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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: udaki on 2 July 2004, 18:09

Title: My days with linux
Post by: udaki on 2 July 2004, 18:09: Well, for the past couple of days ive been messing around with linux and i like it a whole lot.But the problem is that the linux cant doesnt have my damn modem driver so i cant get on the net with linux so i need to buy a externel modem that will work with linux sepecifcally redhat.I also want to know if linux regconized my graphic cards right.I mean I have Intel Extrem Graphics and in windows it can go up to 32 bits but in linux it only went up to 24 bits.I went to intel and got the rpms for linux but when i tried to install it it says that its already installed.WTF? So Intel graphic cards can only go up to 24 bits in linux?
Title: My days with linux
Post by: insomnia on 2 July 2004, 20:43: What is your current modem?

You could edit your config file manually for the 32 bits, but be very carefull with this.
Did redhat recognize your monitor?
Title: My days with linux
Post by: WMD on 2 July 2004, 23:41: Ah yes, an unfortunate WinModem user. I pity you, truly. :(

I recommend you ditch your current modem entirely and buy a new internal one. Look at US Robotics, 3Com, whatever, and find one that specifically has a hardware controller. It'll be more expensive than a WinModem, but real modems don't need drivers *at all* in Linux. \o/
If you really need to save the money, you could find a different WinModem that has a Linux driver. But, that's probably more trouble than it's worth.

As for the video...what card did you select for XFree86 config? Redhat 9 (if I remember correctly) was out before an X driver for the Extreme existed. What driver is working?
You can go and add an entry for 32-bit video if you want.
I dug up an old (read: XFree 3.3) config file for what you're looking to do. It would look something like this:
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Notice the last section for "Depth 32" - that's what you don't seem to have. Add that, and all the resolutions you would like to use. Then, use redhat-config-xfree (or System Settings > Display, I think), to switch to 32-bit.

Hope this helps. (http://smile.gif)
Title: My days with linux
Post by: udaki on 3 July 2004, 00:35: I selected intel 845/845GL for my graphic card and a gateway ev700 for the monitor so all i need is to upgrade X?
Title: My days with linux
Post by: WMD on 3 July 2004, 01:35: Oh, ok, the 845. No, you won't need to upgrade X. I assume by the RPM you meant this (http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=39&strTypes=DRV%2CARC&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Linux*&submit=Go%21). If that isn't working, you'll just have to manually add to your XF86Config file by hand.

Look at the code section of my previous post. See the section that says "Subsection Display" followed by "Depth 32"? Just copy that into the corresponding area of your file. Yours would look more like this:
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Ok? If you're still unsure, post a copy of your own file: /etc/X11/XF86Config.

[ July 02, 2004: Message edited by: WMD ]
Title: My days with linux
Post by: udaki on 8 July 2004, 02:40: I changed the depth like u said to 32 and restarted xfree86 and it fucked up xfree86 any other ways to change the depth to 32?
Title: My days with linux
Post by: WMD on 8 July 2004, 05:08: How did you change it? Did you change "Depth 16" to "Depth 32", or did you copy in the entire section?
Title: My days with linux
Post by: insomnia on 8 July 2004, 07:11: Could you post your full /etc/X11/XF86Config file.
Title: My days with linux
Post by: udaki on 9 July 2004, 00:26: here it is:

# XFree86 4 configuration created by redhat-config-xfree86

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "Default Layout"
   Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
   RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   FontPath "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load "dbe"
   Load "extmod"
   Load "fbdevhw"
   Load "glx"
   Load "record"
   Load "freetype"
   Load "type1"
   Load "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#   Option   "Xleds"      "1 2 3"
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#   Option   "XkbDisable"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#   Option   "XkbModel"   "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#   Option   "XkbModel"   "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#   Option   "XkbLayout"   "de"
# or:
#   Option   "XkbLayout"   "de"
#   Option   "XkbVariant"   "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#   Option   "XkbOptions"   "ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
#   Option   "XkbOptions"   "ctrl:nocaps"
#
   Identifier "Keyboard0"
   Driver "keyboard"
   Option    "XkbRules" "xfree86"
   Option    "XkbModel" "pc105"
   Option    "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Mouse0"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option    "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
   Option    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
   Option    "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then
# this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you
# also use USB mice at the same time.
   Identifier "DevInputMice"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option    "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
   Option    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
   Option    "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier "Monitor0"
   VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
   ModelName "Gateway EV700"
   DisplaySize 330   240
   HorizSync 31.0 - 69.0
   VertRefresh 50.0 - 110.0
   Option    "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier "Videocard0"
   Driver "i810"
   VendorName "Videocard vendor"
   BoardName "Intel 845"
   VideoRam 32768
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device "Videocard0"
   Monitor "Monitor0"
   DefaultDepth 24
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth 24
      Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Group 0
   Mode 0666
EndSection
Title: My days with linux
Post by: WMD on 9 July 2004, 01:08: Replace your current file with this one:

Code: [Select]
Title: My days with linux
Post by: udaki on 9 July 2004, 04:36: still fucked up my XF86 man X is EVIL!!!!
Title: My days with linux
Post by: WMD on 9 July 2004, 05:52: Ok when you say "fucked up," what do you mean? What exactly happens?
Title: My days with linux
Post by: udaki on 9 July 2004, 20:08: when i restarted x and log back in it says Intel I830 driver doesnt support 32 bit and goes back to the terminal
Title: My days with linux
Post by: WMD on 9 July 2004, 22:00: Really? Hahaha. Ok, change DefaultDepth back to 24 and just use that. Apparently the Linux version of the driver doesn't support 32bit (even though the Windoze version does :confused: ).

If you want to try some more, go to Redhat's XFree86 config and try another driver. Not sure what else is compatible, myself, but you could experiment.
Title: My days with linux
Post by: Refalm on 10 July 2004, 01:39: quote:
udaki: still fucked up my XF86 man X is EVIL!!!!

No, XFree86 sucks ass, X.org rules (http://www.x.org/) ;)
Title: My days with linux
Post by: insomnia on 12 July 2004, 23:08: http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel865g/sb/CS-009175.htm?iid=graphics+865main& (http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel865g/sb/CS-009175.htm?iid=graphics+865main&)

32 bit should work
Title: My days with linux
Post by: hm_murdock on 12 July 2004, 23:12: [quoteNo, XFree86 sucks ass, X.org rules[/quote]

indeed. X.org is many times better than XF86. I only wish X.org wouldn't been around longer!
Title: My days with linux
Post by: WMD on 13 July 2004, 00:07: quote:
Originally posted by insomnia:
http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel865g/sb/CS-009175.htm?iid=graphics+865main& (http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel865g/sb/CS-009175.htm?iid=graphics+865main&)

32 bit should work

That's the i865, he has i845/i810.