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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: HighLamb on 7 October 2002, 15:06
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Just nosey, going there and take a look. Got this:
"BBS is curently down due to technical problems.
I hope to have it available again soon.
Thanks!
Arie Slob,
WindowsBBS.com"
WindowsBBS (http://www.windowsbbs.com)
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Yes, down with the bastards. But they aren't too pro-Windows, and we are anti-M$.
They run Apache on Linux, and the site still works, so it isn't the fault of the server! :D
[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]
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if their server is down then there should just be a connection failed error...
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It says they moved to a new server near the bottom now.
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well i could get no info on windowsbbs.com from netcraft, however when i visit the site they are up, so i read the bottom of the page and they are owned by windows-help.net, which shows up as being apache on linux (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=windows-help.NET&submit=Examine), which is odd since last time i looked i got full version info about the windows BS servers...
AH yes... here we go, (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=on&mode_w=on&site=http%3A%2F%2Fwindowsbbs.com%2F&submit=Examine) they are running apache with frontpage extensions on linux, meaning their shitty site was probably made in frontpage!!! (http://tongue.gif)
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This site isn't in much better shape than WindowsBBS was. This site is running slower than molasses. First, WindowsBBS(being run on Linux/Apache) goes down and now this place(also being run on Linux/Apache) is running slow like it is almost ready to go down. That is enough to make an admin want to put alot of faith into Linux/Apache for a server...LoL :rolleyes:
ihateapple.com being run on Microsoft IIS hardley ever goes down(the only time it does is when they are upgrading the server) and it is always speedy. ;P Planethardware and thier forums are also run on Microsoft IIS and it never goes down and it is always speedy also. Come to think of it, all of the forums on forumplanet are on MS IIS because forumplanet(the server that hosts all of the gamespy forums) is on MS IIS.
[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]
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Zombie9920: First, WindowsBBS(being run on Linux/Apache) goes down and now this place(also being run on Linux/Apache)
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Netcraft What's That Site Running Results: The site ms-eradication.org is running Apache mod_gzip/1.3.17.2a on FreeBSD.
FreeBSD users include Affinity, Orange, Yahoo! and The Apache Project
Apache is also being used by Rackspace, Dialtone Internet, VA Software and Alignment Software
Ever saw Yahoo! "going down"?
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Originally posted by Zombie9920:
This site isn't in much better shape than WindowsBBS was. This site is running slower than molasses. First, WindowsBBS(being run on Linux/Apache) goes down and now this place(also being run on Linux/Apache) is running slow like it is almost ready to go down. That is enough to make an admin want to put alot of faith into Linux/Apache for a server...LoL :rolleyes:
Hmmm, guess Zombie must think that Linux and FreeBSD are the same OS. Yep, if it's not Windows it's gotta be Linux. And I would know better than most about the uptime and speed of this site since I spend every waking hour here right Zombie? All I can say is it's *always* been very fast and available for me. Maybe you should check your network connection out and get off that MSN crap.
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Ohh! Horrible!
Oh wait. Windows BBS?
I honestly don't seem to care.
Zombie9920: server OS isn't the whole story to uptime - only a small part actually. Webmasters and bandwith (and hardware) are far more important. OS and software is more of a bonus on top of that (or rather a handicap). And Apache isn't that bad at providing the bonus/minimalizing the penalty.
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Originally posted by void main:
Hmmm, guess Zombie must think that Linux and FreeBSD are the same OS. Yep, if it's not Windows it's gotta be Linux. And I would know better than most about the uptime and speed of this site since I spend every waking hour here right Zombie? All I can say is it's *always* been very fast and available for me. Maybe you should check your network connection out and get off that MSN crap.
This site is on FreeBSD now? When I first registered here it was on Linux. Blah, I know that BSD isn't Linux. And yes this site is running dog slow right now(no I'm not on a MSN ISP). I know it is this site and not my ISP because every other site I've went to today is running nice and fast. I think that the Webmasters machine is having hiccups or something. ;P
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Hmmm...I believe the server is located in CA, maybe they got some tremors going on over there ;)
Then again, I don't notice this site being slow, maybe your connection is being routed via a slow server?
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This place is picking up a little more speed now, but it is still being slower than usual for me today. Uggh, I hate having to wait on shit to load.
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This is fucking ridiculous.
MES Forums on Apache
(http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/waltw/mes.jpg)
IHA Forums on IIS
(http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/waltw/iha.jpg)
PHF Forums on IIS
(http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/waltw/phf.jpg)
My vote goes to IIS for speed and reliability. ;P
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I don't know, I am getting FAST response times. There have been times in the past where I couldn't connect directly from my home, but I would log in to one of my servers out on the internet and could get right in (bounce off a proxy running on my server). So in every case it was a local routing problem at my Cable provider whenever I have had trouble. Have you tried running a traceroute (tracert in Winblows) and see if the problem lies somewhere between you and the server?
And what's bad about MES running on Apache? Apache always has and always will kick the shit out of IIS.
[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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i was just reading through these posts thought that i would add my piece. The mes loaded fast for me.
please forgive the windows desktop, i am at work right now. :(
edit: fuck the large image, i will just link to it.
MES Load Time (http://www.sederquistavery.com/roy01/loadtime.jpg)
[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: xyle_one ]
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Ooohh look at Zombie's "Mad l33t M$ Paint Skillz"
He's BSing...or he needs to get a new ISP :D
(http://www.akgames.net:8000/Downloads/Files/Personal/Loadtime.bmp)
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Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/B0b:
Ooohh look at Zombie's "Mad l33t M$ Paint Skillz"
He's BSing...or he needs to get a new ISP :D
(http://www.akgames.net:8000/Downloads/Files/Personal/Loadtime.bmp)
For 1, I don't use MS Paint for anything..I prefer PaintShop Pro and Photoshop 7(I bet you wish you could use PS 7 or PSP in Linux). ;P
I'm not BSing at all, this site is really running like shit for me today. I just love how fucktards like you think that people lie about problems they are having. :rolleyes:
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Zombie, do a fucking traceroute already. There is nothing wrong with the site. If there was, the rest of us would see it. It's been super responsive as always here which would not be possible if the problem was on the server end.
You will find that there is either a network problem between you and MES or heaven forbid, a problem with your WinXP.
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well, i am a fucktard i suppose. check out how long it took me to load microsofts page.
Microsoft Load Time (http://www.sederquistavery.com/roy01/funloadtime.jpg)
anyone can have "Mad l33t M$ Paint Skillz"..
(http://smile.gif) (http://smile.gif)
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Well, I just enabled a proxy in IE and MES is running fine on the proxy. I guess I have the problem solved for now.
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I've always wondered if my provider's network problems that periodically crop up are not planted network problems. I've always been able to get to the site through my proxy out on the net when I couldn't get directly to it. The cofounder of Microsoft is owner of my Cable company so I wouldn't put it past him that the routing problems to MES would be planted problems.
[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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Who knows. Maybe it is a conspiracy. ;P
I'm not complaining about having to use a proxy because now I have an anonymous IP addy. :D
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zombie7843784, i was actually going to answer you but you have said so many wrong things it would be impossible to really start anywhere! this site has been hosted using BSD all this year! no, i won't start.
You should get a medal for the number of wrong things you say seemingly innocently all on one page!
amazing....
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Originally posted by Zombie9920:
I'm not complaining about having to use a proxy because now I have an anonymous IP addy. :D
All the easier to block you and all your XPee friends in one swoop. (http://smile.gif)
[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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Originally posted by Zombie9920:
For 1, I don't use MS Paint for anything..I prefer PaintShop Pro and Photoshop 7(I bet you wish you could use PS 7 or PSP in Linux). ;P
I'm not BSing at all, this site is really running like shit for me today. I just love how fucktards like you think that people lie about problems they are having. :rolleyes:
Ahhh...the man is sane!
Yeah, sounds like traffic or bad path from your end :(
Oh well, all fixed now!
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As for windowsbbs.com I can't believe how uneducated the people on that forum are. I mean, they are really ignorant. Guess thats what can be expected from M$ lackeys.
Zombie, if your going to compare windows to Linux as a desktop OS for average computer users, there is at least a semblence of truth behind your arguemants in favor of windows. windows is more of a 'Big Brother' OS that Linux. Thats True. But saying that ISS on windows even comes close to Apache on Linux as far as either speed or reliability goes, is a blatant misrepresentation of reality.
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1.275 seconds for me.
Keep in mind that i got cable, but I have MAAAJOR connectivity problems all the time. And the faktards at att cant find the reason.
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loads in 1.772 for me, but i'm in Australia so you would expect it to be a bit slower than it is for people closer to the server.
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How can wind0ze BBS be questioning it's alliegance(windows) and full of zombies at the same time? Why do they use Linux to run it, yet have the zombie outlook(banning all mentions of Linux), instead of having an intelligent zombie3243549 style debate?
I refuse to take a peek at that site, to me it seems like a waste of time. :D
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Originally posted by Zombie9920:
This is fucking ridiculous.
MES Forums on Apache
(http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/waltw/mes.jpg)
IHA Forums on IIS
(http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/waltw/iha.jpg)
PHF Forums on IIS
(http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/waltw/phf.jpg)
My vote goes to IIS for speed and reliability. ;P
Out of curiosity, do you use MSN?
If so, that explains everything. Put two and two together. Dipshit.
And these forums are ALWAYS fast for me, without exception.
[ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: AlexMax ]
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I was gonna ad my screenshot, but it appears that angelfire is blocking it. wierd. I need to migrate to a different server. when i get time, of course.
Anyway, it took a little under 3 seconds to load for me. And yes, i do have cable modem.
-t.
[ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: beltorak0 ]
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If you left your graphic with the original file extension, you need to change it to *.ppg, on angelfire that is.