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Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: HibbeeBoy on 4 October 2002, 19:31

I am about to step into the Linux world. I bought SuSE Linux at CompUSA and I am getting ready to intall it. Having read some of the documentation I am a bit intimidated with the partitioning.
If Linux works well I would plan on implementing for the whole organisation, about 35 to 40 PCs/laptops.Just ditch M$ off the desktop, wouldn't that be nice ?!

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: RudeCat7 on 5 October 2002, 05:55

RULE#1:

Be prepared to do a clean reinstall of any OS at any time. Don't be a slave to your PC.

RULE#2:

Don't be afraid! Cause you backed up your shit anyway, right?

(I hate it when people don't back up their shit!)

For your first Suse install, just accept the default partitioning, no mess, no fuss.

RULE#3:

Have Fun!  :D

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 5 October 2002, 06:49

If you need help, PM me, and check out this thread:
http://forum.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000057 (http://forum.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000057)

A lot of it is Mandrake-oriented, but some of the partitioning stuff is for all of the linux OSes.

Have Phun!

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: jtpenrod on 5 October 2002, 10:13

To Hibbee Boy:

Keep these web sites handy:

Linux Newbie (http://www.linuxnewbie.org)

Linux Documentation Project (http://www.tldp.org)

There's a great deal of information available that will prove most helpful. Winderz SUX, Linux RULEZ
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Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 6 October 2002, 00:34

'Bout them laptops:
Go to www.linux-laptop.net (http://www.linux-laptop.net) for information about support for onboard components etc.

Oddly, when I tried, the site was down. It should be back up soon...

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 6 October 2002, 02:10

I had SuSE 7.3 on my laptop, it had a SIS 630 chipset, it found the sound but the video display only worked properly if i booted the system with a disk, i couldn't even configure it to work at the proper res unless i booted with a disk.

Anyway, i had been looking at the 8.1 release and from the hardware page it seems that 630 chip is still a bit fucked so i don't think i will go the SuSE route, instead mandrake supports it after editing some damn command line i dunno.  Suppose i will know once i buy it.

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: HibbeeBoy on 14 October 2002, 22:33

Well, I did it. Installed on my Dell at home and it was easy peasy.
I haven't done much with it yet. A couple of problems though, didn't have a driver for my soundcard which is a TBS II Montego (Turtle Bay something) and none of the CD Players recognise the CD ROM. Do I have to mount or configure this in someway ?
Next I will try and persuade the Corporate guys to deploy Linux and get rid of M$ altogether.

[ October 14, 2002: Message edited by: HibbeeBoy ]

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: TheQuirk on 14 October 2002, 22:40

mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom

The F.A.Q has alot of stuff about mounting. See /etc/fstab, the mount command, and some other one that I don't remember.. Link is in my sig!

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: mobrien_12 on 14 October 2002, 23:39

I believe your sound card has an Aureal chipset.  Aureal was developing Linux open source drivers but went bankrupt.  

Others have taken up  working on the drivers.  You can give them a shot if you want.

Go to http://aureal.sourceforge.net (http://aureal.sourceforge.net)

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: HibbeeBoy on 15 October 2002, 01:06

Thanks for the links. I did check out the links and it's a bit hit and miss if it will be supported. It does use the Aureal chipset right enough. I am prepared to install another soundcard if I have to. Hell, I'm prepared to chew my right arm off to get out of the M$ trap !

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: HibbeeBoy on 16 October 2002, 19:52

Well, I am having a fine old time of it I must say. This Linux stuff is pretty damn good. However I have still not managed an internet connection. I think the problem is my years of Windows way of thinking. So, can anybody point me in the right direction ? I am using YsST2 in SuSe to configure the modem on my Dell but how do I test if the modem is even getting a dial tone and how do I configure Konqerer and e-mail to use that particular dial up connection/configuration ? I will be trawling the SuSe web site for info but just wondered if anybody could help.

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: Calum on 16 October 2002, 20:44

if you are using kde then there is an easy way to sort out your modem, i am assuming you mean a dialup modem, yes?

go and either open a terminal, or go to the start menu and select 'run command', then type in 'kppp', this brings up a dialogue box which is incredibly similar to the add new connection wizard in windows. This kppp program is a graphical frontend for 'ppp' so if you have any problems with it, open a terminal and type 'man ppp' for some enthralling bedtime reading.

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: HibbeeBoy on 16 October 2002, 21:44

Ah, magic. Yes it's a dial up modem. Thanks for your help I'll try it tonight. The wife is getting a bit fed up with me dicking around on the PC and the bairn can't play her games while I'm on it but it's good fun. Once I get the sound card configured and internet connection I'm off to the races !
Thanks for your help, I don't care what everybody else says about you, you're not that bad   ;)    :D  

PS. Hibees are back !

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: DJ on 17 October 2002, 00:08

Hey sorry to bring this up again everyone but I plan on partition my HD and installing Mandrake on my 2nd PC this weekend These are the new download options;

Download: Mandrake 9.0/i586 | Mandrake 9.0/i586 ISO Image | Mandrake 7.1/SPARC/UltraSPARC ISO Image | Mandrake 7.1/AXP ISO Image | Mandrake 7.0/i486 ISO Image | Mandrake IA64 | Mandrake 8.2/PPC |  | MandrakeSecurity Single Network Firewall

Do I want to go for the 9.0 ISO or not?

Also what do the Linux gurus here think about redhat?

DJ

[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: Engineer ]

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: RudeCat7 on 17 October 2002, 04:39

I'm curious about Mandrake too, I've never actually run that distro.

But I do have an opinion about Redhat 8.0..IMHO
Personally, I think it will be better with the next release.I was kinda surprised that they would release a distro that required a patch for xmms to play mp3z. Then, there is a tiny bug in Mozilla, in the address bar, if you right click, so you can select all, the menu disappears, and then refuses to come back up again. You have to use the main menu to "select all".
I've noticed also, that sometimes, a warning will pop up that "such and such" daemon is slowing down other processes.."do you want to close it?" this seems bizarre to me.
I'm going to keep using it though, until I learn to patch the kernel, and install modules. Then I'm gonna move on to Slackware fulltime. Mostly, I'm disappointed because 8.0 doesn't include the HP backends to support my 5100c scanner, which does work in Suse, but Suse comes with these backends preinstalled. They are a real pain in the arse to install right now.

Those are my bugs, but I still think it is cool.

[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: RudeCat7 ]

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: voidmain on 17 October 2002, 05:53

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Originally posted by RudeCat7:
I was kinda surprised that they would release a distro that required a patch for xmms to play mp3z.

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The way I understand it, MP3 capability was removed on purpose, it wasn't a bug. I'm not sure it will be included in the later releases either. At the time RH8 was being released there was the big story about royalty collection on MP3. Now, the MP3 patent holder (forget who that is at the moment) came out later and said their licensing hasn't changed. But I am still unclear if that means that RedHat will not be charged royalties for each distro sold or not.

I am sure RH will be checking into it and I would guess that if they want to charge RedHat royalties then MP3 will not be included in the next release either. I would assume it would be removed from all distros at that point. Of course you could still download the plugin.

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: RudeCat7 on 17 October 2002, 06:08

Hmmmm....that seems to be true. That is very lame.
Maybe we can look forward to the Ogg Vorbis format...

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: HibbeeBoy on 19 October 2002, 01:48

Man, I must be dumber that I realised. I still can't get the modem to dial out. I took Calum's suggestion and used KPPP to configure the modem but all I am getting is "Modem is Busy" or "Modem is not responding" depending on the /dev I use. So I have tried YaST2 and I am not sure if it configured the modem as there seems no way to test it. I am not clear what the real modem is either, should it be /dev/modem or dev/ssty0 or /dev/ssty1 or what ? How do I figure that out ?
It's a Dell PC with an internal MHD something or other modem.

Any help, much appreciated and I am trying Suse web site too.
Other than that, what's not to like ?!!

Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: zooloo on 19 October 2002, 04:59

MP3 alternative...

They say,

"Ogg Vorbis is a completely open, patent-free, professional audio encoding and streaming technology with all the benefits of Open Source."

vorbis.org (http://www.vorbis.com/)

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Title: Newbie on board.
Post by: HibbeeBoy on 27 October 2002, 01:39

Got the driver for the Conexant modem and managed to get the modem working. I am almost free of windows !! At home anyway. Losing connections sometimes but I will get that straightened out. LUVLY JUBBLY !!