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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Skull on 16 November 2002, 05:13
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First of all I want to welcome everyone on this forum. I came here because I was looking for operating system solution other than Windows. I heard of Linux, and I started to get interested in it, now Im thinking of switching from Windows to Linux. There was this one time when I got Mandrake 8.2 on My computer, but I got couple errors during installation and after instalation I couldnt setup My cable modem to work so I removed Linux from My computer. I had no manual, no instructions, and i didnt know what to do after installation. Now I think Im going to give it another try, and Im asking You to help Me choose any easy distribution for beginning. I was thinking of SuSe, Lycoris, Mandrake, or WinLinux 2003. Im waiting for Your help, and soon Im hopeing to join Linux user community.
[ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: Skull ]
[ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: Skull ]
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I would go with SuSe, Redhat, or Mandrake. In my opinion, Lycoris hasn't been around long enough to have all the bugs worked out and probably isn't the best choice for being brought to the world of Linux. I use Mandrake 8.2 myself. If you try Mandrake again, I'll try my best to help you with any problems you might have.
You could also try Xandros Linux, as they are supposed to be extremely easy to install and is compatible with a good chunk of Windows programs as well. (Although it's a bit pricey for my taste.)
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Dont You think Red Hat is going to be to hard for beginning?
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I just tried Knoppix 3.1 on My computer, and all My hardware was detected automatically, does that mean that when I install Linux hardware on My computer is going to be detected automatically and Im not going to have to worry about it? Im still waiting for Your advice in choseing Linux distribution right for Me...
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It's up to you to choose what is right for you, not for us to choose. I personally choose RedHat for desktop use and would recommend it to people who are new to Linux. It is very user friendly. And yes, if Knoppix detected everything then RedHat and other distros should as well. But heck, if you like Knoppix you can just install it to your hard drive.
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Im switching to Linux tomorrow, and I read on this forum that Red Hat 8.0 doesnt have everything worked out, mabe i should start with SuSE 8.1 Personal?
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Where did you read that? RedHat has and has had more things "worked out" than any of the other distros if you want my opinion.
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What about Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1's "Whats with Red-Hat..." topic?
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i believe redhat 8 is fine... its the linux 2.4.18 kernel thats pissing me off.
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quote:
Originally posted by Skull:
What about Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1's "Whats with Red-Hat..." topic?
What about it? All he said is they didn't include a couple of apps that he wanted. You can fix that by installing apt and do:
# apt-get install xine
# apt-get install mplayer-skins
# apt-get install mpg123
That's about 2 minutes of work.
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So Im getting Red Hat 8.0 installed on My computer tomorrow ,and well see if I like it. Thanks for help...
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I got Red Hat 8.0 installed, but it didnt detected My cable modem. I use RCA DCM226 cable modem. What am I suppose to do? Right now Im on Knoppix 3.1. My modem is connected through USB, mabe I should get network card compatibile with Red Hat. Im not going back to Windows, id rather buy network card, what do You suggest for Me to do?
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I'm confused. Your cable modem hooks directly up to your computer via USB?? If so do you also have an RJ45 (Ethernet) port on your Modem? Could you boot into RedHat and run the "dmesg" command and paste the output into a message? You can redirect the output to a file by "dmesg > dmesg.txt".
[ November 17, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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Yes I do have an RJ45 (Ethernet) port on My modem, as well as USB. I got the file, what am I supose to do with it?
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Paste the contents in here so I can look at it.
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Linux version 2.4.18-14 ([email protected]) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)) #1 Wed Sep 4 12:13:11 EDT 2002
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000000fffc000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000fffc000 - 000000000ffff000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 000000000ffff000 - 0000000010000000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
255MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 65532
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 61436 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 hdd=ide-scsi root=LABEL=/
ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 1533.511 MHz processor.
Speakup v-1.00 CVS: Tue Jun 11 14:22:53 EDT 2002 : initialized
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 3038.00 BogoMIPS
Memory: 253072k/262128k available (1311k kernel code, 6624k reserved, 987k data, 212k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
ramfs: mounted with options: <defaults>
ramfs: max_pages=31889 max_file_pages=0 max_inodes=0 max_dentries=31889
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000, vendor = 2
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1800+ stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([email protected])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf1aa0, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent
PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/3147] at 00:11.0
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
speakup: initialized device: /dev/synth, node (MAJOR 10, MINOR 25)
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16)
Starting kswapd
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized
pty: 2048 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
block: 480 slots per queue, batch=120
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 89
PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:11.1. Please try using pci=biosirq.
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
VP_IDE: VIA vt8233a (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci00:11.1
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hda :D MA, hdb (http://tongue.gif) io
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xb808-0xb80f, BIOS settings: hdc :D MA, hdd :D MA
hda: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1, ATA DISK drive
hdc: Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPIModel DVD-106S 010, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: SONY CD-RW CRX145E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 78165360 sectors (40021 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=4865/255/63, UDMA(100)
ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
NET4: Frame Diverter 0.46
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 32768)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 127k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 212k freed
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:09.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:05.0
hcd.c: ehci-hcd @ 00:09.2, VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0
hcd.c: irq 10, pci mem d0848000
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ehci-hcd.c: USB 2.0 support enabled, EHCI rev 0.95
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 4 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 12:23:37 Sep 4 2002
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 00:09.0
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd400, IRQ 5
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:09.1
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd000, IRQ 11
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 00:11.2
IRQ routing conflict for 00:11.2, have irq 9, want irq 3
IRQ routing conflict for 00:11.3, have irq 9, want irq 3
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xb400, IRQ 9
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 00:11.3
IRQ routing conflict for 00:11.2, have irq 9, want irq 3
IRQ routing conflict for 00:11.3, have irq 9, want irq 3
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xb000, IRQ 9
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 5
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
usb.c: registered new driver hiddev
usb.c: registered new driver hid
hid-core.c: v1.8.1 Andreas Gal, Vojtech Pavlik <[email protected]>
hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
hub.c: USB new device connect on bus4/1, assigned device number 2
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.18, 14 May 2002 on ide0(3,2), internal journal
usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x69b/0x704) is not claimed by any active driver.
Adding Swap: 522104k swap-space (priority -1)
usb.c: registered new driver acm
acm.c: v0.21:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
CDCEther.c: CDCEther.c: 0.98.6 7 Jan 2002 Brad Hards and another
usb.c: registered new driver CDCEther
CDCEther.c: Ethernet information found at device configuration. Trying to use it anyway.
CDCEther.c: Found Header descriptor, CDC version 110.
CDCEther.c: Imperfect filtering support - need sw hashing
CDCEther.c: Can't use SetEthernetMulticastFilters request
CDCEther.c: detected BULK OUT packets of size 64
CDCEther.c: interrupt address: 5
CDCEther.c: interrupt interval: 64
divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0
CDCEther.c: eth0: Thomson Consumer Electronics RCA DCM226 Cable Modem
CDCEther.c: eth0: 00:10:95:88:44:50
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.18, 14 May 2002 on ide0(3,1), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
hdc: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
Vendor: SONY Model: CD-RW CRX145E Rev: 1.0b
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
parport0: irq 7 detected
ohci1394: pci_module_init failed
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
cmpci: version $Revision: 5.64 $ time 12:24:11 Sep 4 2002
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:05.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:09.2
cmpci: found CM8738 adapter at io 0xd800 irq 10
cmpci: chip version = 055
cmpci: Enable SPDIF loop
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
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Hey, it looks to me like it found your Cable Modem on your USB port and set it up as "eth0" which is good. Go into "System Tools">"Network Device Control" and see if it shows an "eth0". If it's there run the "System Tools">"Internet Configuration Wizard" and set it up for DHCP (assuming your provider gives you a DHCP assigned address), if not fill in the static IP info. It may be the old problem where you need to shut down your machine and turn off the cable modem for a minute or two. Several people have had a problem with a cable modem holding old information and not allowing you to but up a new OS on it until it was turned off for a period of time.
If it looks like everything was right and should have worked but doesn't, click "System Tools">"System Logs" and see if there are any messages. You might want to type "dhclient" or "eth0" in the filter box.
[ November 18, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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I checked "System Tools">"Network Device Control" and its nothing there...
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You could look at your logs and see if there are any error messages but if you have an Ethernet card you can use a straight through patch cable (not a crossover cable, I checked your cable modem manual) to connect your Cable modem to your Ethernet card.
You can find an Ethernet card for between 10 and 20 USD if you don't already have one laying around. Make sure it'll work before buying it though (if you want to go that route). What confuses me is that Knoppix can use it. If Knoppix can use it, RedHat should be able to as well. I can check into it in more detail and see if we can get it working via USB if you want. It would be good to see what is in your System log though as I mentioned in my previous note (the actual log is /var/log/messages).
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We can try to get it working via USB, and if it wont work Ill buy ethernet card...
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Boy I can't find much info on it. It appears Knoppix and Mandrake 9.0 use the 2.4.19 kernel where RedHat 8.0 uses 2.4.18 which is the only thing I can think of. It should use the "CDCEther" kernel module.
You might boot into RedHat and see if the module is indeed loaded with "# /sbin/lsmod | grep CDC". If it's not loaded try to load it with "# /sbin/modprobe CDCEther" (case sensitive). Also do a "# /sbin/ifconfig" to see what devices show up. You should have a "lo" device and an "eth0" device. It would also be nice to see your /var/log/messages file. That file would be too big to post in a message. You would just want to look for error messages containing "eth0" or "CDC" etc...
Sorry I'm not coming up with much. I am pretty sure if I had my hands on the machine I could get it working, knowing that it works in Knoppix and Mandrake. Again, the driver must have been updated in the slightly newer kernel is all I can figure.
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I checked "System Tools">"System Logs", and "dhclient", "ethO" were not found. I also checked /var/log/messages, and it said permission denied...
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That's because you have to be root to view /var/log/messages. BTW, why don't you just mount your RH drive from Knoppix so you can just look through the file there. Then if you see any error messages you can cut and paste them into a message.
Oh, and it's eth0 (zero at the end, not capital "o").
[ November 18, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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Skull, would it be possible for you to try and follow my instructions for upgrading to kernel version 2.4.19 in this thread (http://forum.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001208&p=2)? I'm thinking it might get your Cable modem working via the USB connection. Since you have to boot Knoppix for network connection you will have to mount your root file system on your hard drive and download the kernel source there. Download it into the /usr/src (under the mount point you have your hard drive's root file system mounted) and then follow the directions (skipping the "wget" line).
Thanks, would be greatly appreciated.
[ November 19, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]