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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Parrott on 2 September 2003, 21:12
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ok im wanting to download mandrake linux 9.1 from www.linuxiso.org, (http://www.linuxiso.org,) and i was wondering do i need all 3 files or just the one?
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CD1 is the basic OS and... maybe some programs. CD2 is more programs. CD3 is internationalization. You don't have to have all 3, but I'd reccomded at least the first 2.
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cheers mate, was going to download it from an ftp but it said 14 hrs @ 17kbs so i decided to go red hat and jew it off the office netwerk :D
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also i was wondering of programs you would recommend i downloaded for using with red hat?
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for red hat i would recommend following the following instructions:
http://www.oldos.org/rhl.htm (http://www.oldos.org/rhl.htm)
see that post install stuff? it's about installing a small program that can be used to update or install anything from a huge database of software. This can also be used for security updates, and it is simple and easy. basically if you feel you need more software than red hat have provided you with, use apt and synaptic and just browse to see what's in there.
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is adsl hard to set up with linux aswell?
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Whats internationalization. ?
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is adsl hard to set up with linux as well?
No idea, I've never done it. Theres a few how tos on the subject.
Internationalization is basically support for other languages so people who don't know english can use Mandrake. From what I hear from Panos some distros dont support some languages (like greek) too well though, which is why he users Suse. (good european language support.)
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ADSL is a breeeeze in most distros including
Mandrake, basically no configuration is needed just plug it in and surf
(Im drunk)
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what adsl modem would you recommend for complete plugnplay(r)... (http://tongue.gif) nah for complete ease
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Originally posted by Xp Convert:
what adsl modem would you recommend for complete plugnplay(r)... (http://tongue.gif) nah for complete ease
DLINK!
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i have a list from my isp i ment to put in that post, ill put it on here in a tic, choose one of them for us, also can some one point out the differences with red hat and mandrake?
[ September 04, 2003: Message edited by: Xp Convert ]
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Originally posted by Xp Convert:
i have a list from my isp i ment to put in that post, ill put it on here in a tic, choose one of them for us, also can some one point out the differences with red hat and mandrake?
[ September 04, 2003: Message edited by: Xp Convert ]
Red hat is server/desktop distro
Mandrake is SAID to be a desktop distro
Mandrake easier to use, run, and manage than RedHat
but because Redhat dosen't put their effort into ease of use, like Mandrake, it has become some what more flexable than Mandrake
They are both RPM based, and Mandrake is Based off of RedHat, like so many other distros(SuSE lincluded), but it has evolved into a branch far from red hat on the Linux tree.
I have RedHAt, Mandrake and SuSE on my computer.
Mandrake and Redhat are two totaly different experiences.
Mandrake makes you feel happy, builds your confidence, you smile when things open, bend your head to the side, and sigh in satisfaction
Red Hat......you feel like you should be doing something the whole time your using it. You can really tell it was designed for the corperate office, not alot of fun. I like Blucurve though
thats the redhat spin on the GUI everything is nice and clean and professional. KDE and Gnome look EXACTLY the same in Redhat 9
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Originally posted by Xp Convert:
and jew it off
What?
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Originally posted by TheQuirk:
What?
Oh yah, you speak hebrew, and lived in israel didn't you?
Yah, not the best choice of verbs XP.......
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mandrake and red hat are very similar.
mandrake 5.2 was based on red hat 5.2 and the two projects have developed very similarly since. red hat focuses on corp desktop & server, mandrake focuses on multimedia and is a jack of all trades OS. red hat is pretty stable, mandrake slightly less so because mandrake tends to use more cutting edge software.
they are different enough to be annoying (eg most mandrake rpms won't work properly in red hat and vice versa) but similar enough that you will notice little difference.
in short, red hat is the WIN2000 of linux and mandrake is the windows98 (except that they're both current, and they're not really like windows).
and as for that racist expression, it's not the best choice of verbs no, and the reason is not so that you don't offend gleb, the reason is because racists deserve to die slowly and painfully.
[ September 05, 2003: Message edited by: Calum ]
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sorry mate, just an saying nothing ment by it... all i can offer is a tissue?
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yeah very funny smartarse, it's not funny to say racist things even if you don't mean it.
not sure whch side of the racism fence you stand, but no hard feelings eh?
and i'm not jewish, not that it makes any difference, in fact i could be a bleeding abo in your backyard for all the difference it makes. :-D
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,12070,1022643,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,12070,1022643,00.html)
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/030820/afp/030820091428asiapacificnews.html (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/030820/afp/030820091428asiapacificnews.html)
those links aren't relevant by the way, i just like to see racists get their comeuppance, although this is kind of like getting al capone for parking fines.
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Especially amusing that Pauline Hanson and her supporters favored tougher jail sentences for even minor offenses. (Including mandatory detention for offences in NT and WA, wonder why?)
Now of course that the boots on the other foot all the Pauline Hanson supporters are writing in to newspapers with words to the effect of "it's a minor offense and she's special! let her off!"
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do not assimilate,
Unfortunately a lot of Austalians think along these lines. That it's OK for immigrants to live in Australia "provided they act like Australians."
[ September 05, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
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Originally posted by Faust:
Especially amusing that Pauline Hanson and her supporters favored tougher jail sentences for even minor offenses. (Including mandatory detention for offences in NT and WA, wonder why?)
Now of course that the boots on the other foot all the Pauline Hanson supporters are writing in to newspapers with words to the effect of "it's a minor offense and she's special! let her off!"
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Unfortunately a lot of Austalians think along these lines. That it's OK for immigrants to live in Australia "provided they act like Australians."
[ September 05, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
im glad that sack of shit is in jail now, man i apolgiesed what more can i do? ps camberra IS a hole no offence!....
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and i think they can keep there cultural beliefs going here in auz, stupid stinky fish n chip shop owners shouldnt go into politics... no exceptions
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xp convert, fair enough, no hard feelings, eh?
i'm just kind of touchy about racism, and it does have a clause in the signup agreement for this site that says nobody can post racist stuff.
but honestly, we've all said our bit, it's all sorted out, and we can all be friends (http://ftp://ftp.freshlybaked.com/mp3/bredren/Bredren%5F01%2D14%2D01%5FSanJuanRoom%5FDurango%5FCo/Bredren%5F01%2D14%2D01%5FWhyCantWeBeFriends%28War%29%2Emp3)! :D
ps: i think he's from victoria actually and is just studying in canberra, is that right faust?
[ September 05, 2003: Message edited by: Calum ]
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Originally posted by Faust:
Unfortunately a lot of Austalians think along these lines. That it's OK for immigrants to live in Australia "provided they act like Australians."
so when the whites arrived in the 18th century it would have been okay for them to be there so long as they behaved the same way as the aboriginals? perhaps, but they didn't so i say kick those filthy white bastards out of australia and give it back to the real australians.
or at least i would if i followed hanson's logic.
[ September 05, 2003: Message edited by: Calum ]
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so when the whites arrived in the 18th century it would have been okay for them to be there so long as they behaved the same way as the aboriginals? perhaps, but they didn't so i say kick those filthy white bastards out of australia and give it back to the real australians.
or at least i would if i followed hanson's logic.
The europeans were the first people in Australia didn't you know Calum? :rolleyes:
Yeah I'm from Victoria, but Canberra isn't that bad. Just need to know the decent places to go... Certainly better than the all-glitz-no-substance affair that is Sydney. (http://smile.gif) Where are you from XP convert?
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born in melbz lives in perth, yes i know were isolated but hey atleast we CAN go to the beach over here with out turning all blue (http://tongue.gif)
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did hansons jailing get international air play? i didnt think any one cared about auz... my bad ey
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Originally posted by Calum:
yeah very funny smartarse, it's not funny to say racist things even if you don't mean it.
not sure whch side of the racism fence you stand, but no hard feelings eh?
and i'm not jewish, not that it makes any difference, in fact i could be a bleeding abo in your backyard for all the difference it makes. :-D
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,12070,1022643,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,12070,1022643,00.html)
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/030820/afp/030820091428asiapacificnews.html (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/030820/afp/030820091428asiapacificnews.html)
those links aren't relevant by the way, i just like to see racists get their comeuppance, although this is kind of like getting al capone for parking fines.
I think it's wrong to call Jew Bashing Racism, there is no Jewish race, most people who are called "JEWS" look pretty white to me (Jerry Sienfeild). besides It's a religion, not a race.....
no offence Calum, just that you sparked a thought.
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actually the hebrews are a race.
the religion of judaism goes with it and i think that officially to be a jew you must racially also be a hebrew.
the hebrews are the "chosen people" and they've gone to long lengths to keep their race pure all this time.
race is not determined by how people look. hatred might well be determined by that but race is determined by genetic content.
to me, hispanic, greek, anglo saxon, nordic, japanese, african, australian, maori people all look pretty much alike to me. sometimes i can't tell if a person is black or not (their skin colour not always being a good indication). when i say alike, compare the tiny differences between human races with the difference between different types of cats, or different types of dogs, or lizards.
there's some evidence emerging to suggest that we really do (humans) all come from the same stock initially anyway.
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To be a Jew your mother must be a Jew. Hence why some jewish mothers get upset at their daughters marrying non jews, whereas for their sons it's still a big thing, but not as big. There is also a Jewish religion, but that is not the same as the Jewish race.
As Calum points out we do all have the same genetic lineage - we do obviously have two legs, two feet, extreme similarities etcetera. Of course the fact that I was (probably) decended from African blood doesnt mean calling Africans some of those oh so lovely words neo nazis spout isnt "racism."
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most people who are called "JEWS" look pretty white to me
Most Irish people look pretty much the same as most Brits to me, doesnt stop some people calling them "paddies" or such. And just because its a Jewish man (i think) saying it doesnt mean its not racist.
Also please note that religion bashing isnt that nice either. Sure I may not remember the "ism" it gets filed under at the moment but if I were to refer to all Catholics as "those kid rapers" I'm still discriminating.
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Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid
I don't see Hebroid
There is no Hebrew Race
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there are only two races, windows users and linux users (http://tongue.gif)
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Originally posted by Xp Convert:
there are only two races, windows users and linux users (http://tongue.gif)
Yah, Im gonna shut up now. I've taken this way too off topic, sorry guys.....
:(
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Originally posted by Xp Convert:
there are only two races, windows users and linux users (http://tongue.gif)
mac users?
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Originally posted by Calum:
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perhaps, but they didn't so i say kick those filthy white bastards out of australia and give it back to the real australians.
Ummm, didn't you just say that racists need to die? Didn't you say that it says not to post racist comments in the agreement upon signing up for this board? That comment sounds like a racist comment against whites. I'm sorry, but you should practice what you preach(meaning, don't post racist comments if you are going to bitch about racist stuff). :rolleyes:
FYI - To jew something is a phrase commonly used in the US that means to steal/skeef something. Alot of people here say it without meaning anything racist at all. It is just such a common phrase that it comes naturally out of alot of Americans' mouths. I don't know where XP Convert is from, but if he is American I'm sure he didn't mean to be racist with that comment.
(EDIT)Oh he is Australian. I don't know if he meant anything racist or not. It may be a common expression there too. ;P
[ September 08, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
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i is commonly used, talkabout talking shit... all this cos of a small comment