing and refining the user interface which M$ tried to copy in all of the two hours they spent thinking up the UI for windows.
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: Calum on 28 October 2002, 13:35
i think GNOME 2 looks great and rivals MacOS (can't talk about X, never used it) for style, however GNOME 2 is unreliable, at least on my machine, so sadly, me and my other half have had to revert to KDE, which sucks because konqueror is almost as duff looking as windows, and i really prefer nautilus. If only it wouldn't keep dying...
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: Calum on 28 October 2002, 14:46
em, quite...

well i said GNOME 2 was buggy on my machine, and i don't think that you can really dispute that unless you tried it on my machine (which i suspect you haven't). GNOME 1.4 was worse, to the point of non-usability on my computer, and GNOME 2 is a huge improvement.
I prefer it actually to KDE hands down, but it doesn't work properly for me, so there you go.
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: Master of Reality on 28 October 2002, 20:25
KDE with mosfets liquid theme is the best
My screenshot (http://chatroom.fuckmicrosoft.com:8000/images/screenshot.png)
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: Calum on 28 October 2002, 21:53
it's nice... where can i get stuff to pretty up KDE? also, in particular, where can i get stuff to pretty up konqueror? it really is the windows explorer of linux...
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: hm_murdock on 28 October 2002, 23:51
Boogala.
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: flap on 29 October 2002, 01:13
http://kde-look.org/ (http://kde-look.org/)
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: emh on 29 October 2002, 03:42
quote:

i think GNOME 2 looks great and rivals MacOS (can't talk about X, never used it) for style, however GNOME 2 is unreliable, at least on my machine, so sadly, me and my other half have had to revert to KDE, which sucks because konqueror is almost as duff looking as windows, and i really prefer nautilus. If only it wouldn't keep dying...


You can use Nautilus in KDE if you wanted to.
Title: windows xp looks better than other OSes... but works badly
Post by: hm_murdock on 29 October 2002, 06:17
didn't Konquorer used to be KFM?