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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: SameBrian on 19 January 2004, 11:54

Title: Newb question
Post by: SameBrian on 19 January 2004, 11:54
I have just bought a new HDD so I thought it would be cool to run a dual boot of XP and ??? (I can't go full to Linux because my computer is shared with my family.

I just have a few questions.

What would be a good newbie linux (I'm dling Mandrake as I write this, but if there is a better one tell me), preferrable free for now.

Also, if I install linux will it be able to recognize an NTFS partition (not to install on, but just to store files) because for now I only alloted 10GB for Mandrake to install on (if that's too small please warn me soon).

Anyway I think that's it for now...
Title: Newb question
Post by: skyman8081 on 19 January 2004, 14:11
Mandrake is very good for people who are new to linux.

Linux CAN read NTFS but not write to it naitively.

due to Microsoft not realeasing the technical details

there is an NTFS driver that is actually a driver wrapper for the windows driver file "ntfs.sys"

http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ (http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/)
Title: Newb question
Post by: preacher on 19 January 2004, 23:45
quote:
Originally posted by root@localhost / BOB:
Mandrake is very good for people who are new to linux.

Linux CAN read NTFS but not write to it naitively.

due to Microsoft not realeasing the technical details

there is an NTFS driver that is actually a driver wrapper for the windows driver file "ntfs.sys"

http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ (http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/)




I might be wrong, but I thought that using Samba, you could write to an NTFS partition.
Title: Newb question
Post by: shuiend on 20 January 2004, 00:16
No Samba shows windows share files. You need a windows computer running that is charing files or folders for samba to see. If you dual boot and are in linux then sanba cant see anything b/c windows isnt running and sharing anything
Title: Newb question
Post by: insomnia on 20 January 2004, 06:09
Something good, easy and very compatible with XP is SuSE 9 .
But u do have to install it from FTP...(or buy it)
http://www.suse.com/us/index.html (http://www.suse.com/us/index.html)

Also think about the many Debian like distro's...(some of them have a very easy installer)
http://www.debian.org/misc/children-distros (http://www.debian.org/misc/children-distros)

IMO, Mandrake is bloat...

U could also try Fedora/Redhat.
http://fedora.redhat.com/ (http://fedora.redhat.com/)
Title: Newb question
Post by: insomnia on 20 January 2004, 06:29
quote:
Originally posted by wild_jester / BOB:
No Samba shows windows share files. You need a windows computer running that is charing files or folders for samba to see. If you dual boot and are in linux then sanba cant see anything b/c windows isnt running and sharing anything


That's why u need to install samba on both...

   
quote:
Linux CAN read NTFS but not write to it naitively.


It can.
U could install it on a fat or NTFS partition(they both suck!).

 
quote:
will it be able to recognize an NTFS partition (not to install on, but just to store files)


YES!   ;)

[ January 19, 2004: Message edited by: insomnia ]

Title: Newb question
Post by: Siplus on 20 January 2004, 07:05
i have not downloaded Fedora core 1, so i can't coment about that, however i started out using Redhat 8, and soon after bought a boxed-copy of Redhat 9.

i was just starting out with linux about a year and a half ago, and redhat was extremely easy to get used to. after the first week in the redhat bluecurve GNOME desktop i felt a loss when i was running windows. it is soo customizable, configurable, and user-friendly (although overwhelming at first).

if you have any questions about using any distro of linux, please ask!

also...i just thought about it...

you said you made a 10gb partition for your linux install? you might want to think about makeing at least a 500mb partition for your swap partition.
Title: Newb question
Post by: SameBrian on 20 January 2004, 11:02
I have decided to go with Mandrake...


Swap partition?

[ January 20, 2004: Message edited by: SameBrian ]

Title: Newb question
Post by: xyle_one on 20 January 2004, 14:20
mandrake will be able to see, mount, read, and write to your windows drives. In fact, I installed 9.1 today (Part of the "desktop' challenge i got myself into), and i was able to mount my windows drive (dual boot) and write to it. Easy.

It is running like a champ. Very responsive.
Title: Newb question
Post by: Refalm on 20 January 2004, 16:35
Mandrake is great for newbies. It has all the right programs and it does everything automatically, including dual boot.
Title: Newb question
Post by: SameBrian on 21 January 2004, 04:52
quote:
Originally posted by Ecsyle...:
mandrake will be able to see, mount, read, and write to your windows drives. In fact, I installed 9.1 today (Part of the "desktop' challenge i got myself into), and i was able to mount my windows drive (dual boot) and write to it. Easy.

It is running like a champ. Very responsive.



umm... <--newb
Title: Newb question
Post by: flap on 21 January 2004, 05:10
Do you want to know what a swap partition is?
http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node81.html (http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node81.html)
Title: Newb question
Post by: SameBrian on 21 January 2004, 10:35
Okay something happened...the last thing I remember changing was I set XP as the primary boot (so my family doesn't get pissy) and now I don't get the GUI anymore...it just boots to a prompt screen where I can login and stuff but I can't really do anything like suft the net..just view what's on my desktop and in my documents...

How do I fix this?
Title: Newb question
Post by: flap on 21 January 2004, 17:53
Which of the two operating systems are you talking about? And what do you mean by not being able to surf the net? You can't start a browser, or you have no internet connection, what?
Title: Newb question
Post by: SameBrian on 22 January 2004, 04:46
What I mean is that when I run Mandrake I don't get an option to start with KDE or whatever else is installed...it just goes to a prompt screen where I can login but it's all just text....and by suft the net I mean that I can't launch any web browsers (ie. last time I checked, there aren't any web browsers that support text only surfing)

Anyway my friend told me I should type startx to get my GUI up and running...my question is why did this problem happen in the first place?
Title: Newb question
Post by: flap on 22 January 2004, 04:51
Does X start ok when you type startx?
If your system has been set to go into text mode by default (run level 3) open the file /etc/inittab and look for a line like

id:3:initdefault:

and change the "3" to "5" (Run level 5 is X-windows).

And for the record, there are a few text mode browsers, lynx being the best known.