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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Faust on 22 December 2002, 13:08
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I got the source for nvidias latest gpu drivers and uncompressed (using tar -xvzf (filename.tar.gz.))
Then I cd'd into the NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123 directory and tried make install but got the following error message-
Can anyone help me get these drivers installed? (TIA)
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Might be able to help if you let us know what distro/version you are running.
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Sorry Void Main - Mandrake 9.0
[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Faust ]
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Why don't you get the RPMs then?
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I couldnt find any rpms for 9.0 on the nvidia site, i dont think they are made yet.
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Linux Driver Page (http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_display_ia32_1.0-4191)
Mandrake 9.0 Single processor kernel driver (http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-4191/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.mdk90up.i586.rpm)
If you've updated your kernel, get the source RPM (http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-4191/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.src.rpm).
GLX RPM (http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-4191/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-4191.i386.rpm)
Don't forget to edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config file before restarting X. The only thing that will likely need changing is replace "nv" with "nvidia" in the drivers section.
[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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Thanks very muxh Void Main 8-)
Sorry about the misspell, has been edited.
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I don't care how you spell it. X11 is the only one who cares. (http://smile.gif)
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Any time XP.
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Originally posted by Faust:
I got the source for nvidias latest gpu drivers and uncompressed (using tar -xvzf (filename.tar.gz.))
Then I cd'd into the NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123 directory and tried make install but got the following error message-
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Can anyone help me get these drivers installed? (TIA)
Either re-compile the kernel yourself, then compile the drivers.
Or, as it says, set IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH. It also says that the kernel recompiling bit is usually best (as in not causing compatibility problems) so it's best to bite the bullet and recomplile the kernel (which is usually good anyway - the stock kernels tend to be larger than neccesary.
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There's no need, there are RPMs for it.
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Originally posted by void main:
There's no need, there are RPMs for it.
Y'know, some things (like drivers specially tuned for YOUR kernel) are best compiled yourself, and sometimes even unavailable as binaries.
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Sometimes, but not in this case. In fact in this case you don't even have to recompile your kernel if you don't have the drivers for the exact kernel you are running. You just need the kernel source installed in order to compile the module.
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Originally posted by void main:
Sometimes, but not in this case. In fact in this case you don't even have to recompile your kernel if you don't have the drivers for the exact kernel you are running. You just need the kernel source installed in order to compile the module.
Somehow I get the distinct feeling that you and me are talking about different things.
Anyway, the best thing to do is indeed to go ahead and recompile the kernel, then the drivers. Or fetch the same GCC version the kernel was compiled with, that's pretty much the same thing.
The entire idea is that a kernel and the drivers won't work properly together (or, better, might not work properly together) if compiled with different GCC versions. That's why that warning is given.
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Originally posted by DC:
Somehow I get the distinct feeling that you and me are talking about different things.
Anyway, the best thing to do is indeed to go ahead and recompile the kernel, then the drivers. Or fetch the same GCC version the kernel was compiled with, that's pretty much the same thing.
The entire idea is that a kernel and the drivers won't work properly together (or, better, might not work properly together) if compiled with different GCC versions. That's why that warning is given.
No, that is not the best thing to do. Have you ever compiled and installed the nVidia kernel drivers? They are not part of the kernel source tree. All that is needed to compile the nVidia kernel module is the source installed of the exact same version of the running kernel. And that's not even necessary if you download the precompiled modules that match exactly the currently running kernel version which in this persons case were available.
If you compiled the kernel, then downloaded the source and compiled the nVidia kernel module you would end up with *exactly* the same binary module. Nothing gained. Much of the nVidia driver that is called "source" is not really source. It's a binary with a tiny wrapper. It is not an open source driver. But then it's better to get the binary modules on Mandrake because Mandrake is screwed and includes more than one version of the kernel and only one version of the kernel headers which is insane and one of the reasons I don't use Mandrake. Now, I wouldn't argue that downloading and installing the stock source for 2.4.20 and compiling/installing it is a good thing, but for completely different reasons, and it is way beyond the scope of what this person wanted to accomplish.
And I don't know why you are continuing on with this because as far as I can tell the simple instructions I gave him worked.
[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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^^^^^^^ Dont mess with void!
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I agree with Void.....As the title of this post says "another newbie question", so obviously it's best to give a simple solution and get the thing done in a jiffy!
007
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And I don't know why you are continuing on with this because as far as I can tell the simple instructions I gave him worked.
Yeah they worked.
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Originally posted by void main:
No, that is not the best thing to do. Have you ever compiled and installed the nVidia kernel drivers?
Oddly enough, yes (for a reason - RPM's weren't available, since Red Had messed up the kernel so some devices wouldn't work)
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They are not part of the kernel source tree. All that is needed to compile the nVidia kernel module is the source installed of the exact same version of the running kernel. And that's not even necessary if you download the precompiled modules that match exactly the currently running kernel version which in this persons case were available.
To compile, you would also need the same gcc version that was used to compile the kernel. It's in the readme, in the Q&A section (this exact problem is mentioned).
Precompiled modules are not always available.
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If you compiled the kernel, then downloaded the source and compiled the nVidia kernel module you would end up with *exactly* the same binary module.
Not exactly, if, as this person, you use a different GCC version.
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Now, I wouldn't argue that downloading and installing the stock source for 2.4.20 and compiling/installing it is a good thing, but for completely different reasons, and it is way beyond the scope of what this person wanted to accomplish.
Perhaps, but if he wanted to do that he'd have to know how to compile the NVidia drivers anyway. Best to give the correct information right away.
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And I don't know why you are continuing on with this because as far as I can tell the simple instructions I gave him worked.
Because you did not adress the real problem, but rather worked around it. Initially he wanted to compile and install the drivers. Installing RPM's is a workaround in this case, not a solution (granted, it's a perfectly valid workaround without real drawbacks, but a workaround nontheless).
Besides, some people can't use this workaround and need the compile solution - they would be left in the cold with your workaround.
The fact that he is a newbie doesn't mean he should not be given detailed information. He can always ignore it if he wants the fast way.
And I don't mess with void, I simply tried to give some more info. Why do you people insist on being hostile in discussions?
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I agree he has a compiler mismatch and if he plans on doing other module compiles he will need to correct this. However, I did not "work around" the problem because that's the advice I would have given him regardless if his compiler matched the version used to create the kernel.
It was apparent to me that his goal was to get the nVidia drivers installed to boost his X and GL performance, and that there was a much easier way to achieve his goal. Unlike you and I, some new users are just looking for the easiest ways to get something done, not necessarily the best. I showed him the easy way. Downloading and installing a new kernel or GCC can be a real trick for someone who is just starting out in Linux. Usually they just want to play a few games and get some work done. They don't necessarily want to learn Linux inside and out (although that would be beneficial).
I am well aware of compiler mismatches as I've been compiling Linux kernels since you were 8 years old. (http://smile.gif)
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Originally posted by void main:
I am well aware of compiler mismatches as I've been compiling Linux kernels since you were 8 years old. (http://smile.gif)
Really? I find that hard to believe, that would mean you were around during the very birth of the Kernel (as in below 0.12). If you were: wow.
Anyway, the discussion is useless. I'll yield.