Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: CommonSense on 28 November 2001, 04:23
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You know -- their pitiful attempt to pull the wool over the judge's eyes by tormenting poor schoolchildren and forcing them to use M$ crap.
Read about it here (http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-7990350.html), among other places.
Discuss.
(Oh, and by the way -- FIRST POST!)
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yeah, i read about that last week. . what a shame. they're trying to sidestep things. what the fuck does providing school computers have to do with the case @ hand? not a damn thing. grrrrr
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Your right what are they thinking! Reaaally! Donating Computers. For cryin' out loud! :rolleyes:
-Cabal www.thedigitalcabal.net (http://www.thedigitalcabal.net)
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I've got an idea...Why don't they dump all the M$ shit and stick Linux or something along those lines, on the pc's for the kids to use...It'll get those little terd burglars used to something desent.
My schools starting to bring in a heafty load of iMacs and G4's for us to use instead -- my sysadmin is a bit of a MacFan. Poor Soul.lol. Whattya's think about that?
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I like RedHat's proposal to have thier distro on MS purchased computers. But I am almost certain that Microsoft would pull some stunt like loading all the computers with winmodems or something. After all, they have resorted to such cry-baby tactics in the past.
Which reminds me, I wonder why MS would gladly use FreeBSD on thier Hotmail servers, yet throw all of _thier_ garbage platforms out to the general public? Maybe they don't want anymore lame-ass script kiddies to plow thier way through NT/2000/XPeed.
But that's another thread . . .
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Originally posted by Kyle McD:
My schools starting to bring in a heafty load of iMacs and G4's for us to use instead -- my sysadmin is a bit of a MacFan. Poor Soul.lol. Whattya's think about that?
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I think the guy's not being paid enough!
Linux is wonderful and all, but subjecting little kids to it really is asking for trouble. Unless elementary schools are now teaching kids how to run servers and I somehow hadn't heard about it, I really don't think Linux is the smartest choice.
Windows is a pretty damn lousy choice -- well, because it's Windows, obviously. But also because of the fact that M$ really doesn't seem to give a shit about the fact that most school districts don't have money to burn on their ridiculously overpriced software licenses.
And the argument that "we should let kids learn on the platform they're most likely to use when they're out in the real world" is pure bullshit, too. Does anyone really think a fifth-grader using Windows ME today (because i doubt the average school has "upgraded" to XP yet) is going to have some magical insight into the prevailing operating system in use in 2011, when he/she enters the workforce? Yeah, I didn't think so either.
And I think Cabal is missing the point, above. Don't think for one second that Microsoft has ANY altruistic motivation behind donating machines and software to schools. This is a settlement that allows them to further their monopoly by shoving Windows down the throats of countless school districts, depriving them of a choice. Can they use the money to buy something else? Sure, but how likely is that when they're probably most inclined to believe Microsoft is a "great citizen" for showering them with all this money?
Finally, Apple got off its "take the higher ground" ass and said something about this shit in a public statement, though I personally don't think they were strident or angry enough.
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Originally posted by The Webmaster:
And I think Cabal is missing the point, above.
me too.
no one ever said donating computers was a bad idea. but this raises another question -- what's microsoft been doing for schools in the past?
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Originally posted by The Webmaster:
[QB]You know -- their pitiful attempt to pull the wool over the judge's eyes by tormenting poor schoolchildren and forcing them to use M$ crap.
The entire episode is a total sham.
So the government accuses Microsoft of gouging the market, then it gives them carte blanche to do the very thing they were brought up on trial for.
The government had NO CASE AGAINST MICROSOFT.
The government is Microsoft's biggest customer.
The government can tell you as a subcontractor that you must use Windows?
Fuck them both.
The thing that pisses me off is that they used our taxpayers hard-earned dollars to pursue this sham in the first place.
Give us our money back. :mad: :mad: :mad:
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I say MS is made just to give schools money. That way they can spend it on anything they want to.
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Machead, taxpayer money is wasted on everything nowadays, you're absolutely right.
Congress should pass a law prohibiting the use of Microsoft's lame ass OS because it contains excessive amounts of pork. We are going to have to switch one day, Microsoft cannot hold thier monopoly forever.
Even if we can't change things now, we can for the future. For the sake of our kids and of our grandkids. We should be using computers to exhibit thier full potential, not to heighten somebody's profit margin.
Dammit, it's about time we stopped all of these idiots from commercializing everything they can squeeze a fuckin buck out of. If you haven't noticed, the Internet is going through the same commercialization process as everything else has. If only the NSF didn't unleash this beast into the hands of these dimwits, without any strings attached. Now, with WindowsXP out there, Microsoft is one step closer to having a monopoly over the Internet. Don't believe it? Well wake up and smell the decaf buddy because the people at Redmond will stop at nothing until the ENTIRE computing industry is under thier control. Dynamic insertion of HTML into others webpages will escalate to IE8 selecting exactly what web pages it wants you to view. Then we would really be seeing what "suddenly everything sucks" truly means. :mad:
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we all know linux is more advanced than windows but it's not very suitable for young children... lol
oh yeah has anyone else besides me seen this?
MS Linux (http://www.mslinux.org)
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p.s. the whole pulling the wool over the judges eyes...
is what good lawyers do folks...
letting a 12 year old girl cry at the stand is sometimes the only way to win a case
and lets face it
we all know MS isn't going to go without a fight
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Originally posted by hook:
MS Linux (http://www.mslinux.org)
ROFL, it's basically Linux + a crash module if they ever get around to doing it. :D
If my school got funds from M$, we'd just use it to buy more systems, and install debian on them. :D
[ November 29, 2001: Message edited by: k3it4r0u ]
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unfortuntely we don't have too many smart sysadmins at our school, if we did we wouldn't be using nt 4.0 still
we got a t1 line and a pretty descent size network, we'll be a tree soon
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Originally posted by The Webmaster:
You know -- their pitiful attempt to pull the wool over the judge's eyes by tormenting poor schoolchildren and forcing them to use M$ crap.
watch how the machines they send will be equipped with winmodems and winprinters and other wincrap that requires win32 software for functionality :mad:
[ November 29, 2001: Message edited by: asdf ]
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sounds like the search for the missing drivers if u ask me
lol
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It's a T1 network, so we'll just melt the winmodems with a bunsen burner. :D
[ November 29, 2001: Message edited by: k3it4r0u ]
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Originally posted by k3it4r0u:
It's a T1 network, so we'll just melt the winmodems with a bunsen burner. :D
[ November 29, 2001: Message edited by: k3it4r0u ]
how about.. fuck microsoft, i want my fucking money?
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my schools network setup is none of my business....
windows isn't always the wrong answer
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hook, are you stupid, or just brain damaged?
Okay, maybe you're school's network isn't your business, but it sure as hell is your parents' business since they're tax dollars pay for the machines in the first place.
And Windows is ALWAYS the wrong answer. No exceptions.
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what i want o know is why bill doesn't sell his damn company, and say the hell with microsoft. he's got more billions than h has a for a serm count! why keep going? that's enough inheritance to keep 10 generations of family rich as hell!
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Originally posted by Anon_person_not_bill_gates:
what i want o know is why bill doesn't sell his damn company, and say the hell with microsoft. he's got more billions than h has a for a serm count! why keep going? that's enough inheritance to keep 10 generations of family rich as hell!
Jeez, I love the geniuses this forum is attracting. (sigh)
It's simple: Lust for money. When you're ambitious, and the pursuit of money defines your life, It is NEVER ENOUGH. I suppose Gates would probably give us some lame company line, like how he wants to continue to be "part of a company that offers new innovations," blah blah BLAH BLAH BLAH, but really, it comes down to money.
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Originally posted by The Webmaster:
It's simple: Lust for money. When you're ambitious, and the pursuit of money defines your life, It is NEVER ENOUGH. but really, it comes down to money.
I don't think so. Maybe in the early days it was money...nope...don't think even in the early days. It's *power* that Billy Bob truly seeks/enjoys. I honestly believe he wants to be king of terra forma, or maybe even the king of the universe as he about has terra forma locked in. You mentioned in previous posts that he has the government and schools wrapped around his little finger and I totally agree. I get sick when I think about that part of it. More so than when MS sends their auditors (software police) through our company to determine how much money we owe them for illegal licenses, then send in their thug lawyers to collect. 90% of what the government uses Windows for could be done with Linux & StarOffice. It really chaps my ass to think that a chunk of my tax dollars are going to Billy Bob because some of our government employees are lazy (I was a government employee for 15 years, the last 5 running IBM RS/6000 servers and used Linux on developer workstations. I did my part, but that was 5 years ago, things are turning to the dark side from everything I've been hearing).
My kids spend more time using Linux than they do Windows (they are grade school age) so I don't buy the arguments I've seen earlier that Linux is too hard for young kids. Up until the latest KDE distro and StarOffice 6 I would have agreed with this argument.
Peace!
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Originally posted by <VoidMain>:
terra forma, or maybe even the king of the universe as he about has terra forma locked in.
Of course I meant "Terra Firma". (Laptop keyboard is too small, got me twice). And I could go on and on with reasons why our government should be running Linux over any other OS where possible.
The biggest reason is not monetary. It's open source! I certainly do not trust Microsoft and apparently the government does not if they took them to court for monopolistic tactics. I don't have a comfortable feeling that our government is depending on software without being able to check under the hood.
And then there is this little virus problem... I don't know how many emails I just received with the virus embeded in an <iframe> that seems to be the latest round of problems for MS OSs. Of course KDE-Mail laughs at these messages....
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mv /c/autoexec.bat /c/autoexec.bak
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I wish I could have growned up using linux instead of Windows. I would have growned smarter, cuz Windows don't want you to learn how WINDOWS works. But linux doesn't give a shit,if you don't know how it work,well,it don't work,so LEARN!
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Originally posted by m0rbid:
I wish I could have growned up using linux instead of Windows. I would have growned smarter, cuz Windows don't want you to learn how WINDOWS works. But linux doesn't give a shit,if you don't know how it work,well,it don't work,so LEARN!
I'm glad I went to school and am not opposed to the concept of "learning". And it feels so good to have learned.