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Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: Zombie9920 on 24 October 2002, 21:35
http://www.sys-con.com/xml/articlenews.cfm?id=513 (http://www.sys-con.com/xml/articlenews.cfm?id=513)
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: voidmain on 24 October 2002, 22:12
We can only hope that they use XML "standards" for their default file formats. If they do, we will no longer have anything to complain about, and finally other Office systems (OpenOffice) will be able to read Microsoft files perfectly. My experiences with Microsoft in the past tells me that they will somehow muck with the XML standard and proprietize it in some way that will continue to make compatibility impossible. Maybe like embedded binary within the XML? We'll just have to wait and see...
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 24 October 2002, 22:26
If there is some standards agency over seeing the XML standard (just lke Philips over see's the CD format)then they could disallow any redesign in the format unless MS has bought them?

I hope they leave the XML format well alone as well, then the road is alot easier for my favourite office package, that being OpenOffice.
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: Calum on 24 October 2002, 22:43
Sony oversees the CD's miriad formats.
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: voidmain on 24 October 2002, 22:50
Why should M$ start caring what standards agencies think?  They never have in the past. One of the thousands of examples is HTML. Do they do a good job at sticking to W3C standards?  I believe W3C is also in charge of XML:

http://www.w3.org/XML/ (http://www.w3.org/XML/)
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: KernelPanic on 24 October 2002, 23:05
quote:
Originally posted by void main:
Why should M$ start caring what standards agencies think?  They never have in the past. One of the thousands of examples is HTML. Do they do a good job at sticking to W3C standards?  I believe W3C is also in charge of XML:

http://www.w3.org/XML/ (http://www.w3.org/XML/)


HTML is a branch of XML.
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: voidmain on 24 October 2002, 23:22
quote:
Originally posted by Tux:


HTML is a branch of XML.


Well that is the goal with the advent of XHTML. HTML has been around a lot longer than XML and both are derivatives of SGML. It seems to me that they want to do away with HTML and have everything be XML.
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 24 October 2002, 23:30
quote:
Originally posted by Calum:
Sony oversees the CD's miriad formats.


I was told otherwise because it was philips that recently spoke out saying you shouldn't have copy protection on the cd otherwise it shouldn't be called a compact disc.  They are supposedly the CD's custiodians.

Are you sure you are not thinking of sony's minidisc?
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: KernelPanic on 24 October 2002, 23:56
quote:
Originally posted by void main:


Well that is the goal with the advent of XHTML. HTML has been around a lot longer than XML and both are derivatives of SGML. It seems to me that they want to do away with HTML and have everything be XML.


I was close enough not te feel stupid  ;)
Title: Co-Inventor of XML Says Office 11 is "A Huge Step Forward for Microsoft"
Post by: mobrien_12 on 26 October 2002, 22:40
quote:
Originally posted by Crunchy(Cracked)Butter:


I was told otherwise because it was philips that recently spoke out saying you shouldn't have copy protection on the cd otherwise it shouldn't be called a compact disc.  They are supposedly the CD's custiodians.

Are you sure you are not thinking of sony's minidisc?


I'm pretty sure you are right.  Sony is the one who has been developing this copy protected CD bull#$&*.