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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Windows Slave on 23 August 2002, 12:31
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I installed it today, This is my very first Linux experience. I am trying to figure out how to use it.
I have been a Windoze slave for about 10 years now. so far the only problem I am having is getting it to recognize the modem.
I have been told Linux requires a special modem. Is this true?
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Yeah linux has always been pretty bad at the modem thing, being mostly designed for servers, who would have a dialup server? But you may want to go to your modem's website and see if they have any docs there for you. If you can't find anything then I'd suggest getting a high speed connection or an external modem.
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Yes, I have been thinking about getting away from this dreadful dial up.
Other than this minor hang up, I really like it so far. But again I have only been using it for a day.
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Thanks, That helps me a bunch.
Yes I hear Slackware does kick ass, But from what I have gathered in the short time I have been reading about linux, Is that SuSe is easiest to use for beginners.
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Originally posted by Stryker:
Yeah linux has always been pretty bad at the modem thing, being mostly designed for servers, who would have a dialup server? But you may want to go to your modem's website and see if they have any docs there for you. If you can't find anything then I'd suggest getting a high speed connection or an external modem.
Linux has *never* been bad at the modem thing. It's not the fault of Linux that Bill Gates and certain modem vendors teamed up and created a proprietary modem designed to be used only with Windows, so don't blame Linux for it. Try running these modems on *any* other operating system other than Windows, you can not do it. Now if you have a real modem (hardware modem) you will have no problem in Linux.
[ August 23, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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Now if you have a real modem (hardware modem) you will have no problem in Linux.
Sorry voidman, I dont have a "real modem" I am just try to see if it is possible to get my modem to work with linux before I go spend money on one I might not need.
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before you go buy a modem, you could also go check if its compatible with linux. You would have to find the list of SuSe compatible hardware (most distros have a list like this)
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http://www.northeastlinux.com/ (http://www.northeastlinux.com/) - has mandrake and SuSe compatiblity lists
http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/genpage2.cgi (http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/genpage2.cgi) - is redhat's compatibility list, but they should be compatible with SuSe if they are with RedHat.
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Aren't you the guy with the Gateway? If so I already did all the searching on RedHat's HCL and on linmodems.org etc. I don't believe there is support for that modem.
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No, It wasen't me.
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Guess I've been on here too long. What make/model is your modem?
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maybe you should read teh rest of this thread voidmain... he doesnt have a modem... yet
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I used some piece of shit FAX/Phone modem on my first attempt at SuSE, and it worked fine....once I launched X and was able to modify a few parameters.
With my experience with SuSE 8.0 (very limited), you should be able to configure most of your necessities with kpppd. Don't hold me to it, though. It all depends on your ISP. If they are a Microsoft rectum-leach, you might not be able to connect by adhering to the commented recommendations. It is up to you to send an e-mail to your ISP, asking specific questions on how to connect.
Your best bet is to search your ISP's site and see for yourself about what they have to offer. If they do not have linux/UNIX accesories, let them know. In the meantime, find a new ISP. It is all about elasticity....
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linux connects via ppp the same way windows does (doesnt it) so it really doesnt matter what your ISP does.
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Well, I have 2 modems right now. The one that is in the box with linux is a PCtel (not sure what model it is) and the other is just an extra I have laying around. It is a Lucent. From what I have read neither are compatible.
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As far as my ISP, I dont have much of a choice. Unless I want to pay long distance charges.
Check out the high tech ISP provider I have to use. :rolleyes: www.htc.net (http://www.htc.net)
Shit they just made DSL availible a little over a year ago. LMFAO
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they are running Compaq Tru64
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Compaq tru64 supports windows and linux, So I dont need to change providers.
I just need to get a Linux/Win modem
[ August 23, 2002: Message edited by: Former Windows Slave ]
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Why don't you get DSL with an external DSL modem and an Ethernet card? Much faster.
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Well, it's nice to be back in the forums (http://smile.gif) . So, windows Slave have you tried http://www.linmodems.org (http://www.linmodems.org)? Unfortunately, as VoidMain previously mentioned, it's not GNU/Linux's fault that M$ teamed up with some modem vendors to produce low-cost Windows proprietary modems (so called WinModems). Thanks to the widespreading Linux community though, we begin to see drivers for those so called modems as well. You could also visit SuSE's homepage to see the support status for your modem or you could just as well get an external (serial port) modem or a DSL one, as VoidMain suggested. Anyway, good luck with learning Linux. I hope you enjoy it ;)
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i've got a lucent winmodem at home, it works just fine with linux. even faster than in windows.
Just make sure you've got EXACTLY the right specs for your modem, and get your package with exactly the right kernel version (that is, if you'd go for a precompiled package where i got my modem drivers, rpmfind.net)
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While were talking about modems under Linux...
Do you HAVE to have a Linux driver made by your modem's company to make it work under Linux? If not, is it possible that one distro might be able to set up your modem if another distro can't?
Also im refering to internal ADSL modems, not dialup. Oh and there's no such thing as a "ADSL winmodem" right?
[ August 23, 2002: Message edited by: lazygamer ]
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Originally posted by lazygamer:
Oh and there's no such thing as a "ADSL winmodem" right?
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Sssh ! Don't give M$ any ideas ...
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Not if it's an external DSL modem which is what I suggested. I would *never* have an internal cable/DSL modem. I have many machines and a network and would rather have an external device. And with an external ethernet device you have no compatibility concerns.
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Thanks for all the info. You people have really helped me understand this modem stuff alot better.
I am going to get ADSL. This way I will solve two problems at one time.
Thanks Again!
[ August 23, 2002: Message edited by: Windows Slave ]
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Yah but I had no idea that I wanted to use Linux in the future. Also, I didn't know shit except ADSL=FAAAAAAST! In addition, monthly charges for external ADSL are lower.
I don't really understand the technical difference between External and Internal.
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well, externel dsl is easy to hook up, since it does use ethernet, and linux loves ethernet, and it can be plugged into a $50us router and share the connection many many many many computers, and any os that supports tcp/ip can use the connection if you use a router witht eh external dsl modem
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Actually you dont really even need a router. You can plug it strait from the modem to your computer if you like (i make linux my router), or buy a cheap $5 hub. Although I find routers to work quite a bit better than a wimpy hub.
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Lol did I say external? I meant internal. Monthly charges for internal ADSL are lower. Why they are is beyond me.
But this is an important issue. Can my modem run due to some Linux distro being made the right way to detect it(I have well over 100 distros to try...), or is it doomed to never run until Daytek/Daewoo make a Linux driver for it. NO ONE has answered this question.
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Hey! A Linmodem! Does it work under Windows? ;)
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Uh, you don't have to worry about which distro has support for any particular device. It's the kernel that would support or not support the internal device. If one distro can handle it, any distro can handle it. All it should need is a kernel upgrade or patch. And external is the way to go. If you buy your own modem the monthly charges should be no different for either as the DSL provider wouldn't know the difference. They may "rent" the external modem at a higher price than the Internal. And it would make sense that an external is a little higher in price, after all it does have built in ethernet, and a case that the internal modem would not have. Do buy the external modem and lower the monthly charges.