Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: slave on 1 February 2003, 22:02
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It pisses me off.
It appears Lindows.com, in addition to copying the look of Apple's website, has decided to add its own "reasons to switch" list. Here's the Apple.com list:
http://www.apple.com/switch/whyswitch/ (http://www.apple.com/switch/whyswitch/)
And here's the Lindows.com list:
http://info.lindows.com/10Reasons/ (http://info.lindows.com/10Reasons/)
From the website:
1.) Low Cost
For only $49 you get a complete operating system with email, web browsing, instant messaging, etc. For only $119 you get LindowsOS AND hundreds of software products that provide the same functionality as typical Microsoft
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Lindows OS is a really bad example of what Linux is, and what it stands for...
I think the distribution is meant for the dumb and ignorant...
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Everyone seems to dislike Lindows because it goes against the free spirit of Linux and is to some extent proprietary, which is fair enough, but it's no worse than OS X, which no-one here seems to have a problem with.
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Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
LindowsOS is designed with the desktop user in mind and is the easiest to install and use operating system you'll ever experience. You can Install LindowsOS in under 10 minutes. No, really, UNDER 10 minutes! You will feel right at home with the natural and familiar layout and graphical environment.
That's a mis-statement, because after you install the "base" OS you have to reboot and continue to install the rest of the system. SuSE does the same trick.
Extremetech did it in 7 (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,589704,00.asp)
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Originally posted by Refalm:
I think the distribution is meant for the dumb and ignorant...
It should do well then.
[ February 01, 2003: Message edited by: fett101 ]
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my god the look is an uncanny copying of Apple (cue apple sueing)
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Everyone seems to dislike Lindows because it goes against the free spirit of Linux and is to some extent proprietary, which is fair enough, but it's no worse than OS X, which no-one here seems to have a problem with.
Can I (legally, with Aqua and all the stuff Apple puts in it, not just Darwin) get OSX for free? Because if I can I'm going to start bitching at Apple.
The point is, I can download Linux and install it on as many computers as I want, while I have to buy Lindows to do that (do they allow more than one install?). Consumers that get, say, the Walmart Lindows computer probably won't know that they can likely find a better, more stable, better looking distribution than Linux.
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Well you can't get everything that's in Lindows in other distributions, but that's not really relevant. The point is, both Lindows and OS X are just proprietary addons to free software, which I think is bad, but I wouldn't say that one is worse than the other.
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Speaking of booting, we were impressed there too. The boot process is also extremely fast. it's also more friendly for first-timers -- it hides the usual kernel text junk that appears during boot. SuSE, Red Hat and the other distros might want to consider doing this as well. It won't bother experienced users, but Linux newbies could start gibbering in terror as gobs of kernel text scroll by while the computer is starting. We were disappointed to see the kernel text displayed when we closed Lindows down - a slightly odd inconsistency in behavior.
When I first booted Linux, and I saw all that kernel text showing, I thought it was awesome! Kernel text > you (http://smile.gif)
Ok so is Lindows alot better fate for the mass market newbie then Windows XP?
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Originally posted by Solo:
The point is, I can download Linux and install it on as many computers as I want, while I have to buy Lindows to do that (do they allow more than one install?). Consumers that get, say, the Walmart Lindows computer probably won't know that they can likely find a better, more stable, better looking distribution than Linux.
Actually, the Lindows license does allow you to install it on all the computers you own. Just not on computers you don't own....
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OMG i put 'than Linux' !! i meant 'of Linux'
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Ok the real problem with Lindows is... WANNABE-ISM! I think many of the good points it mentions here can be found in other distros.
Lindows is taking tap water, and putting it in a bottle, then calling it spring water. (http://smile.gif)
5.) Lifetime family licensing
It's a free software/OSS/Linux thang, not a Lindows thang.
6.) Security and Viruses
Same as above.
7.) Stability
Same as above.
8.) Openess
Same as above.
9.) Money-back gurantee
But other distros are free anyways...
Still sounds better then Microsoft I guess.
10.) It's fun!
Heh heh hey Butthead, it's a Linux thang heh heh. Ya! Ya! It's a Linux thang! LINOOKS! LINOOKS! LINOOKS! Ya... that was cool.
Isn't XP marketed as awesome and fun?
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Originally posted by emh:
Actually, the Lindows license does allow you to install it on all the computers you own. Just not on computers you don't own....
wait...what?
so you mean if you go to your friend's house and sneak oh wait i get it.
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Using openoffice.org and other free tools which come with my operating system I can edit all that shit and more. Well maybe not real audio, but er, who wants to edit that.
not me.
if i cant open it in mplayer, it's not video, despite what everyone else keeps telling me. :cool: :cool:
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lindows: i really like that tap water quote.
you know it's a shame i hate pirating software, because i'd really like to try lindows out. everybody's talking about it and i want a more secure footing than i currently have from which to slam its very existence.
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you know it's a shame i hate pirating software, because i'd really like to try lindows out. everybody's talking about it and i want a more secure footing than i currently have from which to slam its very existence.
You don't need to get Lindows for that. After all, Lindows is mainly Debian, and you can get Deb for free, or you can also get Libranet, an easier to install version of Deb, that, while still somewhat proprietary (like SuSE, Libranet only offers the older versions for download) is a helluva lot less than Lindows, and isn't nearly so crippled. Not only that, but you won't be supporting the Lindows rip-off of the Debian community and all its work.
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well i just got debian but it's desperate to try and use my framebuffer (which doesn't work) so it'll be a battle trying to get it to work, but i think it's irrelevant me trying out debian and then using that as a basis to slam lindows.
from what i can see if lycoris desktop/lx made their installer a lot more inquisitive it would beat lindows pants down. i have not got much further than installing desktop l/x though, will try it out properly soon. i was surprised to find some of the config files state that they were made with the Caldera OpenLinux installer. interesting choice of software versions they seem to have in desktop/lx.