Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: jasonlane on 21 July 2003, 22:41
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SCO Scum! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/31859.html)
Smug little company aren't they, obviously egged on and backed by M$ scum, who the fuck do they think they are?
What can be done about this??
I'd like to hear what you think will happen to SCO, will they just be ignored, are they infact doing more damage to themself, without any outside help?
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SCO's press release (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030721/lam075_1.html)
Yes, they are finally officially saying that they own Linux and people who want to use it must pay a licencing fee to them.
This has seriously gone too far.
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So what are we going to do about it? I think this site should arrange something, we have it in our power to pretty much do anything we set our collective minds to....no?
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
SCO's press release (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030721/lam075_1.html)
Yes, they are finally officially saying that they own Linux and people who want to use it must pay a licencing fee to them.
This has seriously gone too far.
No one uses their distro anymore. (I used to, but not anymore.)
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Yes we could do that....Like Nero playing his fiddle while Rome burnt, a bit theatrical I know. People listen to this shit though, they actually sit down and read the news or IT press, Daily PC or whatever. When it says in their daily gutter press or Daily PC, "SCO has been wronged, Linux is communism. We must legislate against this evil, SCO is only doing what's right, getting what belongs to them". Most people think yeah, that's right, whitout knowing any of the full implications. Well I kind of feel that I should be doing something while I still can, not a question of if anyone uses their distro or not. That is besides the point. We are the Anti M$ site, yes? Well I feel that SCO is also part of that, they after all are being backed by M$, I can just see things going very badly. Perhaps I'm over reacting. However saying "no one uses their distro anymore" is all well and good, what if they actually get what they want? Were does that leave us, everyone? You?
Ah perhaps I'm just over reacting :(
[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
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Originally posted by TheQuirk:
No one uses their distro anymore. (I used to, but not anymore.)
They say they own LINUX, as in the kernel. If you use any distro, they say they are entitled to a licencing fee.
[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
They say they own LINUX, as in the kernel. If you use any distro, they say they are entitled to a licencing fee.
[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]
Ditto
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Originally posted by Zardoz:
Ah perhaps I'm just over reacting :(
No you are not over reacting. SCO is officially trying to annex Linux, like Saddam Hussein tried to annex Kuwait.
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Thanks (http://smile.gif)
OK so perhaps we need to do something about it. Don't know what yet, that's why I'm raising this issue. Also I don't think the attitude of "oh what good can we do" cuts it. Every bit does help. Also think the open source community, Linux community, the community of people with common sense will prevail. So that's why I asked the question, what do you guys think we could do? Even if it was just one page on this site for example. So I think we have a duty to the wider community.
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(http://01larry55.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tire.jpg)
Where do I send it? :D
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ah ahaha ;)
Jeez that looks like my grandfather! I knew he did some modeling in his youth....
no but seriously, my account no. is....
Dont' any of you think we could do something, I just feel this is perhaps the place to do it. Perhaps I'm wrong :(
[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
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1) They... they're trying to... the kernel... oooh, my head! I'm just getting started with Linux, too! No fair! I'll stop this part so I don't start ranting.
2) We? I'd like to do something, but what? I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't have a clue what I could do :(
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
They say they own LINUX, as in the kernel.
Good lord. That's so absurd it's funny.
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Originally posted by Fett101:
Good lord. That's so absurd it's funny.
Laughable, pathetic even. There doing it though and the could get away with it.
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Originally posted by Zardoz:
Dont' any of you think we could do something, I just feel this is perhaps the place to do it. Perhaps I'm wrong :(
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If anyone here is in school, now is the time to start bugging your administrations about using Linux (use the word "free" as often as possible, that usually works)
Same goes for anyone working in a large company
further more Zardoz here (http://wdb1.sco.com/sdir_web/owa/ptrlocator.results) is a list of SCO partners in the UK, tell them who you are and how dissapointed you are that your local (or at least National) Industry leaders (#1 rule of sales: always make them sound important, even if they're just a computer store)
are affiliated with a company trying to kill its competition in the most questionable of ways.
Send a letter, an email won't get much attention.
Don't make any threats in your letter ;) , but remind them that their associates, With whom they share a reputaion with, are (and you can use this) David to Goliath, except David's slingshot is holdind a legal pebble rather than a stone. :D
You can't attack a business directly, you can't just yell at SCO, nothing will happen,They've shown they aint gonna' budge, but if they were to start losing partners, and support, they would be finished.
If you would like to go this root you can't do it alone, contact your local or nearest LUG (linux users group) and tell them your plan.
Try and contact people of recognition in your community, and get them to do the same, if your in school great place to HQ from, if your a minor even better, your LESS likely to be sued for slander. If you are in school try and get your school to send a letter urging your local SCO partners to sever their relationships.
Public input can be a powerful thing, because a lot of these companies try to make a good name for themselves with the community and Gov. by doing things for the public, Donations to schools, charities, crap like that. If you can make the public stop liken' 'em the Government will probably stop liking them as well ;)
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here is a list of SCO partners in the UK, tell them who you are and how dissapointed you are that your local (or at least National) Industry leaders
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Is this:
a) a misspelt URL
b) actual server downtime or
c) sco trying to hide who their partners are?
Very good idea though.
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So does anyone have a copy of SCO's partners they can paste in here?
also clicking on the "partners" link tries to take you to this url:http://www.sco.com/partenrs/
considering the misspell, i'd say they may have changed that url recently...
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Originally posted by suselinux:
If anyone here is in school, now is the time to start bugging your administrations about using Linux (use the word "free" as often as possible, that usually works)
::raises hand:: I'm in school! Well, i will be in the fall. Of course, that's the thing to do! What sucks is our "network administrator" is installing windows XP on the network before school starts, probably as I type this. I doubt I could convince him to give that up right after he put it there, especially AFTER spending all that money...
Unless I could convince him about the security aspect! He's a real control freak, and HATES it when students fiddle with the computers or get past the security. Seriously, he freaks out. That could work! Well, it's worth a shot. I guess I could also start doing something with PLUG (Philly LUG), although I don't know anything about it. Thanks suse (http://smile.gif)
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Or do what theses guys did
web page (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/23/1058853121030.html)
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
They say they own LINUX, as in the kernel. If you use any distro, they say they are entitled to a licencing fee.
[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]
You really, really, didn't need to point that out. I'm not retarded. I'm simply pointing something out.
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Originally posted by suselinux:
Or do what theses guys did
web page (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/23/1058853121030.html)
Yup something like that would be good ;)
I duno I'm not in charge around here, Charlie is.
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Yup I think if we all went to our country's business behavior thing and complained I think we could start a good sized lawsuit against SCO. Can someone contact the webmaster about that?
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Good idea... but what's the equivalent in the US to the "Australian Competition and Consumer Commission"? Again, I just wouldn't know where to start with something like that. Again, that is a good idea, though.
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From reading slashdot I have heard several ideas..
In the US, as opposed to Germany and Australia, it's probably not a good idea to do a "put up or shut up" lawsuit against SCO, because then The onus of proving that SCO is full of shit would be on the good guys... something that's going to be difficult considering the closed nature of SCO's stuff. IBM is keeping its mouth shut, because now SCO has to produce all the evidence... and they can't hide behind their NDA because they are the ones suing.
However, something we can do is ask the Securities and Exchange Comission to investigate SCO. What they are doing reeks of stock manipulation and fraud. Their stock price has increased more than ten times since they started this, without any real evidence presented.
Slashdot Page (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/23/1741234&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=123&tid=130&tid=185&tid=190&tid=99)
[ July 24, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]