Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Bazoukas on 11 September 2002, 21:26
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I am taking an intro class that i should have taken a long time ago, and they want us to make a PP presentation.
My topic of course is about Linux Vs Windows.
I already downloaded some cool pics and found some sites that talk about Linux security Vs Ms security.
Got any more links guys?
I wanna knock them dead.
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Originally posted by bazoukas:
I am taking an intro class that i should have taken a long time ago, and they want us to make a PP presentation.
My topic of course is about Linux Vs Windows.
I already downloaded some cool pics and found some sites that talk about Linux security Vs Ms security.
Got any more links guys?
I wanna knock them dead.
How about making a section about how the school should switch from Power Point to an OpenOffice/Sun Office presentation program?
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You know what. I was thinking of that just now.
And I will check now and see if PP and Kpresenter play together. If they do am gonna make my presentation on Kpresenter.
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they dont play well together. Maybe another office suite can do that, but i only have Kpresenter on. Which it looks very damn cool from what i can tell.
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hey im doing the same thing, in my advanced graphics class. and really, if they switched from word to oo, it would confuse all the idiots at the school. and since i know more then the whole collective of I.T. there, it wouldn't happen
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i reckon if they were confused, it would show how confused they really were. any fool can use openoffice that can use Microsoft or star offices...
as for powerpoint, as far as i have seen openoffice is totally compatible with it filewise.
X11 once sent me a file he had made in openoffice, and it ran fine in M$ powerpoint for macOS9 so there you go.
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I totally agree with Calum. M$ Office apps are still compatible with StarOffice or OpenOffice.org filewise. However, as I've read in LXF magazine once, it is very possible that the next version of M$ Office will use incompatible file extensions with any other OS :mad: ! I really hope this won't happen since I still have to edit Word documents in StarOffice. You see, not everyone uses Linux or other *UNIX type OSes. We seem to be the exception to the rule ;)
PS. Hey bazoukas, knock them dead man! Skistous tous malakes. Mathe tous kai kati allo ektos apo Windoze! Good luck man!
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mas exoun priksei ta paparia pantso.
Exo ena kathigiti pou lei oti oi Europaioi eine pio brosta sto programatismo giati aploustata de xrisimopoioun Windows.
Mas exei priksei ta arxidia o malakotriftis o Bill Gates edo pera.
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Ase file mou ki edo ta idia kai xeirotera! Na skefteis oti ta 3/4 den kseroun ti tha pei Linux! Nomizoun oti einai kapoio paixnidaki! eftixos yparxoun kai Ellhnes xrhstes Linux! Koita edo:
http://www.linux.gr (http://www.linux.gr)
kai edo:
http://www.hellug.gr (http://www.hellug.gr)
Na sou po kai ta kal nea! Balane Linux sta sxoleia.To pisteveis? Logo kostous vevaia, etsi?
Kalh sou tyxh me thn ergasia file mou! To ellhniko myalo panta yperexei!
[ September 11, 2002: Message edited by: Pantso ]
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hey! computer people are supposed to be geeks, not greeks!
re: M$' closed file formats, hah! the M$ office format constantly runs away from people who try to open it up, and those people keep on chasing after it. This has happened before, with the seminal office utilities that used to come with windows 2 and 3. try opening up an old .doc file from windows 2 with a copy of word 2000 for instance!
Now Microsoft could have it one of two ways, if they insist on beginning a totally new line of file types:
1) they could allow users to pick "save as... old" or "save as... new" when saving. they would also put a bunch of dialogue boxes saying how you could lose a lot of functionality if you choose old, and i bet that fucking paper clip will have something to say about it too.
2) they could just allow the new file format and that's it.
Now, to discuss. With option one many users will choose "old" because many users still have pre XP versions of windows and pre XP versions of office and so on. Most company images are windows 2000 or windows 98 or even windows 95. So what would be the point in "save as... new" when the minute you have saved the document, you cannot send it to anybody and it is unreadable to any machine except the one you are currently using?
with option two, this problem is the same, however the choice will no loner be there, forcing users to save in a file format they did not ask for and do not need.
Now add to the mix the fact that Microsoft applications are no longer 'products', they are now 'services'. And you know what that means? it means that you do not pay for them once, you lease them per quarter.
So people will take one look at this new office suite and realise that it has no new functions that their old one did not have EXCEPT the fact that
a) it is no longer compatible with the "standard"
b) it now costs a shitload more if you want to use it for any length of time
c) it will be an administrative headache when it comes to auditing the licences
So my feeling is that Microsoft thinks it is invincible, but that this time it will find out it has bitten off more than it can chew. Users and admins are NOT as gullible as they perhaps were ten, fifteen years ago.
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Originally posted by Calum:
hey! computer people are supposed to be geeks, not greeks!
:D . I told bazoukas something that I think everybody should know. Here in Greece they use Linux in schools! It's not a joke! Of course they do it for value for money reasons but who cares? And guess what? Kids really love it! I think they use SuSeE Linux because of the better support for Greek.
You're correct about the close file format issue ;)
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I have no idea what it means ... but this is a beautifull word:
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xrisimopoioun
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It means "they use" ;)
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there's a ton of good ones! look: (translations provided)
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Originally posted by Pantso:
xeirotera
These are mythical beasts which will appear just before the end of the world. quote:
skefteis
These are a kind of bird, similar to vultures, that live on carrion. quote:
paixnidaki!
Not sure, but it sounds a little racist(!) quote:
eftixos yparxoun
yparxuon is a herbal cough medicine. This particular type is made by 'Eftixos', a famous greek apothecary. quote:
xrhstes
Just pantso clearing his throat. quote:
Koita
Greek for sex. quote:
sxoleia
A disease which you might contract if you indulge in a lot of Koita. quote:
pisteveis?
A traditional type of Greek beer, made from oats, yoghurt and olives. Usually it is approximately 48% alcohol. quote:
tyxh
An early '80s computer game. quote:
ergasia
The land of milk and honey in Greek mythology. quote:
panta yperexei!
A jolly old man who travels around on a camel on the 13th of December handing out presents and symbolic olive branches to all the children.
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LoL! No more please! i think i'll burst! :D :D :D :D
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AHAHAAHAAHAHAAHAAH Calum!
I did not realize that you were cunning-lingual.
GOT A GOOD ONE FOR THE POWERPOINT RANGERS TO TRY
Using the latest and greatest version of PowerPoint, try inserting a specified 3 minute DVD selection into your presentation.....you know, where you have the DVD in your box and you tell PowerPoint to play that selection when it gets to a specified slide. It must be a clip longer that 1 1/2 minutes. (Lets say it's a DVD clip that you burned from your sister's Prom video, or something like that.)
You would think that this should work without having to convert the clip into some other format.....you know....just have it play the specified selection from your onboard DVD player.
Please let me know when you get to the point of pulling your hair out, or if you actually made it work.
Can OpenOffice or StarOffice do this successfully. I would love to know.
Cheers and Beers
Sleeping Dog
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well i once made a powerpoint presentation containing a normal 30 second mpeg clip and it would only work in windows/powerpoint97. would not work in powerpoint 2000 or openoffice.org 1.0
not entirely compatible then, even with itself.
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One of my clients paid Microslut 35 bucks for their so-called "Help Line" to get this PowerPoint DVD question answered. They were told that this was a "professional" question and it would cost 250 bucks for help in resolving it. Sounds to me like Microsoft generates additional revenue by sabotaging their own products.
Sleeping Dog
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Calum.
i just saw it and i cant stop laughingLOLOLOLOL
Dont mind me. i havent been to greece for 7 years now, so its kinda nice sometimes to tpe in greek (http://smile.gif) i promise i wont do it often (http://smile.gif)
BTW any of you guys want to see my PP presentation?
It kicks ass.
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Originally posted by bazoukas:
BTW any of you guys want to see my PP presentation?
It kicks ass.
oh well no in that case, if it kicks ass! i only want to see it if it SUCKS!!! :D
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Originally posted by bazoukas:
BTW any of you guys want to see my PP presentation?
It kicks ass.
I would like to see it. And you mentioned that it didn't work with kpresenter which is a "KOffice" app. Well how about with OpenOffice (simpress)? I use it to open PPT files all the time...
If you feel froggy and are willing to email it to me you can email it to me at my linuxmail.org address. I'm "voidmain" at (@) that mail server.
[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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excellemunto :D
I am at class now, when I go at home later the afternnon i will email it to you VoidMan.
I Downladed Open Office but I had a problem with a cliper lib i think, and i didnt have time to search for it with midterms and all that.
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me too bazoukas:
tux@(REMOVETHIS)mesclan.tk
(http://RUNArena.com/cgi-bin/ra?id=masterofreality)
[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]
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I'd love to see it too! I'll PM you with my e-mail address ;) . Keep it so that we can keep in touch later (http://smile.gif)
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well i would like to see it too, if that's okay, i was just being sarcastic there. if you don't mind, pls also email to calum @ linuxmail.org (http://mailto:calum-@_linuxmail.org) please!
(i don't mind posting my email address since if anybody sends me SPAM, i'll just block their email address...)
[ October 05, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]
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If you cleverly post your email address you will only get spammed by people reading the forum. If you post you email in tact it will be grabbed by the spam bots and you'll never be able to keep up...
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http://www.monkeys.com/wpoison/ (http://www.monkeys.com/wpoison/)
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Good link RRS! It would be cool if every web server ran a copy of that. I might just write my own version...
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sending your email in a pm (still not in a real format) would stop anyone but the person you sent it to from emailing you.
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holy shit... i just looked at Wpoison, i am gonna put that shit on my webserver.
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Originally posted by void main:
If you cleverly post your email address you will only get spammed by people reading the forum. If you post you email in tact it will be grabbed by the spam bots and you'll never be able to keep up...
hmm, very valid point. well i've changed it now so it has spaces, and so far i have got no spam, so that's okay.
anyway, i found that if you try to post a mailto: using the [url] tag, it just turns it into a dud http:// link anyway, so you'd get a blank browser window, a 404, or a dns error if you clicked on my email address back there.
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i just looked at that wpoison thing. very smart. simple but effective.
i liked this, on their web page! :
(http://www.monkeys.com/images/acomputer.gif)
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bazoukas, outstanding work on that presentation! I like it. It worked very good in OpenOffice, will check it out later in Powerpoint to see if there are any display differences. But even over my Linux terminal server session it looked great! Excellent work!
P.S. Did you get the $40 from each of the students?
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Thanks VoidMan. :D I wanted, you to see it 1st in case i had goofed off somewhere.
They said they will give $40 dollars in Mickey Mouse money :( :( .
Well since you liked then i feel safe to post the linky for the other guys here.
Remember though the original assignemnt was to create a
powerpoint presentation if i was to run for president of my college.
But I managed to take it towards the Linux direction (http://smile.gif)
I will be redoing the presentation though and give it as an official proposal.
Presentation (http://home.attbi.com/~gmastrokostas/misc/George_Mastrokostas.ppt)
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btw, i am not gonna give the ppt as an official presenation to run for president. Just in case i get missunderstood. The proposal will be focused on Linux alone
oh yeah and bump for the morning shift te he he he