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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Hardware => Topic started by: ekan on 3 October 2002, 00:53

Title: Why?!?
Post by: ekan on 3 October 2002, 00:53
When I was 10 year, do I think Microsoft was great!
When I was 14 year, I was starting to think, and then I was hating Microsoft.
And now have they bougth RareWare, something I REALLY HATE! Why? Starfox will be the last game to Gamecube. Thats too bad! I hate it! Hate it!

I will NEVER buy Xbox! And thats just I don't want to pay Microsoft money! Never!

Yeah, thats my meaning! :(
Title: Why?!?
Post by: Master of Reality on 3 October 2002, 00:57
good, good.... what OS do you use?
(if you are using windows, you probly dont want to mention if you pirated it)
Title: Why?!?
Post by: Master of Reality on 3 October 2002, 01:03
hoo, hum.... I see in your profile you use Mac.
well very good, good indeed. room tum room tum roomty tum toom.
Title: Why?!?
Post by: ekan on 3 October 2002, 01:14
Yeah , I use mac! First I thougth to buy a PC with windows, but I change my mind, and I bougth a Mac! Im very satisfied!
Title: Why?!?
Post by: psyjax on 3 October 2002, 02:05
quote:
Originally posted by ekan:
Yeah , I use mac! First I thougth to buy a PC with windows, but I change my mind, and I bougth a Mac! Im very satisfied!


As you you should be!

You are now part of a race of superior human beings!

Welcome to the fold   :D

[ October 02, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

Title: Why?!?
Post by: Pantso on 3 October 2002, 02:17
quote:
Originally posted by ekan:
Yeah , I use mac! First I thougth to buy a PC with windows, but I change my mind, and I bougth a Mac! Im very satisfied!


Great! Now, if you use OSX you'll be even more satisfied!

Macs really rock   :D    :D
Title: Why?!?
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 3 October 2002, 02:23
With regard to the Xbox, don't MS make a loss on those even when they were selling for full price?

In the UK now instead of being
Title: Why?!?
Post by: psyjax on 3 October 2002, 02:48
HA! so 51st state was the UK! Ok i get it now  :D
Title: Why?!?
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 3 October 2002, 03:07
quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
HA! so 51st state was the UK! Ok i get it now   :D  

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Title: Why?!?
Post by: HPC GUY on 3 October 2002, 03:19
well, supposively the deal was M$ buys rare but Donkey kong and starfox stays with nintendo, everything else (perfect dark and etc..) goes to m$.
Title: Why?!?
Post by: Doctor V on 3 October 2002, 06:15
quote:
Originally posted by ekan:
Yeah , I use mac! First I thougth to buy a PC with windows, but I change my mind, and I bougth a Mac! Im very satisfied!


Yes yes, thats very good.  The more people start using windows alternatives, the closer we come to freedom.  

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Title: Why?!?
Post by: Refalm on 3 October 2002, 16:30
Windows ME didn't let you control your own computer much, but you where free to buy Nero Burning ROM and put your mp3's on CD.

Then Windows XP came out. It had more options, letting you think you had more control over your PC.
But that isn't the case at all. If you refuse to pay for a minor operating system (Windows XP), and can't get the right serial code, you are locked out of your own PC after a short period.

And with the update of Windows XP, called "Windows XP SP1", it's made harder for you to burn mp3's, because IMAP which is needed to burn CD-ROM's is disabled. Someone not knowing Windows well, doesn't know how to turn on IMAP. It let's people getting used to the idea of not burning mp3's on CD-ROM's when using Windows XP.

Windows XP 2 will most likely shud down the ability to burn mp3's on a CD-ROM.

AMD and Intel are making TCPA chips right now to disable "unauthorized" programmes. Unauthorized means, something Microsoft doesn't like. You will be running Windows XP, Windows .NET or Windows Longhorn only on the latest AMD and Intel chips.

Conclusion: Everyone who thinks Microsoft is cool, and like to burn CD-ROM's or DVD's should really think twice before thinking "Windows is so cool".

[ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: Refalm ]

Title: Why?!?
Post by: mallowman on 3 October 2002, 23:49
quote:

And now have they bougth RareWare, something I REALLY HATE! Why? Starfox will be the last game to Gamecube. Thats too bad! I hate it! Hate it!
I will NEVER buy Xbox! And thats just I don't want to pay Microsoft money! Never!



Yes agreed...what Microsoft did to Rare affected me persoannly. No more Donkey Kong Country  :( . And yes...I never bought an X-Box. I told my parents no and almost yelled at them for suggesting. I heard a few rumors it has been scratching/damaging CDs. Pffft. The microsoft way!  (http://tongue.gif)
Title: Why?!?
Post by: mobrien_12 on 4 October 2002, 04:54
quote:
Originally posted by Refalm:

And with the update of Windows XP, called "Windows XP SP1", it's made harder for you to burn mp3's, because IMAP which is needed to burn CD-ROM's is disabled. Someone not knowing Windows well, doesn't know how to turn on IMAP. It let's people getting used to the idea of not burning mp3's on CD-ROM's when using Windows XP.
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Two questions:

1) IMAP, as in the mail protocol, or does it also mean something else?

2)  Can you use third party burning software in XP?
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Post by: Zombie9920 on 4 October 2002, 08:28
quote:
Originally posted by M. O'Brien:


Two questions:

1) IMAP, as in the mail protocol, or does it also mean something else?

2)  Can you use third party burning software in XP?



IMAP the CD Burning service(I think it is IMAPI actually). And yes you can use 3rd party programs in XP. I burn MP3 and Audio CD's(from MP3's) all the time with Nero Burning Rom. You can use Easy CD Creator 5 and any other 3rd party burning progrm in XP too. XP SP1 does not disable CD burning services.


Once again people make untrue statements about Windows.  :rolleyes:
Title: Why?!?
Post by: voidmain on 4 October 2002, 08:55
Q) And why would it need IMAPI (Instant Messenger API)?

A) To send messages directly to Microsoft every time you burn a pirated copy of XP!  (http://smile.gif)
Title: Why?!?
Post by: lazygamer on 4 October 2002, 10:48
quote:
Yes agreed...what Microsoft did to Rare affected me persoannly. No more Donkey Kong Country . And yes...I never bought an X-Box. I told my parents no and almost yelled at them for suggesting. I heard a few rumors it has been scratching/damaging CDs. Pffft. The microsoft way!


LOL! Good for you. Luckily it sounds like you have parents who don't mind buying their son games.  (http://smile.gif)
Title: Why?!?
Post by: Refalm on 5 October 2002, 00:54
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IMAP the CD Burning service(I think it is IMAPI actually). And yes you can use 3rd party programs in XP. I burn MP3 and Audio CD's(from MP3's) all the time with Nero Burning Rom. You can use Easy CD Creator 5 and any other 3rd party burning progrm in XP too. XP SP1 does not disable CD burning services.


Yeah it was IMAPI actually... sorry for that...

Some people I know couldn't burn a CD-ROM after installing Windows XP SP 1. They ran Services (Windows key+R, type services.msc) and saw that IMAPI was disabled... many people I know draw the conclusion that SP 1 caused this.
Title: Why?!?
Post by: Refalm on 5 October 2002, 01:05
quote:
M. O'Brien: Can you use third party burning software in XP?


Yes... I didn't say you couldn't...

However, maybe Microsoft will block third party burning software in Windows XP 2, Windows .NET and/or Windows Longhorn... this is made possible with the DMCA and TCPA.

How would they do it:
They use the DMCA to make a statement that third party burning software stimulates people to burn "illegal" (it wasn't illegal, until the DMCA showd up. there was a law that makes it legal to share music... now isn't that what p2p's do?) CD-ROM's.

They use the TCPA to block Nero burning ROM, Clony XL, Easy CD Creator etc. because they say it's "unauthorized software".
Title: Why?!?
Post by: mael on 5 October 2002, 08:28
I'm really not sure why people are getting so huffy-puffy about this rare thing.  I admit, at first I was pissed, and I sat in a slump for a couple of days until I realized a few things.  

1.) Nintendo was the one that decided against the contract with rare, and for good reason too.  Quite simply, rare has been losing money for Nintendo for the last few years, steadily decreasing.  Nintendo sold their 49% to microsoft (who had the highest bid).

2.) MOST of Rare has split off in some form to work with other groups.  Take for example Free Radical who is second party to Eidos and makes a game called "Timesplitters 2".  Most of the GE (golden eye to you video game illiterates)/PD (Perfect Dark) team left and started the new company.  Another company is called Zoonami, and thus far has committed full support to Nintendo.  So far they have made one game for the system and are in works to make a FPS as well, exclusive.

3.) Has anyone played Star fox adventures?  I bought it and took it back 3 days later because, quite honestly, I found it to be one of the more boring games I've played to date on my gamecube.  I don't know why people are giving it hype.  Outside of the incredible visuals, the game is hugely linear, and, from what I found, you spend the entire game finding object A to open door B.  There was no "adventure", and the exploration sucked ass.

Now, why would microsoft pick up a company like this?  Popularity.  Rare WAS something great at one time, but part of that greatness was due to Nintendo for allowing literally 1 and 2 year delays, and personal help from Shigeru Miyatomos EAD staff.  I doubt very strongly Microsoft is going to give that kind of time and we all know the kind of games Microsoft create.  Back to the point though.. I think Microsoft bought Rare to show the gaming comunity that they are the "new thing", and that they mean business.  I feel sorry for those who think that Nintendo is now doomed, and Rare is still a good company.

Rest In Peace Rare.  Good luck with a has been company microsoft.
Title: Why?!?
Post by: mael on 7 October 2002, 04:11
I just thought I'd show this little tidbit I found at the rareware site:

"   The paths may change, but the destination remains the same as Rare continues its search for up-and-coming talent to join us in exploring these latest creative opportunities. If you think you've got something worthwhile to offer, take a look at the positions for which we're currently hiring.

VACANCIES

GAMES PROGRAMMERS
   Required to produce cutting-edge software for Microsoft Xbox and future hardware. Skills in Assembler, C or C++ required. Send your CV/ resum
Title: Why?!?
Post by: cozzer on 8 October 2002, 14:49
quote:
Originally posted by mallowman:


 I heard a few rumors it has been scratching/damaging CDs. Pffft. The microsoft way!   (http://tongue.gif)  



It doesn't scratch discs and if it does, the game remains playable. As I do have an xbox i think I have the right to tell you so.
Title: Why?!?
Post by: mael on 9 October 2002, 15:59
quote:
Originally posted by cozzer:


As I do have an xbox i think I have the right to tell you so.



Well yippy skippy.
Title: Why?!?
Post by: Calum on 9 October 2002, 16:14
quote:
cozzer:

It doesn't scratch discs and if it does, the game remains playable.
you don't know what you are talking about do you? how can you say the game remains playable if the xbox scratches disks if it doesn't scratch disks??? For you to "know" that this was the case, your xbox would have had to have scratched at least one disk which thereafter remained playable, or you would not be able to make this assertion in good faith. If this was the case, then your FIRST statement was a big fat lie!  :D  
quote:
As I do have an xbox i think I have the right to tell you so.

you would have that right anyway. this forum is dedicated to free speech.

 
quote:
rare:

VACANCIES

GAMES PROGRAMMERS
Required to produce cutting-edge software for Microsoft Xbox and future hardware. Skills in Assembler, C or C++ required. Send your CV/ resum