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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: DJ on 9 December 2002, 23:16
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Ok everyone, I don't mean to sound like an ass because I agree with what most of you are saying but, why have a Windows Operating System Thread if all some of us will do is send them to windowsbbs (however it is spelled).
Now I do understand that we are an anti-M$ site and this question has probably been asked before, so don't flame me too much, but why have the section if we just refer them to somewhere else?
Just curious
Dj
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It is a place to talk about how the Windows Operating system sucks.
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Phooie. I thought you were gonna say "Windows Operating system? How can that be. Where's the operating?"
[ December 09, 2002: Message edited by: Fett101 ]
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lol
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Why the hell did I quote instead of edit. Hrumpf. Feel free to delete this any mod that wanders this way.
[ December 09, 2002: Message edited by: Fett101 ]
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If you want to spew your anger and frustration over windows, I think this is the perfect place.
A bit off topic, Fett: Who are the cartoons in your sig?
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tis from Red Meat. (http://redmeat.com)
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
It is a place to talk about how the Windows Operating system sucks.
M. O'Brien is right, but unfortunately a lot of the posts wind up as redirects to Windows BBS. We do get some willing converts though.
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hey foot are u usin linux now or something?
you seem to be way cooler now.
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there are many reasons for having a windows section.
this site wouldn't exist without microsoft, so it's fitting that the forums should have a section on microsoft's main moneyspinner.
lots of people post in this forum, so why should it go?
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Originally posted by Got Doogee?:
hey foot are u usin linux now or something?
you seem to be way cooler now.
Nope. I'm more into hanging out and enjoying myself then annoying others.
Though I might soon have a seperate box that I could install Linux on, and will likely do that.
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I have been enlightened (http://tongue.gif)
Dj
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Originally posted by Fett101:
Phooie. I thought you were gonna say "Windows Operating system? How can that be. Where's the operating?"
It must be operating something in some way. It can't be so damned terrible at it if it doesn't *do* it, can it?
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Windows does not 'operate', Windows thinks it's 'operating', but in truth all that's happening is a mental projection of Bill Gates love life, in other words a lot of money (advertisement) thrown at a cheap whore (windows) for a wife. Bill gates never gets laid (partnership) unless money or alcohol (acquiring companies and their assets, or fucking them over) is involved.
FUCK MICROSOFT. And yes, it's personal.
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windows was originally a better GUI for DOS than the one they had already. remember that MSDOS was a hack of QDOS which was a hack of CP/M. MS never actually ever properly mastered MSDOS, which is pretty poor since most of their products were based over it for about 15 years.
Now as for windows, after about windows 95, it starts to get funny. it's still a GUI for DOS but now it has a lot of shit like extended memory and a whole slew of other stuff that DOS just cannot do on its own. A lot of dirty hacks need to be run to allow windows to make a fair attempt at behaving like an operating system even though it has MSDOS hiding underneath right up to 2000 (as Bill Gates once said about MSDOS "640k ought to be enough memory for anyone").
But back to 1995 for now, windows NT is coming along fairly fast. It's an operating system built primarily because too many people know or are figuring out how DOS (and by extension windows) works. Not good if you want to have your monopoly and eat it too, so they take 5 years, phase out DOS completely and steal what they can (BSD TCP/IP stack, anyone?) and kludge together the rest into what amounts to a complete clone of window-on-dos as far as GUI goes, but under the hood you have three new approaches:
1) make it as arcane as possible so people who figured out DOS are still kept guessing for years. I bet MS are patting themselves on the back for NTFS, how long will it be before somebody figures out how to implement that in a real system? and in the meantime hordes of clueless newbies (and morons too) are being conned into converting their drives to the useless dead end NTFS filesystem.
2) for gods' sake make it look as though all your old win32 programs will still run on it. It doesn't matter if they really do run, people tend to be satisfied if their old programs kind of work, and their old games might die after the intro screens, but that's okay. They'll upgrade their programs and buy new games. Let's face it if their old programs did not even look like they might work, those people might never buy the system in the first place. As it is, they think that program works with everybody else's machine (because they saw the startup screen) and there's just something wrong with their personal machine/windows combination.
3) spyware! microsoft realised recently that what with it losing money hand over fist fighting court cases, allowing flagship products to go out as loss leaders and using pirated software as a form of advertising, it would need to find a new source of revenue. Market research is it. Hundreds of companies will pay through the nose to get real statistics about your every little twitch and whim on your computer, and if you use microsoft windows XP or any later microsoft operating system, you will (i have heard) be obliging them by allowing them to collect any data they wish, and alter the contents of your hard drive if they feel like it. see here for more details (http://belg88.com/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=75).
So you see microsoft windows operates in exactly the way it is intended to run. To me using linux at home is like being able to explore a huge fully furnished castle, and using windows afterwards is like arriving at the castle, and entering to find it is a completely hollow facade, without even floors or walls.
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so what your saying calum is its not so much a window as it is a picture? :cool:
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calum i praise you for a long response but there are a few notes: windows nt when it was being developed DID have code from dos. yes, microsoft was stupid enough to include code in a new OS from an OS originally called Quick and Dirty OS. Uh huh. that code is STILL in windows, all the way up to XP. if you check some of those windoze executables in the \windows directory and \windows\system[32] dir you can find some that have version notes from windows 3.1! xp users try it! i found a couple apps that had that when i was at my friends house on his xp pc.
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that...
is...
RIDICULOUS!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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But I really love WindowXP! It's so pretty and you can point and click on stuff. And it has such nice icons and things. And you have to know that Bill Gates really loves us and gives a wonderful way to work with our computers.
The best Windows is WindowsXP!!
I really love WinXP!! It is soooo pretty and there's a cute little puppy to help me if I get lost! It does make me so sad that the friendly paperclip in good old Microsoft Office XP is gone though. He used to make me very happy.
Oh, and I really love the beautiful blue screens I get with Windows when I try to do something important with it. I NEVER get those in Linux. Not even with the new Red Hat BLUEcurve. I was really hoping that with Bluecurve I could get those nice blue screens like I get in Windows all the time. I guess Linux just needs to mature a bit. With more work I'm sure that they can make it have nice blue screens with cryptic messages, just like Windows has.
Anyway, I guess I'll just take some more of my medication (Molsen Golden tonight) and trudge along with my crappy Linux computer. Maybe next year I'll be able to afford a really nice Windows computer. One with WinXP !!
I really hope that Bill Gates is having a wonderful holiday season. He's my hero!
Yeah..... right.....
Jim
[ December 30, 2002: Message edited by: DOSman ]
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Know thy enemy!
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lol
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Oh, and I really love the beautiful blue screens I get with Windows when I try to do something important with it. I NEVER get those in Linux
What about Segmentation Faults? lol
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the thing that i like most about windows xp is that it is actually almost impossible to actually use the computer to do anything! thatq feeling of relief when you finally find out how to get something configured how you want it is just unique.
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<sarcastic>
Oh yeah, I love windows xp for that, not ever needing to know what to do, because Microsoft does it for me. And all i pay for this is my soul to be eternally damned and all my legal assets being signed to bill gates. Ahh, I love technology.
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You forgot to close your tag.
<sarcastic>Text</sarcastic>
:)
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What about Segmentation Faults? lol
What about 'em? :confused:
Sure, I get 'em a lot when developing new programs. It happens, but i can always use Kdbg, and/or Valgrind to find out why and where they are occuring and fix the problem. NBD (http://tongue.gif)
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quote:
Originally posted by SAJChurchey:
You forgot to close your tag.
<sarcastic>Text</sarcastic>
:)
maybe he's just planning on being sarcastic from now on until he closes it in a future post...