Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: loco on 31 July 2002, 00:34
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thanks in advance..
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If you mean free as in price I don't believe you can.
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If you mean free as in warez, you're an idiot who doesn't know what piracy does to the software industry. We don't hand out warez here.
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Your question is actually a FAQ item on http://www.lindows.com/ (http://www.lindows.com/)
quote:
Question
Can I get a free copy of LindowsOS?
Answer
We don't currently offer any programs that provide LindowsOS for free.
We do, however, offer the following ways for getting LindowsOS:
Order a "certified computer" with LindowsOS preinstalled from one of our "builder" partners, such as those currently being offered through Wal-Mart. You'd receive a computer with LindowsOS preinstalled as soon as your order could be placed, processed, and shipped. (Not free, but included at a great price.)
Become a Lindows Insider where, among other benefits, you'll be able to immediately download the current version of LindowsOS, as well as receive the LindowsOS "General Release" when it's ready later this year. (Not free, but comes with a money-back guarantee to ensure your satisfaction.)
Wait for the LindowsOS General Release later this year.
And as such, it puts them with the likes of M$. Distributing free code from others at a price and I would be willing to bet that they have no plans of sharing the profits with the programmers. They are within their rights to do that, but I am within my rights not to use it. And I certainly would not suggest pirating it for a couple of reasons. Pirating is what made M$ a monopoly. Just because it costs doesn't mean it's better. From everything I've heard it is the worst Linux distro available. Get a real distro.
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this it for you Ravuya (the only idiot)
I think you are the only idiot here cuz whent a said free I mean beta vers or something like that cuz I heard they can give you a free vers just to test it, so next time you reply someone don't be so rude.... especialy if youn don't know whats goin on out there....
for the other guys thanks for the tips
[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: loco ]
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that would be the insiders, they get a free beta version to test out. I, like VoidMain, dont suggest you try to get Lindows. I suggest getting Mandrake (http://www.linux-mandrake.com) or Red Hat (http://www.redhat.com) Linux.
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I suggest switching (http://www.redhat.com) away from such shoddy software (http://www.linuxsucks.com).
[edit - i changed his first link, it was pornographic, the text has not been changed however.]
[ July 31, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]
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As far as Lindows goes, stay away from it; it encourages internet browsing as "Root"; that's a huge no-no, it leaves your entire file system open to intrusive, nosy assholes like XP user# whateverthefuck. If ou want to try an easy to install, free Debian-based distro, Libranet 2.0 is avalable for download at http://www.libranet.com (http://www.libranet.com)
It's "Woody" based, with a 2.4.16 kernel, and lots of nice little extras.
[EDIT: Do not reply to his posts it is what drives him]
[ August 03, 2002: Message edited by: Ex Eleven / b0b ]
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So which of the linux vers(Mandrake,redhat,libranet) is the most friendly to use and install for the first time user thanks
Ps:And support from others program like the ones you use for M$ is that many like that?(the same amount of program like the same amount they have for microsft)
thanks in advance again for you help!
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Originally posted by loco:
So which of the linux vers(Mandrake,redhat,libranet) is the most friendly to use and install for the first time user thanks
Ps:And support from others program like the ones you use for M$ is that many like that?(the same amount of program like the same amount they have for microsft)
thanks in advance again for you help!
If you can A. follow instructions and B. install Windows, you can install Libranet with no problem.
I'm not sure about the download edition, but the purchased edition allows you to install WINE during setup; if the D/L edition can't do that, then just apt-get install WINE, and it will be downloaded, configured and install from Debians website.
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yep, a lot of these guys say Debian is one of the best these days. For a while a lot of people said SuSE, and my favourite is mandrake (though i haven't tried suse or debian). You'll find a lot of people tell you to get red hat too, which is a very mainstream distro (so you will find fixes and so on for it that tad easier).
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If you mean free as in warez, you're an idiot who doesn't know what piracy does to the software industry.
Are you serious?
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Yes he is. Pirating is one of the reasons M$ is a monopoly today. I can explain if you like, but I have explained it several times previously. You might want to check some of the older threads...
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While the distribution of Microsoft (and non-Free in general) software, unauthorised or otherwise, is ultimately a bad thing, I don't believe (though I could be mistaken) that this is the point he was making. And it's unfortunate that he used the propaganda term "piracy."
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I see. I think I sort of agree with you. Is the term warez appropriate? I believe it is. But he didn't know that the original poster was looking for a legit beta version. And the original poster didn't know that that program is no longer available for free. Lindows contains a lot of non free/Free code along side of a lot of free/Free code, which is doubly bad in my opinion. They are putting proprietary icing on the open source cake and making a profit of which none of the open source cake makers are seeing any cut from. Now the writers of the open source code didn't ask for a cut but I have to believe that most of them would see it as a slap in the face. And the type of users that would use this would just think that Lindows wrote the entire thing. And to top it off, it's a crappy product. How can you put something out that defies the most basic security rules? No thanks...
Of course maybe I am still misunderstanding the intent of his post... I'm not the sharpest tack in the box...
[ August 01, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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Exactly. What he should have said was "If you mean 'Lindows' as in the shoddy parasite feeding off the hard work and enthusiasm of the Free Software community and encouraging the continued use of Microsoft products then you're an idiot who doesn't know what this kind of thing does to the good name of GNU/Linux."
I think it's more likely that he was saying "Don't use warez as it harms proprietary software vendors," when he should have been saying "Don't use warez as it helps proprietary software companies"
I guessing though, so ignore me.
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most people started out by instaling there friends new copy of dos, and soon when win95 cam out, people wouldn't pay for it, but they would accept windowz bundled, now thats the small version, i could go into more detial but i don't want to
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*groan* ok, i'm going to use my limited talents
at tact and diplomacy to try to direct this
away from the clusterfuck it's becoming and
possibly toward something that both 'loco' and
'myself' can use,...
i noticed 'Calum' mentioning mandrake to be his
favorite version of linux,...i've just actively
joined the rebellion myself and downloaded the
iso files to rip the cd's needed to load mandrake
on both my pc at home and my G4 at work,...
my question/questions are as follows,...mandrake
claims that it's OS and Mac's OS can coexist,...
are they talking about on the same partitioned
hardrive? i've attempted this only twice,...and
both times everything goes smooth until my
reboot after installation, the bootup gets to
my local host login(i think)and my screen goes
black,...any suggestions?(without flaming me
to a crisp,...heh)
should i think about just loading my linux
on it's own hardrive and not partition it for
both my MacOS and linux OS? and plan the same
for my pc at home,...(assuming, of course, that
i ever had an option)
sorry for the length,...but, if 'loco' is
looking for an alternative OS such as i have
been doing and considers mandrake as 'calum'
suggested, then maybe we both could get some
insight,...
damn, gotta go,...seinfeld reruns!
thanks
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Ah, Seinfeld reruns.. It's funny, I couldn't stand the show until it went into reruns. Now I can't get enough of it.
I don't have a Mac so I can't give you first hand information, however, it looks like you should be able to dual boot from a single Mac hard drive according to this:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/)