Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Calum on 15 January 2003, 21:33
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look here!!!!111oneone (http://www.otakuforums.com/index.php?s=49b06b01673c837ae4e1cc7c2e21c9d1&act=ST&f=24&t=28194&st=15)
some windoids seem to be under the impression they can find some windows viruses that will screw up my computer!!!
so what i will do is get that apt-get thing for mandrake and patch it up to date so it's all nice new versions of the software and then i will run all the viruses as normal users and see what they do. I am very very interested in what these guys might come up with! they seem to be quite confident they can come up with some linux viruses!
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*gasp* you like anime!!!
Jeezus, Calum is a freakin Otaku! Who would have guessed...
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actually i just go there for the windoids to be honest. i only ever visit the 'General' and 'Computer Talk' forums. they had one recently called 'Bill Gates is shit' which i posted a few times in... gets a bit boring though under such a sheer onslaught of windoids...
thing is though you get more leeway to say stuff than at, say, www.windowsBS.com (http://www.windowsBS.com)
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there was one virus, i think it was called slapper. and it affected apache
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Not a virus!
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Originally posted by void main:
Not a virus!
It was a worm right?
Viri have to be autonomous.
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Yeah, it's really sad how the virus vendors have twisted the term "virus" to mean more than what it really does. I have yet to witness or know anyone who has witnessed a "true" virus on any *NIX system. A virus would certainly be somewhat effective on a specific flavor of UNIX or Linux (the binaries have to be capable of running on the operating system in question and you can't just take Linux binaries and run them in Solaris etc).
That is, if everyone executed said virus as "root" but most UNIX systems discourage using root for normal user activities. It was a default in Lindows but I beleive they have changed that way of thinking with all the hammering they got. And some OSX people here have mentioned they always log in as root. A binary executable file (doesn't actually have to be binary) when executed by a user or administrator typically searches out other executable files and embeds itself into those executable files. So when the other executable files are executed by someone it again searches out more files to infect.
In a normal UNIX environement people don't have write access to any of the system executeable files therefore can not spread. So if it continues to be a small number of users that log on to their systems as root there really isn't much of a chance for a virus to go anywhere. And of course it would not have the ability to infect all *NIX operating systems, only the operating systems that it was compiled for.
The big difference between *NIX and DOS/Windows is in *NIX security is important (especially local/user security). In Windows it isn't (actually it is, but Microsoft doesn't understand that).
[ January 15, 2003: Message edited by: void main ]
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and of course Otaku is using httpd on *NIX and uses mySQL
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that means nothing to the morons. these are people who probably use apache as servers on their windows machines.
anyway, i'll be keeping you posted here if they ever come up with a virus, i will certainly be giving it a fair shot as a normal user.