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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Chooco on 4 July 2002, 17:16
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i kept getting message about cannot read memory and cannot write memory. i asked the really smart guy where i bought the computer and he said it's most likely not a memory problem but a Windows problem and possibly a virus so i should just re-install Windows. i put the Windows CD in the drive and i get into the install procedure. it says that i cannot just "re-install" windows by overwriting windows but i would have to do a fresh install then it tells me i can't run 2 operating systems on the same partition so i would have to format the partion which is the entire hard drive.
some of the stuff i have on this computer works and i have no clue how so i basically CANNOT format. things like MySQL, it has no users yet my forum can still log in and write it.....no problems there (yet). PHP is installed somehow and i don't remember how i did it.
so now my computer has memory errors ever few hours which causes my game server to crash and not restart because the error message is still up and i can't fix the problem because it will make my website all f***ed up.
well isn't this just great.
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yup,
i'm afraid the people here are unlikely to be able to help you, which is unfortunate, maybe you could use a dynamic resizing tool to make your existing partition smaller, then install something else on the free space you just made at the end of the drive, then dual boot? this way, you can work out how to do all the stuff you need to do, while still leaving XP on your machine, set up the way it is in the meantime...
By the sounds of it though, that's not going to be much help either...
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I must confirm something. Is this Windows XP fault in your opinion?
Im just curious what everyone has to say here. Can any form of software cause permanant irrepairable damage to the hardware aspect of the computer?
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I don't know for sure if it's the os's fault but from all I hear XP definitely has a tendency of running fine in the beginning and screwing up after a few months (http://tongue.gif)
Almost everyone I know of that had XPee installed either installed Linux or Win2K over it.
Only a few of them claim that Xpee runs games better than Win2K, although Quake 2,3, and Jedi Knight run perfectly on my win2K box.
I still didn't manage to get Quake 3 running with sound in Linux :(
Couldn't you install a dual boot system with RedHat, let it resize your Windows partition and write your data away on a spare partition before you re-install XPee (if you really have to)?
[ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: Ice9 ] f**cking typos (http://smile.gif)
[ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: Ice9 ]
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I have a slighty different solutions.
Download a floppy based linux from another computer. Write it onto a floppy. Put it in the XP computer and reboot. Mount the harddrive, and upload the contents you need to a webserver. Reinstall windows and download your files from the webserver.
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if xp doesnt have the right up dates or newer drivers (the ones that come with it suck) you will have problems with certain hardware. look for driver updates for your configuration and if possible do a windows up date. I hate windows problems....
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the computer techie (who is very smart) said that the problem will probably go away if you re-install Windows. my original intention was to buy more ram (already got 512) but he said it wouldn't fix the problem. the problem keeps getting worse and worse and worse. i think i'm gonna put a blank hard drive into this thing and test Linux for a bit to see if Linux has the same problem, then i will DEFINATELY knwo it's Windows.
btw is Linux faster on Intel things than AMD things?
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quite frankly, you should tell this guy who supposedly knows his stuff that installing linux will probably make the problem 'go away'. I'd be suspicious of anybody that trusts 'probably' as a serious concept in any kind of engineering.
Good luck with linux, btw, re: AMD/intel, i gather that nowadays, many apps run faster on AMD than intel, due to the AMD chips' better efficiency when it comes to floating point calculations. This effect depends of course on whether your programs want to do mainly floating point or integer calculations.
As always, correct me if i am wrong somebody!
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Hey, I've noticed the shit too. Windows XP starts out great, then goes sour.
Oh and beware of techies, there are so many incompetent 'mofo's out there. Still, when your a n00b you don't got a choice(not saying you are).
It's like people being told to see their doctor constantly. Read up on health shit, eventually you can be your own doctor for much longer periods of time.
The same goes for mechanics. It all works out to the same thing, 'pay us money plz'. Mechanics, doctors and techies are there for SERIOUS PROBLEMS ONLY. They only seem common because they mainly cater to stupid newbies who don't know shit and don't know how to fix or maintain anything.
IMO techies are probably the least cruical of the three "Fixers". There is lots of mechanical problems with your car that are tough to tackle, and sometimes you don't know everything about your body. Although if you happen to be l33t, then the mechanic should be the only person that really is crucial to the "fixer" group.
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Specifically what errors do you get? Usually a jumbled mess of numbers, which when you plug into the MS Help Search box, you might get some answers.
You so far out of everyone I have talked to, have been getting the worst results with XP. Anything you added to the computer? Or did it just start one day with crashin?
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Choco just to let you know with some systems, once you go past 512mb of ram you need to have "Registered" memory or your system will produce errors left and right and the system will say low system resources. OH and i am a techie guys, and for the most part your right some dont know shit. At least the besy buy and microcenter techies, they dont know what the fuck they are doing...
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if yoiu can use it in your box and if you can find it get about 1gig of 800mhzRambus ecc ram. but it has to be ecc ram.
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try taking a memory board out, then the other.
boot to a dos disk from a windows 98 pc then repartition and format. leave room for linux!
[ July 06, 2002: Message edited by: sporkme / bob ]
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yo here is an update, i formatted the extra hard drive my Celeron 500 had in it and put Linux on it. Linux did not experience any memory problems. then i formatted Linux and put Windows XP on it, Windows no longer experiences memory errors. that techie guy is too damn smart i tell you what man.
sorta neat how he gave me the real answer instead of some stupid BS song and dance to make a sale. his job is to sell shit and he chose to give me the REAL answer, i'll give him a tip next time i buy something LOL, he deserves it (http://smile.gif) .
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hell i do the same shit, if ya dont need it dont buy it. We sell hardware too as well as fix stuff. if the customer appreciates the effort you may see them again when they make their next major upgrade!!
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i get the same problem with windows 2k whe i try to run kazaa. it fucking pisses me off b/c i can't download anymore crap with it. i am planning on just reinstalling 2k but i have to totally format my hardrive b/c if i just reinstall it will overwrite my boot loader. windows sucks balls. it should not have these damn memory eros all the time.
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Hey, I've noticed the shit too. Windows XP starts out great, then goes sour.
Don't lie. I've had XP on my machine for months now and it runs like it did when I first installed it. SuSE Linux 8, on the other hand, one day decided to crash every time I ran the online update. I ran the update from the Konsole and it gives me some unintelligable garbage about qt being unable to initialize the window. No one in the chat rooms knows why this is happening, and SuSE has failed to respond to me as of this time. Now I can't even update my system.
You want to know some other things that have mysteriously gone wrong under Linux since I've installed this version 2 months ago? Konqueror recently stopped rendering AA fonts. Konqueror crashes totally when I visit certain web pages (it's always done this) The permissions on the kicker icons suddenly changed to only allow root to run the programs; I had to manually go and change the permissions back. 2 mice are detected on my computer when there is only one. KMail wouldn't check my email until I made a "header entry" under a config file. Fonts suddenly started breaking up in GNOME help files whenever I scrolled up or down. Lilo stopped working, rendering my computer useless until I fixed the problem. Mozilla fucks up in some way every day. A corrupt thumbnail caused the file manager to crash every time I ran it until I deleted it. Quickbrowsing through the KDE menu causes a massive memory leak that crashes X within seconds. XCDRoast suddenly stopped loading, complaining about GTK not being able to "initialize X display buffer." Before you go saying "SuSE is a bad distribution" let me say that as bad as it is it's still a vast improvement over RedHat 7.2, which is what I was previously using. I could write 10 pages of problems that OS gave me.
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Maybe you should switch to Red Hat or something. Suse doesn't seem to be working out for you.
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Red Hat 7.3 (http://tongue.gif)
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xpozer222222222:
eat
shit
and
die
you are full of it
[ July 10, 2002: Message edited by: sporkme / bob ]
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what the hell is wrong with that thing (thing = XP luser)??? Try to find any other Linux user who has ahd nearly any of these problems. And KDE fixed the memory leak in the quickbrowser about two weeks after it came out. It still took me 15 minutes of using the quickbrowser with KDE 3.0 until it even slowed down and it wouldnt/didnt crash X. I have 96 MB of SD RAM.
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i too get Linux problems nobody else in the world has. i just can'get Perl to work on Linux...seriously.
perl is located at /usr/bin/perl and the shebang line in the files is always #!/ur/bin/perl (or maybe it's !# i don't remember) but trying to load a perl page always brings up "Internal Server Error", that's why is switched to PHP :D
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Windows XP luser is probabally some M$ employee trying to brainwash us, so mabey i should ignore him but what the hell he does speak outa his ass dosn't he?
Whereas the rest of the world seems to be adopting linux and finding it is in fact so stable itz actually a bit hard to crash linux without getting pysical with your box.
My theory would be that he wrongly opted for the expert setup.
People like him do make me sick, and I'd like them all to know that you'r gonna be kicked off this planet. It's not just anti-m$, the whole population will finnally get wise to the monopolys and greedy twats like yourself.
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Don't lie. I've had XP on my machine for months now and it runs like it did when I first installed it.
What reason would he have to lie? He has personal experience with Windows XP going sour. Perhaps you have a different experience, but for christ fucking sakes, if someone says they are having a problem take then at their goddamn word.
It seems like you are overly defensive on the subject as well.
You would also not make a very good IT specialist either...
Some Guy: Uh...hello?
XP Loser: Yes?
Some Guy: Um...I'm having a problem with XP, it says something about...
XP Loser: YOU LIE! Don't lie to me, XP is perfect in every way, and if there is something wrong, it's because you are computer iliterate and a dumbshit in general!
Some Guy: No...seriously, there is a box up on screen that says that Internet Explorer crashed...
XP Loser: Bullshit. And if it did, it's probably becuase you were visiting some Linux website. Don't you know that Linux is a computer virus that tries to elminate XP's market share? How dare you try to introduce a virus into this network. I'll take away your internet access for that buster. Good day.
*click*
God I love doing that...
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an it specialist, would kinda have to be like the solarise admin i know, calm, not a zealot to any os, very experinced in windows and unix/*he doenst' like macs that much, then agian, when you use big iron boxs all day....*/ and be good at making both of them get along together the best that they can.