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Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: avello500 on 31 July 2003, 21:24
i was just wondering if there is a better file or program manager for windows other than what b$ gates supplies. im shit box is running 2k pro.  before you get to typing hate mail for me,,, its only for audio production that i need my shitbox. i also use lycros and redhat 9.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: suselinux on 31 July 2003, 10:00
quote:
Originally posted by avello500:
i was just wondering if there is a better file or program manager for windows other than what b$ gates supplies. im shit box is running 2k pro.  before you get to typing hate mail for me,,, its only for audio production that i need my shitbox. i also use lycros and redhat 9.


What about the old File manager from 3.x

isn't there a way to access that in 2k?

it's still cumguzlersoft crap, but its not exploder.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: avello500 on 31 July 2003, 10:19
i saw somnething about that somewhere but i havent found a working version of 3.1  wait was there ever?
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: suselinux on 31 July 2003, 10:34
web page (http://www.ghisler.com/whatsnew.htm)

looky here

this one looks better more uptodate says compatible upto XP

web page (http://www.ddisoftware.com/smartfile/)

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Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: suselinux on 31 July 2003, 10:38
look here (http://netez.com/2xExplorer/)

Whole bunch a stuff here (http://www.hsinlin.com/software/file_managers.html)
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: avello500 on 31 July 2003, 11:31
good bird!!
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: Kupotek on 31 July 2003, 13:35
i  posted all about how i used different shells then Explorer.exe before.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: avello500 on 31 July 2003, 15:06
do you have a link to the post? or maybe the title to search by?
how was the expierience? outside of the blue screens that is.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: suselinux on 1 August 2003, 08:51
quote:
Originally posted by avello500:
good bird!!


I just Googled it
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: avello500 on 1 August 2003, 21:37
quote:
Originally posted by suselinux:


I just Googled it



that dont matter, you still get props from me.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: Laukev7 on 1 August 2003, 19:37
quote:
Originally posted by Emiko:
i  posted all about how i used different shells then Explorer.exe before.


Uh, OK. But at least include a link or something.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: raptor on 1 August 2003, 22:07
nope, if you want freedom use linux.


there is a very wide variety of file managers to choose from.


maybe they will come out with a new file manager for win**** in SP2, to bog down the computer even more.

[ August 01, 2003: Message edited by: raptor ]

Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: TuxLinux on 2 August 2003, 01:25
I now despise Microsoft I wish the whole corporation of Microsoft would be reduced to ashes. First my Router is not linux compatable, now,  trying to get my printer to print in normal color  also does not work. As half of the world is made for microsoft products. When will this type of slavery just end? I do not understand. How such good operting system as linux has trouble getting more hardware to be compatible. I was just looking at my poor friend. (I still have the windows box around too Compaq.) He was rebooting every 1 minute right now. But he does not want to use linux.  He has also a laptop that probably he does not think he can adopt to linux.

I am so mad that even with finding of microsoft monopoly. It still is   doing this and now  the orginal suite about the browser :-D um... is not being followed. They should all be convicted of crime in business and locked up.  As for the hardware vendors, that only support Microsoft, should also be boycotted and reduced to ashes.

 People outside of microsuck should realize. That they are growing a real WMD. If  noone stops them somehow using a pc will look like having   babysitter. A parent at all times. I want to do my report for my job in word: Please insert your .net piracy protection activation registry card. Access denied! error: Your windows 2 months license expired. Please contact microsoft police and they will first search you naked and give you another 2 months.

 It looks like total control I think. Well, I feel much better now. That I   ranted about Micro "soft" ? Bill and steve  can't get it up. Oh well not my problem.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: Stryker on 2 August 2003, 03:11
quote:
Originally posted by TuxLinux:
I now despise Microsoft I wish the whole corporation of Microsoft would be reduced to ashes. First my Router is not linux compatable...


How is that? all it does is decide where to send packets right? how does it know/matter what os u have?
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: TuxLinux on 2 August 2003, 03:57
Hello again, Well First this is my setup:

| Internet

|  <--- Modem

|   <--router  (With 4 pc support  outlets)

|   <----- PC 1  (Mine) OS: Linux

|  <--- PC 2     (Mom)  OS: Windows
 
|  <--- PC 3     (Webserver) Linux

|  <--- future reserved pc ??

Ok, now when  I click in Redhat Network Device control. The router, and the modem start to blink as if it is sending data. It stops and no connection. I cannot configure the router, because the software that is provided runs on windows only. I tried to run it on wine but no go! It says device not found. As we know Linux is not windows it does not use the same control Panel if any unless you call  the gnome  control panel thing)

 I tried using the ip supplied with the router. It comes up with not found in my mozilla browser. I believe you guys seen my router from earlier pictures in earlier posts.


My configuration (If I am wrong I am willing to change it :grin  However I tried almost all  including changing the router numbers in route)  

Here it is: (profile & configuration I use the GUI version)

============= only Profile Section=============

<Describe>  My profile: </Describe>  


Status :      Device:         Nickname:
 
Active         ppp0           Verizon


=========My configuration setup==================

<Describe> Device(s): </Describe>  

Profile:   Status:   Device:   nickname:  Type:

X          Active    ppp0      Verizon    xDSL


<Describe> Hardware: </Describe>        

Description:                   Type:     Device:

RealTek RTL-8139 SMC EZ Ca    Ethernet   etho


<Describe>  Dns: </Describe>  


All is  Redhat autodetected

X autodetect                        Dialup X

Primary:     (auto detected)

Secondary:  (auto detected)


Tertiary: Blank

Dns Search Path: Blank


<Describe>  Host:  </Describe>  

Ip:               Name:                 Aliases:

Seems local      localhost.localdomain  localhost

Btw, Friendship is not bought I think but earned! (Big Grin)

[ August 01, 2003: Message edited by: TuxLinux ]

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Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: Stryker on 2 August 2003, 04:01
if u only have 1 computer why do u have a router? once u get the other 3 have windows on one of them for configuring it. or install windows now, configure it how u like, then instlal linux and forget about it.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: TuxLinux on 2 August 2003, 04:05
I apologize I have 3pcs the other is my moms and the other one soon to be a webserver. (I shouldn't put reserved. Was in a rush to post!) That I would like to connect and a third I want to turn into a  webserver. My Mom is going to be taking courses on the internet so it is the best way if we get dsl on the 2nd machine! That is the compaq computer that can't use linux. Mom is now on it she took hold of that pc :-D  She  refuses to use mine as it is very scary :-D

We have discussed already  to send the  router back. In return to get linksys, not sure which one yet. I will have to make sure it is linux able. I have read on linux.org that some routers may not work on linux. I assume  winrouters like winmodems. I am not sure so I can't back up that statement if it is true.  Most likely a defective router. Because I was thinking to myself a router is more of a switch than a hardware?? So, it should not care what OS it is using.

=======Lets say it is not defective ========

 If I make the other pc the router one. Will it have to be (winpc)on all the time so linux could use it?  I (we) do not want  3 pcs to be on same time! Only 2 the webserver (linux so it can't be used to route either with this router) and mine. The other one should not have an always on conenction. Just a fast connection when it is on! Thanks!

ARGG more  description gone wrong!

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Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: raptor on 2 August 2003, 07:37
or just route with linux.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: Roshbo on 2 August 2003, 21:41
TuxLinux, I feel your pain :) I to have a number of computers that needed to be connected to a DSL and router, heres how I had to set mine up as the software that came with the router was for WIndows only...First I had to have at least one computer with Windows, so I set my sons up with W2K and Mandrake, with that I was able to set up the router, once that was done I was able to connect the rest of the family up, son number two pc with W2K and Mandrake then wifes Mac then my pc which runs only Mandrake all working and surfing with no problems.

Don't know if you can set yours up that easy, hopefully so, but that was how mine went. hope it helps.

Rosh

[ August 02, 2003: Message edited by: Roshbo ]

Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: Stryker on 2 August 2003, 10:06
why dont more routers have a web interface for configuring them?

does ur router manufacturer include documentation for it's configuration protocol? maybe you'll get lucky and someone already ported it.

[ August 02, 2003: Message edited by: Stryker ]

Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: suselinux on 2 August 2003, 11:07
My router, a Dlink, has a web interface, its great.

anyway about Linux and hardware.  More and more stuff is being ported to linux, or is being reverse enginered.

One by one big companies are seeing the light IBM, HP,etc.  and soon the basic hardware manufacturers will as well.

you have to remember no one is in business to make a product or to provide a service, your in business to make money nothing else, so if a hardware company sees money in Linux compatibility it'll happen if not you get the idea.

So compatability will only grow with popularity, popularity will only grow with compatability

kinda sucks but its workn' so far.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: raptor on 2 August 2003, 11:35
http://speedstream.com (http://www.speedstream.com) (siemens) routers rule.
Title: better file and/or program manager?
Post by: raptor on 2 August 2003, 11:39
in windows go

Start -> Run -> CMD -> ipconfig /all

and try and find your router gateway ip, then ping it. if the ping goes well (it should, if it is ur gateway) type that address in the URL bar and see if you get to the web interface.

Linux terminal  su - $root@--- : ifconfig

and try typing it in the URL bar for a web interface.