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Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: X123 on 16 November 2002, 01:22: What the fuck is .net .
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: voidmain on 16 November 2002, 01:30: Is that a question?
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: wm009 on 16 November 2002, 01:35: I think;
XP to .net
is
Win2k to Win2k adv server.

Not 100% sure.
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: KernelPanic on 16 November 2002, 01:51: .net is a TLD -- www.icann.org (http://www.icann.org) should tell you more.
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: voidmain on 16 November 2002, 04:39: Nobody knows what it is. Not even Microsoft. But they are going to rule it's market, whatever that is.
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Stryker on 16 November 2002, 04:51: quote:
Originally posted by The Knife Thrower:
What the fuck is .net .

I think .net (other than the TLD... you know, the microsoft thing) is the idea that you use microsoft passports (Eg: @hotmail.com, @msn.com...) to use for credentials for an application or website. They never actually say but that's all that i've grasped.

(EDIT)
please forgive me for linking to microsoft, this is micosoft's "What is .NET" page.
http://www.microsoft.com/net/basics/ (http://www.microsoft.com/net/basics/)

[ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: Stryker ]
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: TheQuirk on 16 November 2002, 06:53: It's a top-level domain extension, silly!
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 16 November 2002, 06:56: quote:
Originally posted by Stryker:

I think .net (other than the TLD... you know, the microsoft thing) is the idea that you use microsoft passports (Eg: @hotmail.com, @msn.com...) to use for credentials for an application or website. They never actually say but that's all that i've grasped.

Other than the TLD

It's the thing that will kill your privacy.

quote:
use the intruder's IP address to calculate his or her location, improving the chances of locating
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: hm_murdock on 16 November 2002, 14:22: it's what Admiral Firmus Piett, the commander of the Super Star Destroyer Executor in Star Wars used to send transmissions back to his family before he and 100,000 crew aboard his ship were slaughtered by the violent rebels.

You know... the Imperial Holo.net?

Or is it a bunch of guys who carry Zip carts and CD-Rs around to share files?

That is... Sneaker.net?

Or is it just the latest thing that Bill found floating in the septic tank?

As in... Microsoft.net?
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Doctor V on 18 November 2002, 07:04: quote:
Originally posted by The Knife Thrower:
What the fuck is .net .

Microsoft has this new idea that the future of PC use will change dramatically and rather than people having M$ Office and shit on their PCs hard drive, instead they will load it from a network. .net is like a group of M$ programming languages or protocols or somthings like that that are designed more for the implementation of applications in this manner. It has not been widely adopted as of yet.

Note, this is my slightly educated GUESS. Because I don't really know what its all about. I've seen large books written about it, but so far I havn't heard of or seen anything about .net that will actually benefit anyone (other than M$ of course).

V
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Calum on 20 November 2002, 21:10: quote:
Originally posted by The Knife Thrower:
What the fuck is .net .

it's a shoddy and expensive knockoff of this similar service (http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/).
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: theangelofdeath69 on 28 November 2002, 02:37: It is perhaps the worst programming language (or collection of languages) in existence
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Bazoukas on 28 November 2002, 02:48: quote:
Originally posted by Doctor V 0.8.7:

Microsoft has this new idea that the future of PC use will change dramatically and rather than people having M$ Office and shit on their PCs hard drive, instead they will load it from a network. .net is like a group of M$ programming languages or protocols or somthings like that that are designed more for the implementation of applications in this manner. It has not been widely adopted as of yet.

Note, this is my slightly educated GUESS. Because I don't really know what its all about. I've seen large books written about it, but so far I havn't heard of or seen anything about .net that will actually benefit anyone (other than M$ of course).

V

Dude, not even M$ knows exactly what .NET is.
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: TheQuirk on 29 November 2002, 00:16: quote:
Originally posted by Calum: Linux Commando:

it's a shoddy and expensive knockoff of this similar service (http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/).

I'm pretty sure .NET came before .GNU.
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: voidmain on 29 November 2002, 02:11: Quirk, I'm pretty sure this was said tongue in cheek. (http://smile.gif)
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Post by: dot.this on 4 December 2002, 08:26: What is .NET?

Well, it's another one of those remarkable innovations from the wonderful folks at Microsoft. Having seen their success with "vaporware", they have decided to extend the concept. ("Vaporware" is where MS announces that they will release software, but never do, but it still scares away developers, allowing MS to keep its monopoly.)

Thus .NET is a vapor-concept, intended to scare potential competitors away from anything to do with networking, internet, and distributed clients.

MS has to keep the specifics to a minimum, because the more vague it is, the more threatening it is. Once competitors know the specifics of .NET, they can proceed with initiatives that they feel are not threatened by it.

Of course, MS is also vague about .NET because it doesn't exist, as I've already explained.
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Post by: dot.this on 4 December 2002, 22:35: As the site says, .NET ShellServer is "a joke, like Windows RG was".

That's not a MS site. Actually, I don't know what those people are about. I'm not going to download the software to find out.
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Calum on 4 December 2002, 22:49: if you have a version of DOS to run it on you should, it's very funny!
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Calum on 4 December 2002, 22:51: quote:
Originally posted by dot.this:
What is .NET?

Well, it's another one of those remarkable innovations from the wonderful folks at Microsoft. Having seen their success with "vaporware", they have decided to extend the concept. ("Vaporware" is where MS announces that they will release software, but never do, but it still scares away developers, allowing MS to keep its monopoly.)

Thus .NET is a vapor-concept, intended to scare potential competitors away from anything to do with networking, internet, and distributed clients.

MS has to keep the specifics to a minimum, because the more vague it is, the more threatening it is. Once competitors know the specifics of .NET, they can proceed with initiatives that they feel are not threatened by it.

Of course, MS is also vague about .NET because it doesn't exist, as I've already explained.

point taken but obviously some people are not as scared as they should be (http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/).
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: xyle_one on 5 December 2002, 01:27: so, dotnet means we will live in a microsoft world? where the world is run on windows, and all music is from windows media player, and all graphics are done in microsoftPaint, and our lives are at the mercy of KingGates. whereas dotGNU means we live a free world, where we are all "connected", and can use any software we want??
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Post by: voidmain on 5 December 2002, 03:17: Here is a nice little article about .NET and why maybe you should think twice about getting into it:

http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/prasad-28oct01.html (http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/prasad-28oct01.html)
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: DeVryGuy on 5 December 2002, 21:12: .net is sort of a developing ideal. In fact it is the opposite of the Java Approach, one language to many OS, .Net is Many Languages to one OS. Basically let's say you are programming in C# and you get to a part of the program that you don't know how to write in C#, so you write it in VB instead. .Net allows that to work. The idea is programmers can have any area of specialty and work together on the same software project, but those projects will only work on the Windows platform, thus securing Microsoft's position in the market today
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Post by: Calum on 5 December 2002, 21:28: how is it a choice when you are programming in VB OR C#? last time i looked neither of those were real programming languages.

why would somebody be programming in that shit anyway? i think those people deserve to use windows! :D
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Stryker on 6 December 2002, 03:35: quote:
Originally posted by Calum:
how is it a choice when you are programming in VB OR C#? last time i looked neither of those were real programming languages.

why would somebody be programming in that shit anyway? i think those people deserve to use windows! :D

Now that's not fair. I'm making myself a MUD server with vb. I don't deserve to use windows. I wouldn't be if I weren't so far into this project. And I've always found C a bit harder when it comes to databases and socket connections. Never got it (yet, we'll keep hope).

As for what .net is, i'm still going with a TLD.
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: hoshi on 7 December 2002, 00:25: FINALY THE ANSWER!

.net basically turns all programming languages into a microsoft only scripting language.

c++.net
c.net
java.net
perl.net

etc etc.

i think it may have something to do with creating porthole websites where applications like MSword run in your webbrowser
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: choasforages on 8 December 2002, 21:42: if you C#
smoke that shit
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Zootopia3000 on 12 December 2002, 17:36: I would compare .NET to the EEU(European Economic Union). It will take years to implement and by then, in this case, it will be too late 'cause somethin' new(from M$
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Lysis on 13 December 2002, 11:26: .net sucks
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: solo on 30 December 2002, 03:16: .net is having windows messenger pop up at any time microsoft feels you havent been paying enough attention to it, then having windows tell you that it is a vital system service.

.net is partnered to palladium, which we all hate.

.net is the thing that was giving bill gates cramps, so when he got his bed buddy steve ballmer to stick his hand up there and pull it out he found a marketing idea.

microsoft can make .net seem like anything, since their definition is a set of tools.
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: shuffles4 on 31 December 2002, 21:08: My take on what .net is -- just in case Microsoft hasn't put enough bad code on your Windows-running computer with the initial release, with "updates," or with their applications, it's a chance for them to put new buggy-code executables down while you're online, whether you want them or not.

But I certainly agree they're keeping their descriptions as vague as possible to foster FUD. (Something they're very, very good at!)
Title: What the fuck is .net
Post by: Chooco on 31 December 2002, 12:02: .NET is a part of Palladium (which sucks) as well as being a group of programming languages invented by Microsoft which only work on Windows servers. things like C#, ASP and some other things like that are .NET languages. C# is MS's way to try to destroy Java from existance and ASP it to destroy PHP (which will never happen).

.NET is that stupid thing that tries to convince me not to install my scanner. my scanner came with 5 different drivers or so (different languages) so i had to manualy select which language. MS pops up saying "this file is not digital signed!!! continue using it?" and no is highlighted but of course i have to click yes in order to use the friggin scanner. i wonder how many people MS has screwed out of being able to use their Cannon scanner on WindowsXP
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Post by: solo on 1 January 2003, 12:44: i got into an argument about .net just a little while ago. visual studio .net is the set of development languages and tools designed to 'develop on the .net platform' yet the final specifications on .net haven't been released and probably wont be released period. microsoft will probably turn it into something completely different then when they started.