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Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: realist on 21 May 2003, 19:46
These little love notes seem to pop up more and more these days, I wonder why?

(http://www.imgmag.net/images/realist/DRM.jpg)

[ May 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Realist ]

Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Refalm on 21 May 2003, 20:26
It's because you have probably selected "automatic updates on" in Windows XP, which automaticly installed Windows Media Player 9. Oh sure, you can uninstall Windows Media Player 9, but you'll never get rid of DRM.

My advise (what I'm about to do):
1. Back-up your non-system and program files on a separate FAT32 partition.

2. Make an ext3 partition.

3. FORMAT C: the partition with Windows.

4. Install Windows 98 SE or Windows XP (without the updates this time!).

5. Install Linux on the ext3 partition.

6. Configure GNU Grub so you can choose between Linux or Windows to at start-up.

When you've done this, you'll only have to woory about Windows when your going to play a game that doesn't work in Linux. But of course, this is what I should do  :D
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Fett101 on 21 May 2003, 21:05
Actually, there is no uninstall for WMP9. The only way to do it is to make a restore point before installing it, and going back to that point to uninstall it.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: mobrien_12 on 21 May 2003, 21:22
I won't use WMP for anything winamp can do, especially because winamp can do it better, faster, and with less RAM.

Does the DRM components in question affect third party players?

The popup is kindof disturbing.  "a DRM security file are sent to Microsoft"... right.  So MS holds the DRM keys here.

And I still find it distasteful how MS refers to DRM as "security."
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: realist on 21 May 2003, 21:55
This message came from Realplayer9 with the WMV plugin installed, by the way. WMP9 is installed however I have not accepted the license agreement so I cannot use it. I also have never clicked 'OK' to download any DRM stuff, which means that some files (which I downloaded legally from people's websites) will not play. I have yet to try these files in a non-Windows environment.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: suselinux on 21 May 2003, 22:04
Where can you find DRM protected files

I wanna download some to try in Linux
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: TheKnifeThrower on 21 May 2003, 23:55
I have never seen a single DRM protected music file.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Refalm on 22 May 2003, 01:38
Gorillaz used to have DRM protected WMA's... now they don't have any kind of music files on their website at all  :(
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: TheKnifeThrower on 22 May 2003, 02:30
DRM should be banned.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Fett101 on 22 May 2003, 02:31
They don't have much of a website at all anymore, really. It's mystery or some crap like that.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: ShawnD1 on 22 May 2003, 04:30
that security thing only opens when you try to open certain types of media file that are meant to be paid for before you can use them. go into Kazaa and look for sexbroadcaster, those files highlighted in orange are the ones that need that weird authentication thing.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Copperhead on 24 May 2003, 17:28
quote:
that security thing only opens when you try to open certain types of media file that are meant to be paid for before you can use them. go into Kazaa and look for sexbroadcaster, those files highlighted in orange are the ones that need that weird authentication thing.


Those "orange" files work fine when you use WINE in Linux. Out of boredom, I downloaded one of those "Just $1.99" files one night, and it worked fine.  

...And I never got a DRM pop-up, either.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: ShawnD1 on 25 May 2003, 10:15
ROFL. are you serious? that's hilarious lol. yo what is that file "EMT Gets Lucky" like?
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: GoodwillMan on 25 May 2003, 16:47
quote:
Originally posted by The Realist:
These little love notes seem to pop up more and more these days, I wonder why?

(http://www.imgmag.net/images/realist/DRM.jpg)

[ May 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Realist ]



I know why, and the fix is here: www.mozilla.org (http://www.mozilla.org)
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: GoodwillMan on 25 May 2003, 16:50
quote:
Originally posted by Refalm:
Gorillaz used to have DRM protected WMA's... now they don't have any kind of music files on their website at all   :(  


Gorilliaz are to popular, and you like dragonball z which points out you have not taste in anything.

FOO FIGHTERS!!!
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Fett101 on 25 May 2003, 22:22
So... you don't like a band because it's to"o" popular. Typical.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: suselinux on 26 May 2003, 04:27
I don't like the gorillaz 'cause its that Rap crap

Popular?  I thought that the Gorillaz used up there fifteen minutes

Im actually surprised that there aren't any DRM music files floating around those P2P thingies


copperhead said that

the orange authentication protected files worked fine in wine

what happened? what did you see?


I thought there was a Kazaa for Linux?
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Fett101 on 26 May 2003, 08:48
quote:
Originally posted by suselinux:
I don't like the gorillaz 'cause its that Rap crap


Sadly, it seems that you havn't listened to thier CD.

The Gorrilaz do not stick to a single genre. In thier songs you can hear rap, rock, alternative, punk, techno... hell. Even Latino. Probably more that I'm forgetting.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: suselinux on 26 May 2003, 23:28
quote:
Originally posted by fett101:


Sadly, it seems that you havn't listened to thier CD.

The Gorrilaz do not stick to a single genre. In thier songs you can hear rap, rock, alternative, punk, techno... hell. Even Latino. Probably more that I'm forgetting.




I don't want to take this thread too far off topic, but your right.

Im only judging Gorillaz by a couple of music Videos

About this DRM thing though

is the file any bigger because of the DRM

a regular MP3 might be 3megs but with DRM would it be 4?
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Refalm on 27 May 2003, 13:16
No, Microsoft worked very hard (harder than on Windows) to make WMA files smaller than MP3's, in the hope that a lot of people will use them.
My MP3 player can store only 32 MB, so I usually copy a few MP3's to a directory and convert them there into WMA. After it's on my MP3 player, it goes straight into the bin.
Title: A Nice little message from Microsoft
Post by: Faust on 27 May 2003, 13:51
I'm kind of the opposite - make them bigger to go on my (CD based) MP3 player.  I convert all my small, good sounding oggs to MP3s before I burn them so that my MP3 player can use them.  :sniff: ;( makes me sad to use such a lossy, large and proprietary format.  When those Neuros d00ds get that ogg compatible media player out i am so getting one.  ;)