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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: l0wt3ch on 2 September 2002, 14:10

Title: Linux and me
Post by: l0wt3ch on 2 September 2002, 14:10
I'm kinda a n00bian when it comes to the linux OS, and I was just wondering how well can the linux run windows programs, like games, applications (paint shop pro, photoshop, bryce) and progies like that.  I'm interested in switching to a linux OS but I dont know much about linux OS's so I was wondering if those OS's can run everything I use a PC for.

thx
-nick
Title: Linux and me
Post by: Chooco on 2 September 2002, 14:17
there are 2 reasons i would have for not switching to Linux
-not all games are supported
-it doesn't have Kazaa

although there is LimeWire and Qtella and that stuff, they don't compare to Kaza because they are never able to download anything...they always say closed or not responding   :(  

Linux can't necesarily run the stuff you have on PC but it runs stuff LIKE what you have on PC here are some examples:
MS Word ---> Kword
MS Excel ---> Kspreadsheet
MS PowerPoint ---> Kpresenter
Windows Media Player ---> KDE Media Player

there is LOTS of software to download though, all of it free.

[ September 02, 2002: Message edited by: Chooco ]

Title: Linux and me
Post by: Calum on 2 September 2002, 17:41
re: linux running windows programs. using some emulators and so on, you can run some of your windows programs in linux. it would be a lot better for you though to use alternative programs that handle the same files. for example, instead of photoshop, and paintshop, use GIMP, which is free. and instead of M$ office, and frontpage, use OpenOffice which is free, or staroffice which is cheap.

And re: keeping window sbecause of kazaa, yeah, one of my favourite kazaa features, which you won't get with open source programs is that excellent feature that allows it to send data about you back to MusicCity which they will then sell for a profit...
Title: Linux and me
Post by: KernelPanic on 2 September 2002, 17:52
I agree that Linux p2p's are lame, but it's not a massive reason to stay with MS. Also Calum have you tried Kazaa lite?
Title: Linux and me
Post by: lazygamer on 2 September 2002, 21:03
There is ONE good thing about Linux and games. Linux is likely very good for video game emulators(SNES, NES etc.). It's possible that emulators under Linux would get higher framerates then the windows version. Only quam? Someone had the silly idea of making you have to compile your emulators(not refering to wine), whereas under wind0ze you just install it. Oh well, I guess if I need help with that I'll just ask you guys...
Title: Linux and me
Post by: Calum on 2 September 2002, 23:53
compiling versus blind installing is a good idea especially for a system that is very configurable, as linux is compared with windows.

as for kazaa lite, i have brushed against many fileshare programs but i can only say i have had any success with WinMX 2.6

hey btw, what do you mean good emulator programs? i have several of those but cannot install any of them due to dependencies...

and that's my main beef with linux right now, it needs to be always connected to the internet in real life to resolve its constant dependency needs.

[ September 02, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

Title: Linux and me
Post by: KernelPanic on 2 September 2002, 23:56
Apart from gnuttella (which is really slow) kazaa is the only p2p that agrees with my firewall.
Title: Linux and me
Post by: Bazoukas on 3 September 2002, 01:32
Am I the only one in here that doesnt have problems with gtk-gnutella?

  Just this weekend I downloaded about 200 songs.


 BTW the Word apps that come with Linux can read and write documents that Windshit will recognize.

[ September 02, 2002: Message edited by: bazoukas ]

Title: Linux and me
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 3 September 2002, 01:45
90% of my games work with WineX, and I have over 100 games, so I don't know what the problem is.
Title: Linux and me
Post by: Pantso on 3 September 2002, 02:46
The point is that nowadays there are only a few apps that don't run on Linux whereas a few years ago there was nothing like WineX ando so on. As for other Office applications you can just as easily use StarOffice or OpenOffice (which I prefer) and so on.
Title: Linux and me
Post by: KernelPanic on 3 September 2002, 02:49
Believe it or not I have less trouble with openoffice.org than star office and of course MS office.
Title: Linux and me
Post by: Pantso on 3 September 2002, 02:56
OpenOffice is more convenient for me as well. I don't use KWord although I like it but I do use Abiword. As for my presentations I use Star Office mainly. Hell, you can do anything in Linux nowadays. Who would have thought about that 10 years ago?
Title: Linux and me
Post by: KernelPanic on 3 September 2002, 03:56
A far-out forune teller?
Title: Linux and me
Post by: Pantso on 3 September 2002, 04:09
I guess so, although I certainly wasn't one of them back then. My views of Linux were very pessimistic back then. It wasn't until '98 when I got my first Linux distro (SuSE 6.3). I remember struggling for hours just to get the darn thing to install. Nowadays everything seems so easy that there's no excuse not to migrate to Linux.
Title: Linux and me
Post by: sporkme on 3 September 2002, 04:39
hehehe good point

it is getting easier and easier... and for the things a computer is really MEANT for especially (office/database) it is better.  as for gaming, get a playstation
Title: Linux and me
Post by: RudeCat7 on 3 September 2002, 04:59
Why do you want to try Linux? Are you really fed up with Windows?

Do you have any reason to leave the simplicity of installing Windows programs?
Title: Linux and me
Post by: flap on 3 September 2002, 05:02
quote:
Originally posted by Calum:
[QB]hey btw, what do you mean good emulator programs? i have several of those but cannot install any of them due to dependencies...[QB]


Just out of interest, what kind of dependecy problems do you have, or what RPMs are you missing? I've never had any dependency issues in Mandrake or Red Hat that I can remember that couldn't be resolved with what's on the distro CDs.
Title: Linux and me
Post by: lazygamer on 3 September 2002, 06:03
Hmmm 90% sounds pretty fucking good. How does Wine run DOS stuff that windows 95 would normally run in a  DOS box? If WineX worked good enough(or I learnt how to configure it and Linux), I would say f0ck it, and not bother to install W95 or W98(had to remove it to format my 8 gig)

What about Win4Lin...

Ok, so what is the point of compiling your own emulator instead of having a pre-made install exe? What good is being able to configure it for your system when you can barely make a hello world program, and you don't know shit about Linux so you don't have anything TO optimize it for? Unless compiling it on your own system gives a magic performance boost automatically. Seems illogical, but if it was true... that would rock.  :D