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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: RIAA_blows on 6 November 2003, 03:32
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I am switching from Microsoft Winblows to Linux.
Which is the best distro?
(Do not recommend Manrake, Redhat, SuSE or Knoppix)
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RIAA_blows: (Do not recommend Manrake, Redhat, SuSE or Knoppix)
Mandrake (http://tongue.gif)
Plug-in your digital camera from USB? Works right out of the box. Connect your Rio mp3 player? Also works right away.
Try doing that with Red Hat.
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LOL!
Will it support my hardware though?
Athlon XP 2500+ with 512MB RAM and GeForce FX 5600
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If you have a nForce 2 chipset (I assume you have), then all you have to to is go to nVidia.com and install the drivers for you kick ass motherboard (assuming it got the nForce 2 chipset) and kick ass GeForce FX.
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Yeah, I do.
Thanx!
Going to install right now...
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Also, the LG issue - is there a fix for it yet? I have an LG CD-ROM and don't want it fried :(
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Originally posted by RIAA_blows:
Also, the LG issue - is there a fix for it yet? I have an LG CD-ROM and don't want it fried :(
Nice, but what do you want?
From all big distro's I only like one: SuSE.
If you don't like it, learn using Slackware, Debian or Gentoo.
[ November 05, 2003: Message edited by: insomnia ]
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I don't know which distro is best...seems like it would be a matter of preferance. I liked RH...but now I don't..lol
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Plug-in your digital camera from USB? Works right out of the box. Connect your Rio mp3 player? Also works right away.
that isn't always true. My el cheapo digital camera plugged into the USB and mounted right away on RH 9.0...as did my printer.
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For me,
Mandrake is nice except it seems very buggy and the company is in big financial trouble.
SuSE seems nice but I will never use it or recommend it because YaST is covered under a non-free license and it is illegal to distribute the ISO's you get in the boxed set (they come with proprietary software)
Debian - I would use and recommend debian, but it is a pain in the ass to set up. It is also extremely outdated, unless you use the "unstable" branch, which I couldn't get to install.
Gentoo: bleh, it's so l33t it doesn't even *have* an installer. For ubergeeks with a weekend of time to spare only. Granted I got it to work (I am rather the geek after all) but after playing around with it I realized it has no future on any normal person's desktop.
Slackware - ok, very old school but not that hard to set up. I actually recommend it. (though I hate the way you have to edit bash scripts to change anything, that's just so outdated)
Fedora (or the distro formerly known as Red Hat)
This is the Windows XP of linux distributions. I actually mean this in a good way. It detects most hardware out there, is rather easy to use, doesn't contain a ton of bugs, and is the default desktop configuration is actually sane (and pretty, too) I definitely suggest you download it.
[ November 09, 2003: Message edited by: Linux User #5225982375 ]
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If you can read a bit of German you can use all the goodies in SuSE linux for free by using a distro called KM Linux
Its developed by The German government who partly used to own SuSE before Novell bought them, and were allowed to use Yast in their Distro.
web page (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=km+linux)
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I would venture RedHat 9, as a great newbie distro. It's a great distro overal.
Tho it seems RedHat is gonna discontinue support for it. But you can download the ISO's still, and I think you will be able to grab enterprise linux of their FTP as well....
So ya, RedHat 9, I would say. I think it's more stable than Mandrake as well.
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I think you're better off trying some live-CDs first (those are the only things I'm confident at (http://tongue.gif) )
Knoppix
Damn Small Linux (works on older machines)
Slackware-live
Get to know them first.
As to a permanent distro, I'd recommend Mandrake, cause I have it only (http://tongue.gif)
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RIAA_blows: Also, the LG issue - is there a fix for it yet? I have an LG CD-ROM and don't want it fried :(
So many posts, and no-one has answered your question (http://smile.gif) . Herre (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/lgerrata.php3) it is. You can find the patch for your dirrty LG drive in thurr.
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Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
So ya, RedHat 9, I would say. I think it's more stable than Mandrake as well.
i dont know what you are talking about more stable. Mandrake is like a rock, it never crashes. My old Mandrake linux webserver/desktop machine had an uptime of well over 200 days before I moved. This was on a machine that I used every day for things like bzflag and as a pc for testing my java skills. My current Mandrake desktop machine has an uptime of 50 days. Might I add that I play rtcw and enemy territory daily, and I never log out of X. This is the most stable linux Ive used.
I also dont understand why some people say it is buggy. I dont have application crashes due to bugs, although some bugs have been found, it was in the same apps that Red Hat uses, and the few bugs that are found on mandrake are fixed pretty quickly.
Applications on Red Hat 8.0 on the other hand have been prone to crash on me quite often, but this is the old version, maybe Red Hat fixed these problems. Ive heard other complaints about 8.0 so maybe that was a bad version in general. Also I dont like Bluecurve, but that is just a preference. Im more into extreme desktop reconstruction, which is easy with any distro.
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Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
Debian - I would use and recommend debian, but it is a pain in the ass to set up. It is also extremely outdated, unless you use the "unstable" branch, which I couldn't get to install.
Their will be a Debian release with redhat's Anaconda installer. ;)
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200310/msg01880.html (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200310/msg01880.html)
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I have a fedora partition on my computer, and let me tell you don't be afraid. You simply can't tell the difference between RedHat 9 and Fedora 1
Mandrake is better though, extremely stable, simple and dare I say it Fun.
I don't really like Redhat 'Cause of the way they bastardize KDE, I'll make my desktop look the way I want it to, Thankyou very much.
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Well...
Right now I'm stuck between Fedora Core 1, and Mandrake 9.2, I already have both of them downloaded (http://smile.gif)
I'm probably gonna go with Mandrake, unless someone changes my mind (http://smile.gif)
[ November 17, 2003: Message edited by: RIAA_blows ]
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Well, I'm in love with Slackware 9.1 :D
I installed Mandrake 9.1, and I don't understand why people praise it so much. It had trouble detecting my pretty standard hardware, the anti-aliasing thrugought the GUI's is inconsistent, and it seems to mess up alot. Maybe I had a bad d-load or something.
As to Fedora, if it's as close to RedHat 9 as they say, you should be fine. It's a great distro, perfect for noobies.
A negative aspect about it however is the slow window manager, and general slowness. I think Slackware is spoiling me (http://smile.gif)
I'm telling you, Slackware 9.1 opend my eyes! I now love me some linux, despite the archaic garbage you have to wade thrugh :D
I think it's because RedHat and Mandrake have only obscured the garbage leaving you scratching your head when something goes wrong. Slack encurages you to learn how to manage your system at the command line level.
I could go on, but it is a very fun distro, and will teach you alot about computers. Mind you, this is a dyed in the wool Mac fan here, and I'm telling you Slack "ain't that hard".
Ok... enugh praising...
Oh.... I can't resist:
SLACKWARE 9.1 IS THE BEST DISTRO EVER!!!!!
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The slowness you speak of in Fedora is largely due to GNOME, that and the fact that it uses Ext3 as its default filesystem instead of the faster ReiserFS.
Slackware's GNOME runs a little faster, but I've found KDE is less prone to thrash your hard disk like crazy if you're like me and are running a machine with 128 MB RAM.
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Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
The slowness you speak of in Fedora is largely due to GNOME, that and the fact that it uses Ext3 as its default filesystem instead of the faster ReiserFS.
Slackware's GNOME runs a little faster, but I've found KDE is less prone to thrash your hard disk like crazy if you're like me and are running a machine with 128 MB RAM.
Ya, well, I got plenty of RAM, and GNOME looks, and works, much better than KDE.
I also love the GNOME based apps. Anjuta is a wonderful IDE.
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The only thing I hate about GNOME is Nautilus. I wish they would have come up with something a little less bloated.
Having said that, the GNOME interface is superior to KDE's. The KDE folks like tacking on features and extra menus without thinking it through, and the result is often ugly. The default KDE theme (keramik) is also butt-ugly. Fortunately you can change that.
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Yeah thats what a converter from windows needs, an outdated unsupported OS. At least with linux he will get the needed technical support, and the knowledge that in 5 years, the OS will still be around. With next step you get nothing. Dont waste your time.
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Originally posted by ThePreacher:
Yeah thats what a converter from windows needs, an outdated unsupported OS. At least with linux he will get the needed technical support, and the knowledge that in 5 years, the OS will still be around. With next step you get nothing. Dont waste your time.
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