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Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: slave on 15 June 2002, 21:37
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25734.html (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25734.html)

I always knew that Wal-Mart sold crap but come on!
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: Refalm on 15 June 2002, 21:41
Wtf? I thought Lindows OS wasn't released yet  :confused:
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: slave on 15 June 2002, 21:44
It isn't but it will be soon.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: creedon on 15 June 2002, 21:51
quote:
Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
It isn't but it will be soon.
That ought to be a red-letter day for an MS-lover; Lindows is so far up Bill Gates ass, they can give you a list of what he's eaten for the last 2 months.
If you want a computer with a REAL Linux OS installed, go to http://www.carbonlinux.com (http://www.carbonlinux.com)
No bullshit Lindows on those puppies, and the price is just as good as WalMart.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: slave on 15 June 2002, 22:25
Lindows repulses me; it tries to be just like Windows (just look at this screenshot (http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_screenshots.php?desktop=yes), and, if you must run Windows apps, why not use Windows?  Don't imitate MS; that's just sick; they should at LEAST try to make something original.  Besides, a real MS-killing OS would be called something more appropriate, like Curtains.  Lindows will cost 100 bucks when it comes out.  Hardly "free software," huh?

Well, at least it gives me something to laugh at.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: Refalm on 15 June 2002, 23:02
It's pretty good for people willing to try Linux and still run Windows applications without installing the supposedly hard-to-install Wine.

Lindows is a great product that will hopefully let's people diss Windows and try Linux.
Just look at Wall-mart, they have Lindows OS already installed standard because they know that Lindows OS is maybe going to overrule Windows XP.
I hope everyone will switch to Lindows OS so that developers of games start working on making games, applications and stuff compatible with Linux, and that's where the interesting stuff will come.
If the 3rd party developers will say that their products are compatible only with Lindows OS (as they done before with other OS's) then their will always be the open source of Lindows OS that will let some coders make patches to run Lindows OS software run on normal Linux too.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: choasforages on 15 June 2002, 23:26
lindows, while an improvement over windows. still isn't as good as mac osx or someother version of linux like redhat. however, it is aimed at extreme linux n00bs so im probably talking out of my ass /*i enjoy typing endless commands on a terminal just to make something work*/. from what i have heard. lindows does not recommend a non root acount for everything other then configureation. hmmm, seems to me that virus's can only kill a *nix system when it is rooted, which is the default on lindows. however, lindows i guess would be more geared towards people who really don't want to learn much when they turn there computer on, they just want to use. and don't try to tell me windows is easy to use. you have to be an expert at reinstalling and reconfigureing it.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: creedon on 15 June 2002, 23:51
quote:
Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Lindows repulses me; it tries to be just like Windows (just look at this screenshot (http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_screenshots.php?desktop=yes), and, if you must run Windows apps, why not use Windows?  Don't imitate MS; that's just sick; they should at LEAST try to make something original.  Besides, a real MS-killing OS would be called something more appropriate, like Curtains.  Lindows will cost 100 bucks when it comes out.  Hardly "free software," huh?

Well, at least it gives me something to laugh at.



No, a REAL WIN-killer would be called Debian, but of course a WINloser woundn't know anything about that (BTW; Debian IS free; and STABLE;  Why would ANYONE pay $149.95 for a system that's designed to crash?  I'm talking about WINXP!)
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: jtpenrod on 16 June 2002, 00:39
quote:
No, a REAL WIN-killer would be called Debian, but of course a WINloser woundn't know anything about that (BTW; Debian IS free; and STABLE; Why would ANYONE pay $149.95 for a system that's designed to crash? I'm talking about WINXP!)
Well, actually Lindows is based on Debian. The main problems I have with it are: the Lindows folks have been playing fast and loose with the GPL in that they are refusing to release the source code of whatever mods they've made. Secondly, I wonder if Lindows doesn't promise more than it can deliver. There are some M$ apps that won't run on WINE just yet. Lindows could be setting up a lot of folks out there who will try it, find that their favorite game or whatever won't work, and they'll get disgusted and figure Linux just plain SUX. Not a good thing. It would have been better if Wal-Mart offered pre-installs of Lycoris, or Icepack. These offer the same ease of use, their developers are complying with the GPL, and they don't promise more than they can deliver.
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Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: choasforages on 16 June 2002, 01:06
hehehe,
thanks xpisshead, for help with naming my linux distro. i think i will call the first release this

ChaosnetOS release 1 "curtains"

r1 is going to be internal to my computer and heavily opimised for the k6-3 processer, it will
 primarly be an exercise in howto build the system with the LFS reference and alot of other knowledge

[ June 15, 2002: Message edited by: choasforages ]

Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: voidmain on 16 June 2002, 02:10
quote:
Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Lindows repulses me; it tries to be just like Windows (just look at this screenshot (http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_screenshots.php?desktop=yes), and, if you must run Windows apps, why not use Windows?  Don't imitate MS; that's just sick; they should at LEAST try to make something original.  Besides, a real MS-killing OS would be called something more appropriate, like Curtains.  Lindows will cost 100 bucks when it comes out.  Hardly "free software," huh?

Well, at least it gives me something to laugh at.



Awwwwwwwwww, too fuckin' bad dumb ass!  Now maybe you understand how Apple felt when Windows came out....
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: choasforages on 16 June 2002, 02:27
hey, this the best thing xpiss has done yet/*ever???*/, he helped me name my soon to be linux distro. nevermind that he talks out of his ass owell. lindows is a good idea, but it still needs alittle help. and about him saying that X11 has problems, yes it has a few like the mozilla font crash but other then that it is great. try to get windows to let you get around BESS huh, it is not perfect, nothing is but it is better then windows could ever do/*please tell me that  :eek: MS-UX :eek:  will never come to be*/. if you are so concernded about it get off yer ass and fix it yourself, thats why the source is open.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: gothwer on 16 June 2002, 06:33
but its proprietary (mostly) and costs $$$

  :mad:
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: slave on 16 June 2002, 06:41
quote:
No, a REAL WIN-killer would be called Debian, but of course a WINloser woundn't know anything about that (BTW; Debian IS free; and STABLE; Why would ANYONE pay $149.95 for a system that's designed to crash? I'm talking about WINXP!)


With you Linux geeks it's always about Debian huh?  Sorry, but I don't have time to set up that confounded OS; just standing 2 minutes in #debian at irc.openprojects.net shows how much trouble people have with it.  Debian doesn't even have KDE 3 included (woody won't either, you'll have to wait a year and a half for sid to come out, haahh)

PS what is this crap about Windows XP crashing?  That's never happened to me.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: sporkme on 16 June 2002, 07:03
lindows bothers me

the point was to get off the ms train
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: markdcc on 16 June 2002, 08:03
Hey XP loser, when was the last time you wen't to your advertised home page?  It seems that 95% of everyone that voted thinks linux is great.  I guess that is why you think you have to come here to try to convert people to XP, not even your buddies agree with you.

http://www.linuxsucks.com/results.html (http://www.linuxsucks.com/results.html)

Get a life.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: creedon on 16 June 2002, 20:47
quote:
Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:


With you Linux geeks it's always about Debian huh?  Sorry, but I don't have time to set up that confounded OS; just standing 2 minutes in #debian at irc.openprojects.net shows how much trouble people have with it.  Debian doesn't even have KDE 3 included (woody won't either, you'll have to wait a year and a half for sid to come out, haahh)

PS what is this crap about Windows XP crashing?  That's never happened to me.

Number one, Needledick, DON'T call me a geek- I'm a 55 year old grandfather, ex-biker, and general bad-ass that likes to fuck with arrogant assholes like you..  Number two, I had Debian "woody" up and running in 45 minutes- do that with XP.  Number three, if I want KDE 3 I'll compile it from source; no big deal.  Number four, If you knew ANYTHING about Linux, particularly Debian, you might have some basic understanding of how a computer actually works.  The SysAdmin where I work is a MSCE, but he can't even get a Linux install up and running; I know, because I've given him 5 different distros, all simple installs.  Jeez, what do they teach in those certification courses, I've NEVER had any formal training of any kind?
To sum it all up, fuck you, and everyone like you, including your cat.
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: voidmain on 16 June 2002, 21:04
Bravo! creedon for president!
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: creedon on 17 June 2002, 00:20
quote:
Originally posted by VoidMain:
Bravo! creedon for president!
I'll run, if I get LOTS of women!!!
Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: choasforages on 17 June 2002, 13:14
mcse, hmm, from what my dad tells me he went to get mcse and he only took one exam, he says it was quite useless and for linux installs, redhat7.3 and debian are easyer to install then windows, and if you can install windows you can install FreeBSD and NetBSD /*can't say the say about slackware though, or atleast the way i did it*/ o and for lindows, the fact about the dev people and the gpl, they are trying to correct that. o and for debian. it is the most *stable* version of linux i have used, hehe, its a pentium 60, and it even runs X, try to get a modern version of windows to do that. well a modern version of linux can. heres the uptime. i would let people ssh into the box, but i don't trust people with my current router setup.
choasforages@choasnet_deb:~$ uptime
 11:11pm  up 20 days, 10:02,  1 user,  load average: 1.23, 1.06, 1.02

as for the machine itself, i guess i could post the output of
cat /proc/cpuinfo

and for creedon's speech, one would have say nicely put

as for XwrinkleyPISShole i find it amusing that u only give credit to the two major gui's, what about icewm, windowmaker /*it is eleagant*/, enlightenment/*more beutiful than xp could hope to be*/, blackbox/*works good on slower systems*/, and fvwm /*good for those reelly old systems and for the old stereotypical *NIX hacker look and i think it is pretty cool*/

[ June 17, 2002: Message edited by: choasforages ]

Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: choasforages on 17 June 2002, 13:33
yeah, but then agian if the source for solarise/*one has desire for a sparc 10 or the likes*/ was made open. it would be unsecure. i think that most Open Source projects have done a damned good job of getting rid of all bugs and making things work better. security through obscurity is wrong. an os's security i think should only be claimed through the lack of holes in the code. which ms would lose sorely. come one, there are more holes in M$'s code then an alcoholic's brain /*mmmmm, tasty alcohol yummy*/

[ June 17, 2002: Message edited by: choasforages ]

Title: Wal-Mart shipping PCs with Lindows preinstalled
Post by: choasforages on 17 June 2002, 14:03
X11, why are you torturing yourself. i have had to make a network work under xp, its a bitch. xp in gerneral is a bitch/*one of my friends keeps xp on his new hp is to call hp and bitch and cuss them out*/but since you have the freedom to do as you please with your system. i don't really know if there is a  mozilla theme for xp other then mozilla itself