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Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: anphanax on 1 November 2002, 05:45
Thank god I have netscape's composer on my computer(really, I was writing out all my HTML code in NOTEPAD). It has appeared to screw up the spacing in the HTML code itself when opened in notepad, but at least I can use the <TT> tag... This issue with Microsoft also exists in frontpage express 4.x from like 1995\96.. Microsoft has been really quick to add support. I can tell how much they care. I'm just a little annoyed with frontpage.. Doesn't seem like I can trust it to do what I want it to do.

[ October 31, 2002: Message edited by: anphanax ]

Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: voidmain on 1 November 2002, 06:08
VIM is by far the best HTML editor.
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Doctor V on 1 November 2002, 06:12
Frontpage, Notepad...are you by chance using Microsoft Window$?  Shame on you.  Time for a change.

V 0.8.7
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: DJ on 14 November 2002, 03:38
VIM doesn't have a GUI to aide in creating webpages does it? Just curious because I am working on my webpage and I just started learning html so I do know the code for all the functions yet and dreamweaver seems a little complicated for a newb such as myself. Do you have any recommendations for a program that rivals FrontPage? Open Source perhaps? TIA

DJ
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: voidmain on 14 November 2002, 03:45
VIM's syntax highlighting is the only aid I need for creating web pages.
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Calum on 14 November 2002, 03:45
well as to why frontpage doesn't support tt tags, it's because it is actually proprietary netscape extension markup, is it not? or has it been accepted in later versions of html? or am i stupid?

and anphanax, get mozilla composer and openoffice. they are both excellent and free WYSIWYG html editors. both run in windows too, if you really want to continue using that moronic excuse for a system.

engineer, i suggest almost the same thing for you. Use mozilla composer (this just means start up mozilla and select 'composer' from the 'tools' menu i think it is) it is like the dreamweaver part of dreamweaver with all the ultradev stuff stripped away. Once you get used to that (took me about a week) then move onto quanta and bluefish. That's my advice.

[ November 13, 2002: Message edited by: [calum@localhost]$ ]

Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: voidmain on 14 November 2002, 03:49
There are many great HTML references on the net. I posted several of them here in another thread, you might want to search. I would rather have a reference and do my coding in VIM than having a GUI getting in my way and spitting out crappy code. But Quanta Plus is a graphical web site design tool. There was a thread just last night where we went through this. Quanta Plus comes with RedHat 8.0 and probably other distros. Here is the Quanta link:

http://quanta.sourceforge.net/ (http://quanta.sourceforge.net/)
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: DJ on 14 November 2002, 03:55
I guess I got a little ahead of myself I just downloaded Max'sBeauty (sp) and am looking at quanta now, I am the same way as you, even though I don't know too much html yet I want to learn and I have been using the webdesign programs to aid me when I couldn't figure out the code or didn't want to do a Google search. Doing the code by hand and using the program as a reference helps me to learn html better. Thanks for the info.

DJ
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Bazoukas on 20 November 2002, 02:22
http://www.screem.org/ (http://www.screem.org/)

 More or less like frontpage.
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: mobrien_12 on 20 November 2002, 06:32
I love bluefish.

http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/ (http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/)
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Kintaro on 20 November 2002, 13:45
Fuck all yer lovly flashy GUI editors with ther fuckin WYSIWYG because What you see is not what you get when you view the site in Lynx or Links is it.

WYSIWYG's are good for making sites that dont work in other browsers!

VIM IS TEH l33t'st editor in teh whole fucking earth!
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Calum on 20 November 2002, 14:19
bluefish and quanta are not wysiwyg or gui editors, they are XWindows text editors with a lot of fancy 'preview in browser' and 'coulour highlighting' stuff. Screem tries to be the best of both, but is unstable on my computer, so it can leave.
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Kintaro on 20 November 2002, 14:22
I only read the first few mentioned...  VIM IS LEET!
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Bazoukas on 21 November 2002, 07:38
BTW html is easy, why would you need a program to do all the things for you?
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Master of Reality on 21 November 2002, 07:53
quote:
Originally posted by void main:
VIM's syntax highlighting is the only aid I need for creating web pages.

pah, who needs syntax highlighting (other than you)... actually why dont you show us one of the websites  you host void main.
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: voidmain on 21 November 2002, 08:32
Here's one. (http://www.redhat.com/)  (http://smile.gif)
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Kintaro on 21 November 2002, 10:14
Arr harr, my suspissions must be correct!
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Calum on 21 November 2002, 14:34
quote:
Originally posted by void main:
Here's one. (http://www.redhat.com/)   (http://smile.gif)  


that site looks like it was made in frontpage!!!   :eek:    ;)    (http://tongue.gif)   (http://honeybug.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) (http://honeybug.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif)(http://honeybug.com/forums/images/smiles/balloon_w00t.gif)
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Kintaro on 21 November 2002, 14:37
Frontpage did this  ;)  (http://www.polytheism.cjb.net)
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Calum on 21 November 2002, 15:12
oh yeah? well this site was made in microsoft word... (http://www.exeleven.tk/)

actually it looks like it was made on a bit of paper since it's down right now!  :D

also, X11, i think you need to check out www.mesproblem.tk (http://www.mesproblem.tk) right now...
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Kintaro on 22 November 2002, 10:33
h4x0ring j00 p4nts!
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Calum on 22 November 2002, 12:53
<checks p4nts>, nope, they're fine!  :D
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Kintaro on 22 November 2002, 14:33
link to your fucking images, mate. think of all the people on dialup! (http://www.belg88.com/logo.png) you should know better by now...

[ November 22, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Pantso on 22 November 2002, 15:31
HTML is easy and I agree with bazoukas. However a good and open source WYSIWYG editor like Mozilla Composer, can also help by showing you what you have written, let alone the fact that you can switch it to HTML code and work there. As far as simple HTML editors are concerned though, VIM is THE BEST!
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Kintaro on 22 November 2002, 16:55
quote:
Originally posted by X11 / BOB: The croc hunter:
link to your fucking images, mate. think of all the people on dialup! (http://www.belg88.com/logo.png) you should know better by now...

[ November 22, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]


Its a small image, and everybody should visit www.belg88.com (http://www.belg88.com) and have it in there cache already!  ;)
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Calum on 22 November 2002, 22:29
i agree, but we mustn't let our standards slip, must we?
Title: Frontpage doesn't like TT tags
Post by: Kintaro on 23 November 2002, 17:47
Maybe your right but my standards have been against posting screenshots... not images.

Your just being a smartass because you find it ammusing, so your the troll.