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Title: flash for linux?
Post by: raptor on 20 April 2003, 06:00
when is macromedia going to be smart enough to program a flash version for linux?

I know MACOS has a version but why not linux?
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: KernelPanic on 20 April 2003, 17:41
You mean the Flash plugin or the actual Flash creator?
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: raptor on 20 April 2003, 21:56
a flash creator!
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: TheQuirk on 21 April 2003, 01:36
Because no one will buy it.

Duh.
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: Pantso on 21 April 2003, 02:30
quote:
Originally posted by TheQuirk:
Because no one will buy it.

Duh.



On the contrary, I believe that people will buy it, if the folks at Macromedia make up their minds finally and release a version for Linux! The same goes for Apple and QuickTime  as well!

[ April 20, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]

Title: flash for linux?
Post by: TheQuirk on 21 April 2003, 03:31
quote:
Originally posted by Panos:


On the contrary, I believe that people will buy it, if the folks at Macromedia make up their minds finally and release a version for Linux! The same goes for Apple and QuickTime  as well!

[ April 20, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]



Of course. I'll make up 50% of their client base!
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: Calum on 22 April 2003, 19:21
quote:
Originally posted by TheQuirk:
Because no one will buy it.

Duh.



i find it difficult to respond here without it sounding like i am personally insulting thequirk. bear in mind this is not the intention. here goes.

what? who told you that? it's that sort of braindead windoid thinking that keeps linux off the desktops of most people. i can't stand linux elitists who want to keep linux to themselves so they can sneer at the drones, there's no place for elitism at the MS eradication society surely because it's all about levelling the land for everybody.

anyway what i am saying is HORSE PILES to you quirk, why wouldn't people pay for it? they pay for VMWare, they pay for tons of stuff! lots of people pay for staroffice in linux! if macromedia can't come up with a product people would pay for then i seriously doubt they would have got this far. and how dare you imply that linux users are cheapskates? get a clue!

also, now macromedia have opened the format up, it's only a matter of time before somebody starts making an open source linux flash creator, if macromedia want to get some of the action (i doubt it, they are probably stupid enough to believe the "linux users are cheapskates"FUD that certain people spread around) then they will have to be quick about it.
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: SAJChurchey on 23 April 2003, 20:06
Actually I heard they were going to port Dreamweaver MX over to Linux.  Flash MX may be also.  Just a rumor...neither confirmed or denied...
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: Calum on 23 April 2003, 21:57
all the more reason to send them a lot of emails NOW, have you ever heard of vapourware? it doesn't work as well in the open source world, but i bet there's somebody out there now thinking "i could make a flash program, or i could wait for the macromedia port, fuck it, i'll wait".
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: SAJChurchey on 23 April 2003, 23:31
Hmmm...good point.  Perhaps I should look more into this and see what's going on w/ Macromedia here lately.
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: SAJChurchey on 24 April 2003, 00:59
Well, I submitted that suggestion, and this is the subject line of the e-mail i got back:

 
quote:

Thank You for Your Wish



and this is from "Wish-Dreamweaver"

How come I feel they don't take me seriously :-(
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: Pantso on 24 April 2003, 02:03
quote:
Originally posted by Calum: crusader for peace & freedom:


i find it difficult to respond here without it sounding like i am personally insulting thequirk. bear in mind this is not the intention. here goes.

what? who told you that? it's that sort of braindead windoid thinking that keeps linux off the desktops of most people. i can't stand linux elitists who want to keep linux to themselves so they can sneer at the drones, there's no place for elitism at the MS eradication society surely because it's all about levelling the land for everybody.

anyway what i am saying is HORSE PILES to you quirk, why wouldn't people pay for it? they pay for VMWare, they pay for tons of stuff! lots of people pay for staroffice in linux! if macromedia can't come up with a product people would pay for then i seriously doubt they would have got this far. and how dare you imply that linux users are cheapskates? get a clue!

also, now macromedia have opened the format up, it's only a matter of time before somebody starts making an open source linux flash creator, if macromedia want to get some of the action (i doubt it, they are probably stupid enough to believe the "linux users are cheapskates"FUD that certain people spread around) then they will have to be quick about it.



I couldn't agree more.
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: Pantso on 24 April 2003, 02:06
quote:
Originally posted by SAJChurchey:
How come I feel they don't take me seriously :-(


Strange. I've sent several mails to Macromedia in the past, with the same subject but never got a response.   :confused:  

At least you got one man, so that means that they've started thinking about it and that's definitely an improvement.   (http://smile.gif)
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: ShawnD1 on 24 April 2003, 07:58
saying nobody would buy it is a little presumptuous.

recently, schools in some parts of the US and Canada have been putting Linux on their computer because it saves the schoolboard thousands of dollars. the school is a HUGE base for software. my school has a copy of Flash (the creator one) on all of the computers in the CTS lab (computer room for development, not just word/excel type stuff). if school boards started switching to Linux left and right, Flash could find a serious Linux user base.

[ April 23, 2003: Message edited by: ShawnD1 ]

Title: flash for linux?
Post by: raptor on 25 April 2003, 05:52
quote:
Originally posted by TheQuirk:
Because no one will buy it.

Duh.




I would!

Those kind of applications are what persuade people to stick with the winBlows headache, because they have no alternative on GNU/Linux for what apps they use in winBlows, except the MAC OSX.

I am thinking of writing a letter to MacroMedia

   (http://smile.gif)  

hey quirk we arent dissing on you, just picking your reply apart that's all   (http://tongue.gif)

[ April 24, 2003: Message edited by: raptor ]

Title: flash for linux?
Post by: raptor on 25 April 2003, 05:57
quote:
Originally posted by Panos:


On the contrary, I believe that people will buy it, if the folks at Macromedia make up their minds finally and release a version for Linux! The same goes for Apple and QuickTime  as well!

[ April 20, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]



Flash = goodIdea
DreamWeaver = bad

the reason i say that is dreamweaver is just pansy  
software compared to programming in pico, or any other text editor( NO notepad! :-( )
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: solo on 29 April 2003, 07:30
I absolutely love working with the Flash authoring software on Windows and is perhaps the only thing I truly miss now on Linux... I haven't emailed Macromedia because I didn't want to wade through the Macromedia site to find the email address and such. Plus I don't think unless we can seriously give them hell that they will do it fast enough to satisfy me. I know this thinking is backwards but...

But I have an idea...
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: solo on 29 April 2003, 07:32
Umm, wait. I cant even see anything ON the macromedia site. It's just a baige color (Konq 3.1).
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: TheQuirk on 29 April 2003, 08:09
quote:
Originally posted by Solo:
Umm, wait. I cant even see anything ON the macromedia site. It's just a baige color (Konq 3.1).


The whole site's in flash.
Title: flash for linux?
Post by: solo on 30 April 2003, 05:31
I HAVE flash... flash 6, the newest version available. If i go to shockwave.com i can see the site fine
Besides it is very very stupid to use a nonstandard plugin for your company, even if you did design it