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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: GamerX on 22 April 2003, 19:56

Title: Windows XP is not that bad! (Please read entire message)
Post by: GamerX on 22 April 2003, 19:56
Except for a fucked-up interface, huge bugs, frequent crashes, massive bloating, huge price-tag,lack of open source code, the un-uninstallable Internet Explorer, no MS-DOS prompt, and all of the M$ made spyware that comes with it, Windows XP is great!
*puts on flame-proof suit*

[ April 23, 2003: Message edited by: GamerX ]

Title: Windows XP is not that bad! (Please read entire message)
Post by: zoolooo on 22 April 2003, 21:27
Cost  ;)
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Post by: Calum on 22 April 2003, 21:56
gamerx, what else is left?
Title: Windows XP is not that bad! (Please read entire message)
Post by: lazygamer on 23 April 2003, 02:07
Huge bugs, fucked up interface(after turning off the Fisher price stuff), bloatedness, frequent crashes... proveable?

What do you guys think of the argument that faulty(or diskliked) hardware, and bad setup settings, can cause windows to crash?

All I know for sure is that XP is quite stable on my comp. If it was more buggy and bloated than W98, wouldn't it crash just as much?
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Post by: Pantso on 23 April 2003, 02:11
quote:
Originally posted by GamerX:
Except for a fucked-up interface, huge bugs, frequent crashes, massive bloating, lack of open source code, the unistallable Internet Explorer, no MS-DOS prompt, and all of the M$ made spyware that comes with it, Windows XP is great!
*puts on flame-proof suit*



If all of the above is true about XPee, then what else is really left to prove that XPee is great?   :confused:    :D
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Post by: TheQuirk on 23 April 2003, 02:45
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Originally posted by GamerX:
lack of open source code


Yeah, because most people care about that--like you, right?
Title: Windows XP is not that bad! (Please read entire message)
Post by: xyle_one on 23 April 2003, 02:51
i like windows 2000. it is not nearly as bad as any of the other ones.
Title: Windows XP is not that bad! (Please read entire message)
Post by: X123 on 23 April 2003, 12:38
Windows XP is the best operating system there is (I'm practising talking out of my ass).
Title: Windows XP is not that bad! (Please read entire message)
Post by: HPC GUY on 23 April 2003, 18:59
Xp is microsofts way of making up for millenium edition...and they still didnt get that right...
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Post by: SAJChurchey on 23 April 2003, 20:15
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the unistallable Internet Explorer


I think you mean not uninstallable IE, or something like that.  Dammit M$ is driving me to bad grammar.
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Post by: GamerX on 23 April 2003, 21:50
^Yeah, that's what I meant.
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Post by: Calum on 23 April 2003, 21:59
this thread is very wrong!
ecsyle says he likes windows, and qhatever died up the quirk's ass last week is turning in its grave, not to mention HPC guy saying XP is some sort of atonement for windows ME, when it seems obvious to me that it's simply more of the same punishment...

next we'll have void main coming in here asking us for help setting up his new IIS server!!!!
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Post by: theangelofdeath69 on 28 April 2003, 14:40
Well, there is ONE way to make up for the crappy interface and fisher price shit

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WindowBlinds!!!
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Ah, to hell with it.  Download RedHat.
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Post by: xyle_one on 28 April 2003, 19:57
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Originally posted by Calum: crusader for peace & freedom:
this thread is very wrong!
ecsyle says he likes windows, and qhatever died up the quirk's ass last week is turning in its grave, not to mention HPC guy saying XP is some sort of atonement for windows ME, when it seems obvious to me that it's simply more of the same punishment...

next we'll have void main coming in here asking us for help setting up his new IIS server!!!!



okay. let me clarify. when i am forced to use windows, i will will choose 2000. i like 2000 the most out of all versions of windows. that doesnt mean i enjoy using it. it just means that i would rather use 2000 over xp. then again, id rather use jaguar over 2000 any day  (http://smile.gif)
2000 doesnt crash as much as xp does. but i still have a log i kept where i had like 20+ bluescreens in 2000 on day. that was fun   :rolleyes:  i should find it and post it. hilarious.
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Post by: theangelofdeath69 on 29 April 2003, 00:38
Or, you could use Windows 3.11

I don't remember that crashing at all!  Certainly Windows 1.0 didn't!
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Post by: mobrien_12 on 29 April 2003, 00:45
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Originally posted by The Angel Of Death BETA 2.0:
Or, you could use Windows 3.11

I don't remember that crashing at all!  Certainly Windows 1.0 didn't!



3.11 crashed alot.  W/o preemptive multitasking or protected memory there was a very good chance that a crashed program would force you to reboot.  

Also, 3.11 had some memory leak issues that would force you to reboot every so often unless you had a 3rd party memory manager.

However, a 3.11 crash never FUBARed the OS (requiring a reinstall) unlike some Win 95 crashes I remember.  

Interestingly enough, I don't remember Windows 1.0 crashing now that you mention it.

[ April 28, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]

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Post by: jtpenrod on 29 April 2003, 23:31
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Except for a fucked-up interface, huge bugs, frequent crashes, massive bloating, huge price-tag,lack of open source code, the un-uninstallable Internet Explorer, no MS-DOS prompt, and all of the M$ made spyware that comes with it, Windows XP is great!
Well, it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, I suppose. Or maybe not?    :D  
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Post by: suselinux on 30 April 2003, 21:00
Call men ignorant If you want, but I have to ask.

What was Windows born from.  I can't really imagine it being entirely original.
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Post by: jtpenrod on 30 April 2003, 11:02
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What was Windows born from. I can't really imagine it being entirely original.
It got started with QDOS, which His Gatesness bought from Seattle Computing, which, in turn, ripped off CP/M. QDOS became MS-DOS, and then they slapped a GUI on top of it. This idea His Gatesness stole from Apple, which had gotten the idea from Xerox PARC.

It wasn't "original" at all.   :D  
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Post by: jpmarat on 6 May 2003, 08:06
Quick forward:  I'm running XP Pro on an Inspiron 8200 P4 laptop...runs like a dream.  I've crashed twice in six months, both times due to my video card drivers.  I have very little reason to be terribly upset.  HOWEVER...

M$ still blows.

Palladium is the devil, and I plan on switching to Linux (Probly RH 8 or so) this summer when I can have my comp down for long periods of time without losing schoolwork.  I will be boycotting M$ products from this point forward, and I'm looking into Sun Office.

XP is uses so much memory, but I don't do that much stuff that is memory intensive, and since I have 512 mB, it doesn't bother me.  However, the operating system alone SHOULDN'T suck 100 mB of memory.

Windows, as has been stated, was built on MS-DOS, which was a makeover on Q-Dos, which was basically Gary Killdall's CP/M with the HD drive letter changed to c, from a.  the GUI came from the Apple Lisa, which came from the Xerox Alto, which, interestingly enough, was the first true networkable computer, complete with a technology that Xerox called ethernet.  All this back in the mid 80s!  Anyhow, sorry for the long post, but spread the word, M$ blows, and this Palladium will only make things worse.  Intel isn't helping either, and their fascist Centrino is the first step toward total TCPA domination.  Keep your PCs running smoothly, because soon you may not be able to buy a PC without Palladium technology!!!
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Post by: raptor on 6 May 2003, 08:23
quote:
for example id prefer butsex with torvalds rather then bill, but it doesnt mean id like it.


 


  :rolleyes:

[ May 05, 2003: Message edited by: raptor ]

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Post by: slave on 6 May 2003, 08:27
I'm glad you're making the switch!  It certainly is worth it.  Red Hat Linux 9 is out now, so I would suggest using it rather than 8.  Here's a screenshot of my RH9 desktop in case you are curious:

http://www.bayou.com/~troll/screen1.png (http://www.bayou.com/~troll/screen1.png)
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Post by: raptor on 6 May 2003, 08:36
cool screenshot.
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Post by: Refalm on 7 May 2003, 00:06
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Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
I'm glad you're making the switch!  It certainly is worth it.  Red Hat Linux 9 is out now, so I would suggest using it rather than 8.  Here's a screenshot of my RH9 desktop in case you are curious:

http://www.bayou.com/~troll/screen1.png (http://www.bayou.com/~troll/screen1.png)



What happened to Mandrake?
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Post by: slave on 7 May 2003, 00:43
Mandrake (and KDE) turned out to be pretty buggy.  I spent around an hour getting the truetype fonts installed correctly, and KDE's control panel started driving me mad, as did Konqueror's glaring bugs that popped up while surfing the web.  I went back to RH and GNOME because, frankly, they just work.  Gnome may not have as many features as KDE, but after using both I believe that Gnome is a much more thought out piece of software.
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Post by: Refalm on 7 May 2003, 01:22
I'm holding back on Red Hat and Gnome because I'm not sure that everything is in the Dutch language...
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Post by: xyle_one on 7 May 2003, 02:16
i just installed mandrake 9.1 last night, and am very impressed. of course, i havent even really used it yet. so we will see. i do want to give redhat 9 a spin as well. maybe i will install that this weekend.
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Post by: chaizak on 8 May 2003, 16:25
It's true XP is really bad every time I had it installed after one month I had to format because of the crash that occured every time I runned an app.
I believe Win2000 is far better but the best choices are:Linux, MacOs and Solaris
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Post by: GamerX on 9 May 2003, 05:47
Windows 2000 is excellent. Too bad M$ knew  that they had made a decent product and therefore came out with XP less than a year later.
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Post by: Pissed_Macman on 9 May 2003, 14:45
Windows -2000 is horrible!!!! The theme is supposed to be a whole bunch of gradients but none of them are anti-aliased!!! Don't even get me started on -2000!!!! No, it is not EXCELLENT you heretic, it is slightly better than the other Windows, which means it STILL SUCKS!!!!!!
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Post by: Sictex on 9 May 2003, 17:00
Fuck them and their shitty ass, no e-mail asses. My internet keeps shuting down on finals week, as if my life is in enough stress, and all they fucking want to do is give me a update that it says I already have? Fixed my ass. Microsoft and their shitty software can eat my ass with a fucking wooden spoon. I hate them and all of their programers. I hope they know the hell they have imposed upon all non-mac users. I feel like a Jewish man with a star on my shit in Nazi Germany with this shit in my computer. If anyone knows a way to get in contact with them can you please tell me so that I can e-mail them to bitch about the quality of their product. They want me to talk to the poeple who made my computer according to their website, and they wont help me even though its their shit stopping me without me paying them. What the hell is that? Its like being held ransom. If anyone could help me without charging like the Third Riche known as Microsoft, please tell me. I would apprecate this.
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Post by: Calum on 9 May 2003, 18:37
well you could get rid of all that microsoft crap on your computer before finals week comes around that's for sure. with no windows on your machine windows can't fuck up anymore.
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Post by: Faust on 9 May 2003, 18:59
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the hell they have imposed upon all non-mac users


Actually not all "non mac" users have to go through this hell.  People with Intel/AMD pc's have an alternative to Microsoft, available here - www.linuxiso.org (http://www.linuxiso.org)
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Post by: Faust on 9 May 2003, 19:04
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If anyone could help me without charging


Linux is free, primarily in terms of Freedom from evil closed software like Microsoft Windows but also usually (though this isnt as important) free in terms of cost.  Lots of "versions" of the extremely high quality Linux OS can be got for free download or bought cheap online.

And if by "internet" you mean Internet Explorer then maybe you should get a better browser at www.mozilla.org? (http://www.mozilla.org?)

btw:comparisons between Microsoft and genocide probably arent suitable no matter how shit their products are.
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Post by: slave on 9 May 2003, 20:31
Honestly, this is the *most* "linux" EVER fucks up on my computer:

somtimes I have to restart Gnome because nautilus gets a memory leak and takes up 99% of the processor

that's about it.  I reported the bug though.
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Post by: GamerX on 10 May 2003, 01:09
quote:
Originally posted by Faust:


Linux is free, primarily in terms of Freedom from evil closed software like Microsoft Windows but also usually (though this isnt as important) free in terms of cost.  Lots of "versions" of the extremely high quality Linux OS can be got for free download or bought cheap online.

And if by "internet" you mean Internet Explorer then maybe you should get a better browser at www.mozilla.org? (http://www.mozilla.org?)

btw:comparisons between Microsoft and genocide probably arent suitable no matter how shit their products are.



Mozilla=  (http://smile.gif)
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Post by: NM on 10 May 2003, 04:48
quote:
Originally posted by Sictex:
Fuck them and their shitty ass, no e-mail asses. My internet keeps shuting down on finals week, as if my life is in enough stress, and all they fucking want to do is give me a update that it says I already have? Fixed my ass. Microsoft and their shitty software can eat my ass with a fucking wooden spoon. I hate them and all of their programers. I hope they know the hell they have imposed upon all non-mac users. I feel like a Jewish man with a star on my shit in Nazi Germany with this shit in my computer. If anyone knows a way to get in contact with them can you please tell me so that I can e-mail them to bitch about the quality of their product. They want me to talk to the poeple who made my computer according to their website, and they wont help me even though its their shit stopping me without me paying them. What the hell is that? Its like being held ransom. If anyone could help me without charging like the Third Riche known as Microsoft, please tell me. I would apprecate this.


What exactly do you mean no internet, sounds like an ISP issue. . . .