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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Devillion on 18 April 2004, 08:02

Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: Devillion on 18 April 2004, 08:02: I downloaded a .rpm of "LiVES"

After it kpackage crashed my computer a few times while trying to install the .rpm file, i decided to do an "alien" and convert it to ".deb"

So now i have the file in ".deb" format.

I do a standard dpkg on the file, and it says that the package has been installed.

When i check the status, it says that it is-

root@libranet:/home/mike# dpkg -s LiVES
Package: lives
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: alien
Installed-Size: 775
Maintainer: root <root@localhost>
Version: 0.8.5-2
Description: The Linux Video Editing System
LiVES (the Linux Video Editing System) is a simple to use, yet powerful
video effects and editing system. It uses commonly available tools (mplayer,
ImageMagick, and GTK+, so it should work on most Linux systems.
.
(Converted from a rpm package by alien.)

But i cant find the application. Anywhere. Where the heck is it?

[ April 17, 2004: Message edited by: Devillion ]

[ April 17, 2004: Message edited by: Devillion ]
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: insomnia on 18 April 2004, 20:46: Ask your system.
As root:
find / -name "*name*"
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: Devillion on 20 April 2004, 03:25: >> Nothing found. I swear i installed the package, and the status says so too. But i still cant find it!
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: insomnia on 20 April 2004, 04:46: quote:
Originally posted by Devillion:
>> Nothing found. I swear i installed the package, and the status says so too. But i still cant find it!

Their are more functions for find.

For info type:
man find

you could look for it's size...

PS: Does it start?( type lives )

[ April 19, 2004: Message edited by: insomnia ]
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: Devillion on 21 April 2004, 03:37: Yea, i tried to run it under all the names i could think of (ie lives LiVES lives-0.8.5 etc etc).

And i tried the find options, the ones that would've helped, and nothing was found.

wtf?
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: insomnia on 21 April 2004, 05:28: quote:
Originally posted by Devillion:
Yea, i tried to run it under all the names i could think of (ie lives LiVES lives-0.8.5 etc etc).

And i tried the find options, the ones that would've helped, and nothing was found.

wtf?

Alien isn't perfect.
Debian is working on a .deb, but their seems to be a bug in LiVES.

Building it from a tar isn't that hard.

Be sure you have these package installed(also for a binarie):

mplayer 0.90rc1+
mencoder with libavcodec (required for saving only)
ImageMagick 5
perl 5+
gtk+ 2.x
libjpeg62
gdk-pixbuf-loaders

sox (recommended)
transcode (recommended)

xmms (optional)
cdda2wav (optional)

Download this:
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esalsaman/lives/current/LiVES-0.9.0-pre1-bin.tar.bz2 (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esalsaman/lives/current/LiVES-0.9.0-pre1-bin.tar.bz2)

Unzip it and follow these instructions:

http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esalsaman/lives/README (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esalsaman/lives/README)
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: hm_murdock on 21 April 2004, 06:38: http://komodolinux.org (http://komodolinux.org)

http://cthulos.sourceforge.net (http://cthulos.sourceforge.net)
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: WMD on 21 April 2004, 21:27: ^ You forgot the "COME TO ERUDITION" part. (http://tongue.gif)
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: Refalm on 22 April 2004, 01:32: quote:
Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
http://komodolinux.org (http://komodolinux.org)

http://cthulos.sourceforge.net (http://cthulos.sourceforge.net)

So, you're saying that Komodo will include ALL the plugins you'll ever need? (SDL, SDL_perl, DivX, XVid, Flash, ffdshow, etc.)
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: hm_murdock on 22 April 2004, 04:11: No, I hit "add reply" before I was done because I was heading out the door... let me clarify.

Bundles.

The way things should be done. An app's bundle should include everything needed for it to run. If standard, OS-packaged APIs are lacking something, then whatever else is req'd will be included in the bundle. That way, you manipulate it as a single object, rather than a nebulous misting of files that get spewed all over the HD.

(http://jimmyjames.sytes.net/media/bundvscrap.jpg)

Tell me which looks better. Understandable names with descriptive icons, or faceless things with undecipherable codes for names?

I choose something real and good. I choose bundles.

Bundles will replace the way you install software in Linux because they're better. Hands-down they're a better idea, and implemented right, they'll be one factor that makes Linux *better* than Windows.

Remember, being "as good" won't cut it.

Linux has to be QUALITATIVELY AND QUANTITATIVELY BETTER BEFORE PEOPLE WILL NOTICE.

PS I forgot to add, that bundles allow you to do something that's apparently pretty difficult to do, even with current so-called "package management" apps.

REMOVE SOFTWARE EASILY.

You remove it as easily as you installed it.

Drag-and-drop. Just remove the bundle and the app is gone.

That IS easy!

[ April 21, 2004: Message edited by: JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder ]
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: billy_gates on 22 April 2004, 05:00: weeeeeee!!!
LINUX IS FUN
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: WMD on 22 April 2004, 06:39: I'd love it if Linux could act like Mac OS7 regarding software install/uninstall. Especially since files then won't get thrown all over the place in mass quantities.
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: hm_murdock on 22 April 2004, 07:23: That's the thing... bundles are even better than the way the classic Mac OS did things. There were still instances in which an installer would be needed, because some extensions or control panels would have to be installed. Things like that.

Now, a true bundle wouldn't need that. It would just be there, you'd put it where you want it, and go on with your life.
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: salsaman on 9 June 2004, 08:11: Hi, I am the author of LiVES. I see you are having trouble getting started. To start LiVES, you should type "lives-exe" from a command line. I hope this helps.

Salsaman.

http://lives.sourceforge.net (http://lives.sourceforge.net)
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: flap on 9 June 2004, 15:13: quote:
Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
Bundles.

The way things should be done. An app's bundle should include everything needed for it to run. If standard, OS-packaged APIs are lacking something, then whatever else is req'd will be included in the bundle. That way, you manipulate it as a single object, rather than a nebulous misting of files that get spewed all over the HD.

So LiVES should be packaged with all of the following?

mplayer 0.90rc1+ compiled with jpeg support
ImageMagick 5
perl 5+
gtk+ 2.x
libjpeg62
gdk-pixbuf-loaders
sox

[ June 09, 2004: Message edited by: flap ]
Title: missing app after dkpg .deb
Post by: Refalm on 9 June 2004, 18:45: quote:
JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder: Bundles.

Not everyone has dual 160 GB hard disk.
Bundling programs into the program is a stupid idea.
However, Mandrake Linux has some kind of RPM checker which automatically downloads and installs the programs you require for that RPM.