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Miscellaneous => Applications => Topic started by: HPC GUY on 21 April 2003, 23:06

Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: HPC GUY on 21 April 2003, 23:06
dont know if its true but someone seems to think its so

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9056 (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9056)
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: Pantso on 21 April 2003, 23:16
Wow! These are serious accusations!   :eek:  I don't mind since I never liked or used Opera, but Opera users should be more than worried!
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: Siplus on 22 April 2003, 02:05
hmm...i hope that isn't true--i love opera!! i just had my friend dl it for me, and i have it installed on every one of my computers. even if it is true, i'll probibly still use opera, at least in linux, because i like the browser so much. i'll just do everything that i need to be secure in Mozilla (online purchases, email with evolution, etc)
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: Canadian Lover on 22 April 2003, 03:09
WOW!  :eek:   I'm glad I'm not using Opera!   :D

[ April 21, 2003: Message edited by: The all Microsoft hater ]

Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: SpeeDFreaK on 22 April 2003, 10:04
Actually Opera isn't that bad. Anytime I'm on win2k and I need to do something that mozilla based browsers can't do, opera is pulled out as a last resort. Damn near anything IE can do, opera can do, only better and with much fewer bugs.
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: Pantso on 22 April 2003, 16:50
quote:
Originally posted by MisteR2:
Actually Opera isn't that bad. Anytime I'm on win2k and I need to do something that mozilla based browsers can't do, opera is pulled out as a last resort. Damn near anything IE can do, opera can do, only better and with much fewer bugs.


Erm, did you read that article? Sorry, but if this were true, then I wouldn't dare go anywhere near Opera, let alone use it! Use Mozilla! It is standards-compliants, propably the only browser that really is, and quite fast and stable!    ;)

[ April 22, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]

Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: slave on 22 April 2003, 18:40
Those in the know use Moz
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: X123 on 22 April 2003, 18:56
Opera sucks ass. You must really think people are stupid to pay for a browser. Now who does that apart from opera *cough* msn *cough*
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: pkd_lives on 22 April 2003, 20:23
Oh please, just another example of the stupidity of people not paying attention and reading licenses and copyright data.

Opera may or may not contain spyware, that is the risk of closed source software, but the function the idiot in that article is describing is not spyware it is adware, and Opera are perfectly clear about this. Clicking on ads will customize what ads you receive, you can even tell them what ads you want to receive by filling in the advertising section of their preferences. They have a privacy policy telling you what they will do with personal data, and they tell you they are going to collect it. If the guy in the article did not know this he did not read the agreements properly, and if he did not read the agreements he is stupid.

This information is stored and dealt with by a libary, hence it looks at that DLL file occasionally. There is nothing covert about this, you agreed to this when you installed the damn program and didn't buy the browser but chose to use it for free.
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: Calum on 22 April 2003, 21:59
well, you get what you don't pay for i reckon, which is why i use mozilla, konqueror, phoenix and epiphany (all free and open source) for web browsing. no spyware, much better stability and security than any of your opera or IE rubbish.
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: Siplus on 23 April 2003, 05:34
hey, opera is stable, whether it's secure or not is in question...
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: HPC GUY on 23 April 2003, 08:34
quote:
Originally posted by Linux Frank:
Oh please, just another example of the stupidity of people not paying attention and reading licenses and copyright data.

Opera may or may not contain spyware, that is the risk of closed source software, but the function the idiot in that article is describing is not spyware it is adware, and Opera are perfectly clear about this. Clicking on ads will customize what ads you receive, you can even tell them what ads you want to receive by filling in the advertising section of their preferences. They have a privacy policy telling you what they will do with personal data, and they tell you they are going to collect it. If the guy in the article did not know this he did not read the agreements properly, and if he did not read the agreements he is stupid.

This information is stored and dealt with by a libary, hence it looks at that DLL file occasionally. There is nothing covert about this, you agreed to this when you installed the damn program and didn't buy the browser but chose to use it for free.



good point, of course people very rarely read the licensing agreement
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: new2linux55 on 23 April 2003, 15:47
Inquirers 'apology', funny in a way:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9078 (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9078)

Reader reactions:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9076 (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9076)

Just goes to show dont always beleve what u read...on the net more so.

Pass the word that the inquirer is a rag !  ;)  

   :D

[ April 23, 2003: Message edited by: new2linux55 ]

Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: HPC GUY on 23 April 2003, 18:52
didnt say i believed it, he just put a strong case behind his accusations
Title: Opera spyware?!
Post by: Pantso on 23 April 2003, 19:07
quote:
Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
Those in the know use Moz


..and any Gecko-based browser.   ;)