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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Siplus on 19 October 2002, 20:44

Title: compatiblity
Post by: Siplus on 19 October 2002, 20:44
are there any free oses that have the compatiblity windows has? i know linux has WinE, but i'm told that that has limits. i would like to remove all things microsoft from my computer, but this looks unrealistic. i have redhat and windows2000, but i have to say that windows is my primary OS, something i'm not proud of...
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Master of Reality on 19 October 2002, 20:45
there is many Linux alternatives for most of the windows products.

Office= OpenOffice, Koffice
Mail= Pine, kmail, lots of others
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Siplus on 23 October 2002, 01:06
i know there are alternatives to applications, but (and i've seen on this site that 'games' are not considered to be important enough to be considered, or at least this is the impression i got from the feedback page) what i would like to know is if there are any OSes that are compatible for games made for windows.
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 23 October 2002, 01:16
The new upcoming version of Lycoris is to incorporate the transgaming technology into its OS.  Why not try that?

 www.lycoris.com (http://www.lycoris.com)

If you don't like that you can still install (transgaming) on other non win machines, like an apple for example.
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Ice-9 on 23 October 2002, 01:21
I think Xandros would be a better deal than Lycoris.
I also think this is not what he's looking for  (http://smile.gif)

If you want to play games but don't want to put up with Windows you should try a Mac, there are not as many games for Mac as there are for Windows but definitely more than for Linux.
I believe that if one day we want more games available for Linux we should support companies that port their titles to Linux.
Companies like Id Software and Epic already do that but I realize fps aren't everything to some people  :D
Title: compatiblity
Post by: preacher on 24 October 2002, 11:55
Ok, maybe Im a linux purist, but Lycoris looks like they are trying to copy XP, and I mean that in a bad way. I dont know what window manager that is, but Im guessing its a modified version of kde with a heavy ass XP theme. At least mandrake still feels like linux, but is just as easy to use. Where is the innovation? Why copy the XP gui when you can create something better. My suggestion Is Mandrake 9, and download WineX. It costs a little money, but I read that it can work with Max Payne.
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Siplus on 25 October 2002, 06:45
i was/am getting redhat 8, but where do i dl wineX?
Title: compatiblity
Post by: emh on 25 October 2002, 07:00
http://www.transgaming.com (http://www.transgaming.com)

Get WineX here.
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Calum on 25 October 2002, 12:42
siplus, the fact that you can run win32 applications at all on a non windows system is a bonus. try running a linux program on windows and see how far you get.

As for games, they are just as important on linux as any other platform, it's just that the webmaster's opinion (and he is a mac user by the way) is that if you want to play games, then buy a playstation, and there's a lot to be said for that.

also, linux is just as compatible as windows, and in many cases is even more so, however if you are dead set on running windows programs rather than alternatives, then you will probably have to keep using windows. otherwise, just install your red hat, and a lot of the free programs that come with it, and try them all out!
Title: compatiblity
Post by: mridul on 25 October 2002, 20:27
quote:
Originally posted by Siplus:
i would like to remove all things microsoft from my computer


Nice step pal. i'll follow you soon  :D
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Calum on 26 October 2002, 02:10
quote:
Originally posted by Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1:
Urm Calum theres cygwin, so you can run any Unix app on Windows (With Source). But you should just get the ports of games to Linux. And WineX!

www.lokigames.com (http://www.lokigames.com)


yeah but windows is internally unstable and doesn't support any decent filesystem, so you probably ca<n't do half the things you could do if you were running the programs in linux, am i right?

besides, why bother when linux is free anyway?
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Siplus on 26 October 2002, 08:30
heh...speaking about linux being free........i've been trying to get redhat 8.0, but everytime i have my friend dl (he has a cable modem, i have dial-up) the ISO's, something goes wrong. first, i gave him a link to the main redhat site dl, but he said that it was dling extremely slow (which i expected since it was just released), so he left it running overnight, and he found that it had stopped completely at 7%. Then i gave him a link to a mirrored site, but when he got the first ISO done dling, he couldn't burn it (i don't know exactly what the error was, but the file registered as 0 kb, when he deffinatly downloaded a very large file...still kinda puzzeled at that one...). I am going to have him try to dl from www.redhat.com (http://www.redhat.com) tonight, and tell him to use getright and see what happens.

can anyone tell me why some of these ISO's aren't working (i haven't even mentioned the RH7.3, Slack8 problems yet), or where a more reliable source to get the iso's are?

please help. i am new to linux, and i am having a hard time getting everything i need. i bought a book "learning red hat linux" that came w/ redhat 7.2, and so far, that is the only distro that i have gotten to work on my computer
Title: compatiblity
Post by: voidmain on 26 October 2002, 10:53
redhat.com is usually swamped with ISO downloaders so it is usually best to download it from an alternate site (depending on your region of the world). Can't tell you which mirror is the best, you just have to start a download and if the transfer rates suck, try a different one. Not sure what the problem is with your CDs but it would be wise to check this over really closely:

http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/howtoburn.html (http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/howtoburn.html)

Good luck!
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Siplus on 26 October 2002, 19:20
ok, thanks...hopefully this time my iso's will work : )
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Siplus on 31 October 2002, 02:30
can 2 computers (one w/ windows, one with linux using wineX) connect to each other in a game? i remember seeing (years ago) in half-life linux games that i could not join. was this only b/c they made a linux version of the game, or that the wine or wineX wasn't good enough to allow these 2 oses to connect in a game, or isn't this even possible

tia
Title: compatiblity
Post by: voidmain on 31 October 2002, 03:07
From reading up on the half-life forums at transgaming.com web site it would appear that you should have no problem playing on-line:

http://www.transgaming.com/gamepage.php?gameid=1 (http://www.transgaming.com/gamepage.php?gameid=1)

But then I don't play Windows games or use Wine/WineX. I can tell you I have no problem playing native Linux games (Quake and UT) with other users no matter what OS they run the game under.
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Calum on 31 October 2002, 03:07
don't know. i'm answering your last question:
i have heard that voidmain's linuxiso.org link is good, but i would strongly suggest that you consider getting red hat 8.0 cds (or some other distro) cheaply (probably cost price) via a local mail order company. This saves you having to download and burn the buggers yourself.
Title: compatiblity
Post by: Calum on 31 October 2002, 13:01
NTFS is a secret proprietary filesystem that cannot be read and written to by any operating systems other than Microsoft windows NT, Microsoft windows 2000 and Microsoft windows xp. You tell me how that's good. To me, it's useless, at least fat32 can be read and written to in linux, even if it doesn't support permissions, saving a time stamp with the document et cetera et cetera.

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