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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: mobrien_12 on 2 July 2004, 22:07

Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: mobrien_12 on 2 July 2004, 22:07
Slashdot Article (http://slashdot.org/articles/04/07/02/1441242.shtml?tid=103&tid=113&tid=126&tid=172&tid=95&tid=99).  

DHS says don't use MSIE.  Maybe this will stimulate web designers to do their freaking jobs and write standards compliant web pages.
Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: Refalm on 2 July 2004, 22:14
That's the most sensible thing I've heard comming from Homeland Security.

I recommend IE user to switch to Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/) ($ 0, easy to use, open source) or Opera (http://www.opera.com/download/) ($ 30 (Google ads when you don't buy it, so it's no big deal when you don't  ;) ), more features, skins and support).
Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: WMD on 2 July 2004, 23:27
I still recommend the full Mozilla.  Firefox doesn't feel as extensive.  I plan on switching my dad over to one of the two soon.  :D
Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: Refalm on 3 July 2004, 03:33
quote:
WMD: I still recommend the full Mozilla.  Firefox doesn't feel as extensive.  I plan on switching my dad over to one of the two soon.   :D  


I like the Mozilla suite too, but admit it, it's too geeky. Your John Doe doesn't care about helluvalot of options, he just wants something that really easy to use and is feature rich at the same time.
Firefox does this perfectly. In fact, it has a clear and usable interface which makes it even more easy to use than Internet Explorer.

Also, people that like feature rich shareware applications can go for Opera. I happen to know some people who'll only use commercial software that Opera is perfect for  (http://smile.gif)

Oh, and about the Mozilla suite... well, the Gecko engine works and feels great, and it's got just the features and options that are the ones that I want in a browser.

[ July 02, 2004: Message edited by: Refalm ]

Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: MrX on 7 July 2004, 06:36
ive tried firefox and it looks crummy, sure it has the best pop-up percentage, and has a cool logo, but oprea is more usefull. more features, options, looks cool, intergrated email... and has a bar thing that tells you webpage progress. seperate tabs for downloads too. word up.
Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: Werre on 7 July 2004, 13:27
I like firefoxes bare usable necessary bones-approach, with extras as extensions, better than full-mozilla's all-in-one-gigantic-blob-ideology.

plus the cutesy rounded icons of firefox and thunderbird beat the outdated blocky netscape'esque look of full mozilla.

(In process of upgrading every friggin windoze box I encounter to firefox...)

Someone should make a wincrap tool that removes all shortcuts to IE and Outlook and replaces iexplore.exe and outlooks exe with dialog.exe that would tell the user he's a fucking moron. A kludge for windows update would be necessary... neat idea? Too bad service packs and hotfixes usually add those shortcuts back.
Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: MrX on 13 July 2004, 08:34
yes, thats true! mozilla is ugly and boxy like netscape. having just installed mandrakelinux10 yesterday...  ;)
Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: WMD on 13 July 2004, 21:23
Edit > Preferences > Appearance > Themes > Modern

Poof!  No Netscape look!  ;)

Also I use a Mac OSX theme for Mozilla.  Can't argue with that look.  (http://tongue.gif)
Title: Dept of Homeland Security: DONT USE MSIE
Post by: Refalm on 13 July 2004, 18:51
This is the theme I use for Mozilla (Firefox theme also included) that I use now (because I'm on KDE and stuff):

http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla/ (http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla/)