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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: Xeen on 25 February 2004, 04:02

Title: Gates introduces new Security Improvements
Post by: Xeen on 25 February 2004, 04:02
Today Billy Gates gave a speech and talked about new developements being made by Microsoft for security.

 
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Microsoft publicly demonstrated a new Windows Security Center for the first time. "It centralizes many security settings previously available in unrelated parts of the system," Gates said.


I wonder how long before this Windows Security Center is found to ironically be unsecure.

 
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Gates urged developers to take advantage of the next version of Visual Studio, Whidbey, to permit users to install and run applications without having to have administrator privileges.


Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldnt that be the most unsecure thing imagineable? Someone please explain that to me.

 
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"Over the last two years, I think we've made a lot of progress," Gates told attendees on Tuesday at the RSA computer security conference in San Francisco, since the company launched its Trustworthy Computing initiative in 2002.


Oh yea, you've definately made a lot of progress over the past two years. So much that last year was probably the worst and most humiliating year of Microsoft's existence. (See here (http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000635))
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The update, has a pop-up window blocker built in


My, and I bet you're gonna call that "innovative". Especially since it took you about two years to do this after every other browser in the world has already done it.

Article 1 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1209&e=4&u=/pcworld/20040224/tc_pcworld/114916&sid=95612683)

Article 2 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1209&e=3&u=/nm/20040224/tc_nm/tech_microsoft_security_dc&sid=95573713)
Title: Gates introduces new Security Improvements
Post by: WMD on 25 February 2004, 06:02
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Gates urged developers to take advantage of the next version of Visual Studio, Whidbey, to permit users to install and run applications without having to have administrator privileges.


Holdon wait...did I hear that right?  :eek:
If BillyG wants a more secure system, he should make it so NO programs can be installed at ALL under a standard user.  (I remember installing games at my school under the student account, because Windoze didn't care)

 
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Microsoft publicly demonstrated a new Windows Security Center for the first time. "It centralizes many security settings previously available in unrelated parts of the system," Gates said.


To be fair, this is probably a good idea.  Although you're probably right about it, xeen.  :D
Title: Gates introduces new Security Improvements
Post by: The Anti-Microsoft on 25 February 2004, 07:51
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Originally posted by xeen:
My, and I bet you're gonna call that "innovative". Especially since it took you about two years to do this after every other browser in the world has already done it.


"Innovative" is used so much by M$ that is should be a trademark or a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation in the U.S. and/or other countires.
Title: Gates introduces new Security Improvements
Post by: mobrien_12 on 25 February 2004, 08:37
In a related vein

XP service pack 2 beta includes a Microsoft Virus Scanner. (http://internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3317211)


Last time I used an MS virus scanner was windows 3.11.  It took some time before I realized it was worse than useles.
Title: Gates introduces new Security Improvements
Post by: mobrien_12 on 25 February 2004, 08:43
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Xeen said
Holdon wait...did I hear that right?  
If BillyG wants a more secure system, he should make it so NO programs can be installed at ALL under a standard user. (I remember installing games at my school under the student account, because Windoze didn't care)


Maybe Longhorn's security model won't suck so bad.

You can "install" your own software in your home directory in Linux and run it.  Because of the security model, the program won't be able to have any more priveledges than the user.  

I know, it's unlikely.  

  :rolleyes:
Title: Gates introduces new Security Improvements
Post by: M51DPS on 25 February 2004, 23:36
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Microsoft publicly demonstrated a new Windows Security Center for the first time. "It centralizes many security settings previously available in unrelated parts of the system," Gates said.


Hey, that's kind of (*cough* EXACTLY *cough*) like how Apple introduced a security preference pane in Panther so that security options are more centralized . . . as though microsoft was copying someone . . . wait a second . . .
Title: Gates introduces new Security Improvements
Post by: SAJChurchey on 26 February 2004, 01:25
So,

If I have Visual Studio, I can write a program as a standard user and install it on the computer.  Hmmm...physical access...quick code...install...run...interesting :-D