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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: worker201 on 16 September 2003, 23:52

Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: worker201 on 16 September 2003, 23:52
Okay, so I have this old laptop that I just installed SuSe8.2 on, works great so far.  I also have this Linksys ethernet PCMCIA card that is fully supported under Linux and SuSe.  So I put the card in the notebook and set everything up with Yast2, and it seems okay.

Now, I look at my WinXP machine at work and copy its static IP address, as well as the subnet mask, the DNS numbers, and the gateway.  I then input those numbers into Yast2.  The I unplugged the network cable from my work machine and stuck it in the laptop and Voila...

nothing.

Can't use Konqueror to navigate to simple websites.

So what am I doing wrong?  Nothing seems obviously foul about this situation.  Not that I'm blaming Linux; the laptop would have melted if I tried that with the Win98 it had before.  I'm just a little disappointed, and I was hoping that someone around here would steer me in the right direction.  Thanks in advance.
Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: flap on 17 September 2003, 00:48
Can you ping hostnames/ip addresses? Is the network connection definitely up (run ifconfig)?
Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: worker201 on 17 September 2003, 01:10
quote:
Originally posted by flap:
Can you ping hostnames/ip addresses? Is the network connection definitely up (run ifconfig)?


Uhm, what?  As a person who has been running Windows pretty much exclusively for 10 years, I have no idea what you are talking about.  I haven't got any clue about how to ping with Linux, and I'm not sure how to run anything besides OpenOffice.  If you could be so kind and expand on that, I would appreciate it.
Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: flap on 17 September 2003, 01:37
Sorry.

Type "ifconfig" at a command line (you may need to do that as root) and see if "eth0" is listed as one of the active network interfaces.

To ping just type
ping <ip address/hostname>

[ September 16, 2003: Message edited by: flap ]

Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: Master of Reality on 17 September 2003, 07:07
open up konsole.. and "ping -c2 <IP address>"
hmm... also...erm...hmmm...uhhh....OHH! I KNOW!!
Look on your work computers browser (if its internet explorer then keep reading) and go to tools (i think) > internet options
and then erm... connection tab... then i think it will say proxy settings somewhere. CHeck that and see if it has a proxy server its connecting to.


As you can tell... i dont use windows very often.
Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: mobrien_12 on 17 September 2003, 10:49
Are you sure that you actually CAN use your work computer IP # on another computer?  Several of my machines are on a subnet run by very paranoid sysadmins.  They programmed the router to accept packets from a given IP# only if it matched the MAC addresses that I supplied to them.. If I tried to use another computer with the same IP#, or if I switched network cards, the router would drop ALL traffic.  

OF course, they didn't tell me this and it made upgrading a network card a bitch to troubleshoot.
Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: hm_murdock on 17 September 2003, 16:15
I like to hit those kinds of dudes with swords.

If you have to deal with a guy like that... chances are you're screwed. He'll take one look at it and say "Linux? HA! That's a hacker tool!"
Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: worker201 on 18 September 2003, 01:21
quote:
Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
Are you sure that you actually CAN use your work computer IP # on another computer?  Several of my machines are on a subnet run by very paranoid sysadmins.  They programmed the router to accept packets from a given IP# only if it matched the MAC addresses that I supplied to them.. If I tried to use another computer with the same IP#, or if I switched network cards, the router would drop ALL traffic.  


Pretty sure this is not the case -- lots of people around here do it, and are apparently encouraged to do it, since we have basically "run out" of IP addresses.  Work for me is not a small office, but a superfuckinghuge university, and the sysadmins' job seems to be to hide in closets and troll for viruses.

Aside to Jimmy James: we actually have labs full of Dell workstations running RedHat9.  All in all, the building is probably 30% Mac, 30% Win98, 30%Linux/Sparc, 5% Win2000+ and 5% SGI.  If only all buildings in the world were like this...
Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: worker201 on 21 September 2003, 02:02
It works now.  Well, thank you all for your suggestions.  I ran ifconfig and I pinged my gateway, and it was successful, so I ran the Konqueror directly over to Mozilla.org.

I guess the problem was: the network cable was not plugged in when I started Linux.  It must test the network connection on startup or something.  Today, I hooked everything up before booting, and it worked like a charm: the blinkenlights on the adapter were even working.

So if anyone can confirm what I have seen here, I would be interested, if for nothing more than posterity's sake.

Again, thanks for all the ideas and assistance.
Title: am i doing something wrong?
Post by: flap on 21 September 2003, 22:29
Yes, the network connection has to be enabled manually if it wasn't started at boot-time. If you need to do that in the future just type "ifup eth0" to enable it.