Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: www.unixsucks.com on 22 August 2002, 21:41
-
So credon hates Microsoft and all it's OS and all it's products.
But why would a person with this noble intentions use Windows 98 and IE to browse?
There might be some crap which you *NIX fans would pour about being stuck OS but there IS NOTHING PREVENTS HIM FROM USING MOZILLA OR OPERA.
At least if you hate Microsoft so much then don't use it products.
Here is his agent string
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+5.5;+Windows+98)
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: http://www.unixsucks.com ]
-
quote:
Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
So credon hates Microsoft and all it's OS and all it's products.
But why would a person with this noble intentions use Windows 98 and IE to browse?
There might be some crap which you *NIX fans would pour about being stuck OS but there IS NOTHING PREVENTS HIM FROM USING MOZILLA OR OPERA.
At least if you hate Microsoft so much then don't use it products.
Here is his agent string
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+5.5;+Windows+98)
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: www.unixsucks.com (http://www.unixsucks.com) ]
I guess that reading comprehension IS really bad!
I guess I can explain it to you in terms you'll understand; I use WIN98 to copy webpages and articles to a floppy so I can read them and print them at work; if you really want to know, I'm in the process of helping my employer convert his computer system to Debian Linux; after that, I won't be browsing in WIN anymore! reasonable explanation, ASSHOLE?
-
BTW; Check me out NOW, testicle cheeks- it's a little different, isn't it!! Oh yeah, I can do the same trick in Galeon, Opera, Dillo, and any other Linux browser you've got in your tiny mind!
Give it up- you loose!! (I'm sure that's not the first time you ever heard that!)
-
Hey dip shit. What's my user agent string? Don't know do ya. I can garantee you I have never come to this site in IE, or any other site in IE for that matter for the last couple of years. Konqueror 99% of the time here, Mozilla the other 1%. BTW, why did you lie to us? You said you were leaving and never coming back. Just like your daddy Billy you lie out your ass.
And you offered to have someone try and break into your hardened M$ defenses. I have a better idea. Why don't you try and break into my web server and destroy everything you find. My URL is: http://www.microsoft.com/ (http://www.microsoft.com/) c'mon, I dare ya!
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
-
Just to get specific, I've got 4 different installs of Debian running on my box; just because I'm not interested in a technical argument, that doesn't mean I don't know what I'm doing!!
-
Oh, yeah, I forgot; FUCK YOU AND EVERYONE LIKE YOU!!!
JESUS, That felt GOOD!!!!
-
;)
Ok guys relax.
I don't want enemies.
And yes, voidMain you are Ok as I seen your browser string but creedon still sucks. Pouring all that shit and still using IE! What a shame!
I need to start collecting what frustrated people call me when they are desperate.
Sometime people want to see how person looks like when they try to insult him. Here is my homepage.
www.artisticcheese.com (http://www.artisticcheese.com)
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: http://www.unixsucks.com ]
-
No, you have not seen my browser string as I never visited your site. And never will as I have it blocked.
-
Or yes you did ;)
Your browser is Mozilla/5.0+(compatible;+Konqueror/3.0.0-10;+Linux)
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: http://www.unixsucks.com ]
-
Oh yeah, I didn't block it until *after* I got your nice little picture of Bill and your mama... At any rate, it's blocked now.
-
Did you block it by IP or hostname?
-
Both, now be nice and edit your post and remove my IP so I don't have to change it. I haven't fucked with any of your shit...
-
Well, I'm sure I'll be able to live without your visits to my site. Thanks for taking time to make it happen.
I removed your IP as requested.
-
Thank you sir!
-
quote:
Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
;)
Ok guys relax.
I don't want enemies.
And yes, voidMain you are Ok as I seen your browser string but creedon still sucks. Pouring all that shit and still using IE! What a shame!
I need to start collecting what frustrated people call me when they are desperate.
Sometime people want to see how person looks like when they try to insult him. Here is my homepage.
www.artisticcheese.com (http://www.artisticcheese.com)
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: www.unixsucks.com (http://www.unixsucks.com) ]
Peek-a-boo; here I am, back in WIN98 again; sorry it took so long, I had to go give birth to your twin brother, he took TWO flushes!! You don't want to make enemies, huh? Tough shit pal, you did. If you ever see a 6'5" 270 lb. biker-lookin' guy comin' at you, you'll know exactly who put your ass in the body cast!
-
Right now I am posting with IE, because I'm going to play some Civilization 3 for a bit (it works with winex, it's unplayable though) and I couldn't care less about customizing my windows installation because that's the only thing I use it for... games (and with RTCW released for linux and the upcoming release of the Neverwinter Nights linux client and some great upcoming GameCube titles that's going to be less and less ;) ).
However most of the time I use Opera or Konqueror for linux. I'm especially beginning to like Opera, nice fast browser, clean interface, and some nifty features, only drawback are the banner ads (but I can live with those).
If IE were to be a stand alone program it would actually be a very decent browser (though it lacks some features like popup blocking and is a little insecure) however seeing it is so closely (and unnecessary) tied to the windows operating system it loses a lot of points in my book. Just take the fact that that SSL exploit was fixed for konqueror in 90 minutes, while MS is still busy trying to find a solution (and even issued a bulleting lulling their customers into a false sense of security).
That I don't like windows (I'm avoiding the word 'hate' here) does not mean that I never use it, sometimes it is something I just cannot avoid (though I hope this will change in the future, we'll just wait and see if there are more game developers like Bioware and id)
-
That's exactly why I don't disclose my location and don't personally argue with *NIX worshippers. We are sitting in cubes nearby and our war has ended long time ago. So we peeking at each other when UNIX firewall goes down or some windows machine blue screens. He was as blood thirsty as any of you when he first argued with me but then just cooled off when was unable to make a point.
-
Who is "he"?
-
Do you need his name?
-
quote:
Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
Do you need his name?
No, I thought you were referring to one of us. I have a feeling he was making points, you were just not listening as has been the example here...
-
It's identified as netscape becouse i do not reallu update my site, for browser identification I need to get recent browscap.ini file in system32 directory which I did not for a long time.
Web server logs are properly identifying your though.
I'm planning to migrate it to .NET which uses different approach for browser identification.
-
To VoidMan.
No he was argumentive as all of you but just did make a point as a result. Beleive me I'm listening to you it's just that usuall selling pitch you use to convince people to go UNIX would not work here becouse I can see the other side of story equally well.
-
I don't think you can see the other side equally well as you have admitted previously. Since you run a web site let me ask you a question. Let's say you have several subdirectories full of JPEG (or BMP or any other type) images and for whatever reasons you wanted to convert them to PNG. And also lets say that anywhere in any of your web pages on your web site you want to change any URLs to reflect the new *.png extension rather than the *.jpg. How would you accomplish this task using only the tools that come with your operating system?
-
unixsucks i know you usually fail to answer any sensible question that you are asked but i have just one that i would like to hear an answer to.
1) Do you have any worthwile contribution to make to these forums?
-
Will .NET framework would be considered part of OS?
And yes, Windows does not come with graphic editing capabilites. I'm not really sure why it shall be though.
But that's why we have programming languages and tecnologies, don't we?
So I'll write WSH script to do that stuff using .NET libraries.
-
My contribution to this forum is to show you people that there is opposing force to all your "UNIX everywhere" sales pitches.
I'm here to show you something which you did not know about Windows and assumed that it can be done only in glorified UNIX.
-
Well why dont you do it in a more mature fashion and people might cease to think of you as a disease.
-
quote:
Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
Will .NET framework would be considered part of OS?
And yes, Windows does not come with graphic editing capabilites. I'm not really sure why it shall be though.
But that's why we have programming languages and tecnologies, don't we?
So I'll write WSH script to do that stuff using .NET libraries.
What??? You can't do it? Hmmm, are you ready to admit this is one thing that Linux can do that Windows can't? This is easily done in Linux with a single command string on the command line, intuitive once you've actually sat down and used/learned Linux unlike yourself. If you will admit this is one, I will move on to the next question so be prepared for 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, ...
-
Yes I agree UNIX has better command line and shell then Windows.
So if you OS would be able to be used as a rice cooker, will you consider it to be an advantage? Converting files from one graphic format to another is not something what OS is supposed to do. You don't agree with me?
I'm wondering how come you have not used main Linux sales pitch - "We can run on 386 with 32 Mb RAM"? What is the point of that?
And on a separate note. How exactly you do in Linux (I'm talking converting JPG to PNG)?
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: http://www.unixsucks.com ]
-
microsoft paint does not do batch image conversion, please get your facts straight.
-
wow.
GIMP does everything that photoshop does, and is in some cases easier. It came free with my operating system, and since it is open source, will even run on the operating system from hell. How much of the money that you spent on windows went into developing M$Paint?
-
hey shitbrian, get any hits from FreeBSD, mozilla??? yeah, FreeBSD, more unix the linux.
-
Heh heh, Paint... I just wanted to know how much thought and work you would have to go through to do something as simple as this. And by the way, you can download the same open source software for Windows to do this conversion job, but the point is, Windows is like buying a car from the dealer only to realize you still need to buy wheels, doors, windows, etc. But hey, the dash board sure does look pretty. Say you had 1000 images to convert, how long would it take you?
Just to convert the images, not the URLs in the HTML I would:
for i in `find /var/www/html -name '*.jpg'`;do convert $i ${i%%.jpg}.png; done
I'm sure you will make fun of that command and brush it off as cryptic and difficult. But for me it took a total of about 5 seconds of thought and it will search out and convert every JPEG file to PNG in any subdirectory under my web root. And there are a hundred different ways to do something as simple as this in UNIX, someone else would have probably done it differently. How long from the point of being posed with this simple task did/would it take you to think of a way to do it. Sure you could have used paintbrush, that should only take about 3 man weeks. And it could have been any of a 100 graphic formats, or manipulated the images in many ways within the same command.
Sure, you could use Paint but that is like using a spoon to dig out a hole for an in ground swimming pool. I would rather use a back hoe.
By the way, the open source package that you can even use in Windows is called ImageMagick, which is a VERY robust graphics package for image manipulation. You might want to check it out. It's included in every distro of Linux that I am aware of.
Now, for question number two:
Starting with a basic installation of Windows server (you pick the version) set up a print queue capable of creating PDF files from any printed documents (could come from Word, Excel, Internet Explorer, any Windows app). The resulting document should be emailed to the user so they can then use this less proprietary document to email to clients or use on web sites. How would you perform this task?
-
even I almost know the answer for that in linux (of corse i would have to find the thread where VoidMain explained how)
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]
-
quote:
Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
;)
Ok guys relax.
I don't want enemies.
And yes, voidMain you are Ok as I seen your browser string but creedon still sucks. Pouring all that shit and still using IE! What a shame!
I need to start collecting what frustrated people call me when they are desperate.
Sometime people want to see how person looks like when they try to insult him. Here is my homepage.
www.artisticcheese.com (http://www.artisticcheese.com)
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: www.unixsucks.com (http://www.unixsucks.com) ]
remember, many people make their browsers look like they are using IE, because some ignorant webmasters block out all other browsers.
-
please don't ban him, i think he's sort of cool for those times when i'm pissed off and looking for an argument :D
just because it says IE doesn't always mean it really is IE being used. if i viewed a page with konqueror which came in Mandrake 7.9, it would say the page was viewed with IE. how do i know this? i used to keep x-stats on my website.
-
Lol ban him? These forums won't ban someone like XP user for crying out loud. At least this guy has some brains. No offense to the people here, but it would show hipocrisy to ban someone based on how much they can effectively be argued against. Of course I feel confident that the Linux people here are doing an excellent job of 12gauge win-zombie busting. (http://smile.gif)
-
quote:
Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
;)
Here is my homepage.
www.artisticcheese.com (http://www.artisticcheese.com)
Your homepage looks like shit! Very bad! You cant read the text to the sides cause those ugly flames or whatever the shit are in the way. You suck and so does that crappy website!
-
I visited your site with both Mozilla and Lynx...yes I actually use Lynx...I noticed that this was not displayed on the browser ident display. But hats of to you and your well configured firewall. Is it an MS firewall???
-
Well, your site's pretty damn boring. Nothing bloody there. My own page is better (that would be the page known as "Cannot Find Server" at the moment because my WINDOWS 2000 DNS SERVER crashed)
WOOOHOOO
Why if you love microsoft did you sign up at fuckmicrosoft.com?
And before you call me biased, I am using Windows XP and IE6 to type up this -
STOP 0x7E DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL ;)
-
quote:
Originally posted by The Angel Of Death:
Why if you love microsoft did you sign up at fuckmicrosoft.com?
it's so he can mouth off the people dissing his system, that's why i signed up at linuxsucks.org or whatever it was to just flame them lol (http://smile.gif)
-
I hope you understand that "I just Luuuves Winders." Thanks to Microsoft and their OS's like ME, I make quite a nice living fixing peoples machines that have crashed for no logical reason known to God or man.
Friday's little cess-pool was a new Sony laptop with ME pre-loaded. It scrambled it's own Active-X controls and was getting a Macromedia Flash error that would not even let Outlook open. I billed them out the ass for that one.
Before that was another ME desktop used by a company that does video closed captioning. That one ate it's own base level default video drivers and the only way I could get it to viewably boot was with a DrDos boot disk. I backed up all of the critical files and had to do an entire reformat and reinstall because it was carked so badly. They paid out the ass for that one too.
Yep......I sure do love them "Winders" products. If everyone was running something more stable, I would lose a lot of income. Thanks to Microsoft, I know that things will always be breaking down and coughing up OS and software hairballs. Then there are the viruses.......I have made a bloody fortune off of fixing virus related problems that are only native to "Gates World".
Sure I sometimes surf with IE.....I have to use the shit because I make a good chunk of my living fixing problems with it. Thanks to Microsoft, I know that there will always be problems with their products, and my future is relatively secure.
So tell "What's His Name" that I just love that Microsoft shit too. This coming week I have to troubleshoot a 2000 network that just turned itself inside out and shit down it's own throat. "Problems?.....What Problems."
Cheers and Beers
Sleeping Dog
-
My hit counter. (had to put it back up after this asshole recorded my DNS for the whole world to see)
-
well if people will continue to use it (i am actually making this post on IE6 on WinXP, since i have to use my flatmate's computer to connect. why do i get flatmates who don't even install mozilla on their machines?
i could do him a favour and put mozilla 1.0 stable on to save me from crash hell every fifteen minutes but i suspect he wouldn't be happy with me fiddling around with his windows box.
-
I tried Mozilla... wow! It has so many cool things I thought i'd only get if I someday made my own brower(if I got that good with programming). One step ahead of me. Im sure there's several awesome features I don't know about even! For now on im using Mozilla... so why am I typing this in IE? It's habit see, im so used to clicking on IE. Well time to make a Mozilla shortcut(make me use IE less cuz im lazy), MES f0r3\/3r! (http://smile.gif)
-
the first thing i do when using a windows machine (usually when in an internet shop) is delete all 3 shortcuts to IE. Only if they happen to have netscape on the machine as well though, or it would be pointless.
The two notable points here are that i should not have the rights to do this but admins are dumb in internet shops (why else are they using windows 98 for public machines?) and also, they should have mozilla instead of netscape.
Re: mozilla. They need to put a toggle button on the toolbar to switch images on and off on the fly, like in Opera. If so then mozilla would be my perfect browser.
One of the good things i like about mozilla is that it includes a FREE WYSIWYG html editor (which i do not use now i have mastered the basics of emacs). If you are new to mozilla, press (i think!) Ctrl-4 (or is it Alt-f4?) while inside the browser to open this feature.
-
oh! you mean mouse gestures! you need to get opera then, since their mouse gestures piss all over IE's.
personally i prefer using the arrow keys to using mouse gestures.........
-
quote:
Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com: (http://www.unixsucks.com:)
So credon hates Microsoft and all it's OS and all it's products.
But why would a person with this noble intentions use Windows 98 and IE to browse?
There might be some crap which you *NIX fans would pour about being stuck OS but there IS NOTHING PREVENTS HIM FROM USING MOZILLA OR OPERA.
At least if you hate Microsoft so much then don't use it products.
Here is his agent string
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+5.5;+Windows+98)
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: www.unixsucks.com (http://www.unixsucks.com) ]
Cause you little fustrated housewife, sometimes we post from school or work, where they use Windows.
So shut the fuck up and dont go snooping around you moron. Wanna hack somebody? Hack me you piece of shit and I promise a suprise will wait for you at the other end.
-
quote:
Originally posted by Calum:
oh! you mean mouse gestures! you need to get opera then, since their mouse gestures piss all over IE's.
personally i prefer using the arrow keys to using mouse gestures.........
mouse gestures rule!
-
The funniest part of this whole thread is that this poor dick licker has not yet gotten a grip on how easy it is to make it look like you are running IE.
The back door is so damned open with Microsoft shit that anything can come in and infect the family......that is why the signature is there. He thinks that he is getting our stuff......nuff said.
Maybe the time has come for a certain individual to kiss something large and round. Go ahead....try to invade that system that looks so ripe and cherry....probably looks like it is running IE .....doesn't it!
Cheers and Beers
Sleeping Dog