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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Xeen on 3 March 2004, 23:29

Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: Xeen on 3 March 2004, 23:29
SCO has sued a company for using a Linux OS, claiming that doing so violates their copyrights.

Article (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1817&e=2&u=/pcworld/20040303/tc_pcworld/115074&sid=96120756)

This makes me wonder two things:
1. Will they eventaully start trying to sue general home Linux users like the RIAA

2. How is OSX safe from this? It's basically a Linux distro too.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: xyle_one on 3 March 2004, 23:52
quote:
Originally posted by xeen:
SCO has sued a company for using a Linux OS, claiming that doing so violates their copyrights.

Article (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1817&e=2&u=/pcworld/20040303/tc_pcworld/115074&sid=96120756)

This makes me wonder two things:
1. Will they eventaully start trying to sue general home Linux users like the RIAA

2. How is OSX safe from this? It's basically a Linux distro too.

OSX is not basically a linux distro. Its not even close to linux. So, OSX is very safe.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: worker201 on 3 March 2004, 23:59
Exactly what do they think they own?  And which distro does AutoZone use?  The article was kinda unclear.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: Xeen on 4 March 2004, 00:03
quote:
Originally posted by Ecsyle...:

OSX is not basically a linux distro. Its not even close to linux. So, OSX is very safe.


But OSX is Unix, which SCO claims to own.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: xyle_one on 4 March 2004, 00:05
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[ March 03, 2004: Message edited by: Ecsyle... ]

Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: WMD on 4 March 2004, 00:32
quote:
Originally posted by xeen:


But OSX is Unix, which SCO claims to own.


There are two Unix derivatives, System-V and BSD.  SCO claims to own System-V; the BSD one is owned by someone else (maybe still Berkeley).
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: flap on 4 March 2004, 00:39
quote:
How is OSX safe from this? It's basically a Linux distro too.


How do you figure that? The issue is that SCO is claiming there is SCO-copyrighted code in Linux, and OSX uses Darwin, not Linux.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: preacher on 4 March 2004, 23:36
There is absolutely no way that SCO could beat Autozone in a case. Autozone would have to have used linux knowing that some of SCO's code was in it to be guilty, but since SCO has yet to prove that linux has any of SCO's code, Autozone wouldn't have known they were illegally using SCO's product. Worst case scenario, AutoZone drops linux and pics up BSD......lol
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: mobrien_12 on 5 March 2004, 02:54
quote:
Originally posted by Ecsyle...:

OSX is not basically a linux distro. Its not even close to linux. So, OSX is very safe.


Yes, it's not close to linux (it's BSD).

No it's not safe.  Darl and Co are starting to claim they own everything under the sun that is even remotely unix related.  They have repeatedly said that BSD has violated the settlement.  

Noone is safe from a madman.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: hm_murdock on 5 March 2004, 05:28
kinda interesting, Apple could easily drop the BSD layer and build their own new OS underneath OS X

no BSD all of a sudden
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: mobrien_12 on 5 March 2004, 10:05
quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjames.sytes.net:
kinda interesting, Apple could easily drop the BSD layer and build their own new OS underneath OS X

no BSD all of a sudden


Darwin is based on the MACH+BSD kernel.  It would be non-trivial to throw away the kernel and write an effective replacement from scratch.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: solo on 6 March 2004, 05:37
quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjames.sytes.net:
kinda interesting, Apple could easily drop the BSD layer and build their own new OS underneath OS X

no BSD all of a sudden


Er no. It would take quite a bit of development to do that and they would lose support for the numerous UNIX applications that already run on OSX. Unless they intend to rewrite Unix from scratch. Which is just retarded. I would see Apple being like every other intelligent company and laughing at SCO like the rest of us. SCO is full of bullshit and they need to be put in prison for the kinds of things they are doing right now.

There, Darl and pals gets raped just like in Retarded Animal Babies 8 (see Newgrounds.com).
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: Kintaro on 6 March 2004, 18:51
quote:
Originally posted by xeen:
SCO has sued a company for using a Linux OS, claiming that doing so violates their copyrights.

Article (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1817&e=2&u=/pcworld/20040303/tc_pcworld/115074&sid=96120756)

This makes me wonder two things:
1. Will they eventaully start trying to sue general home Linux users like the RIAA

2. How is OSX safe from this? It's basically a Linux distro too.


Why do people like you even try to have a clue.

Your life is pointless, kill your inner-process now.

OS-X is not Linux, its Darwin, there is more linux in the lining of my nutsack then OS-X.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: Kintaro on 6 March 2004, 18:51
quote:
Originally posted by worker201:
Exactly what do they think they own?  And which distro does AutoZone use?  The article was kinda unclear.


They think they own every line of the kernel.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: Lord C on 8 March 2004, 15:23
quote:
 The suit could also create liabilities for SCO, he says."If their lawsuit isn't well founded, they could at a minimum be subject to sanctions,"he says."If IBM feels that the SCO claim isn't well founded, they could actually sue SCO for tortious interference."


That part particularly interested me  (http://smile.gif)
I hope that SCO's lawsuits fall through, and not only that, i hope that IBM turn around and say "hey, wassat all about, innit!" and sue them in return.
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: Stilly on 9 March 2004, 02:23
quote:
Originally posted by BaDDaSS[Mandrake]:


That part particularly interested me   (http://smile.gif)  
I hope that SCO's lawsuits fall through, and not only that, i hope that IBM turn around and say "hey, wassat all about, innit!" and sue them in return.

more lawsuits are never a good thing
Title: SCO starts suing Linux users
Post by: mael on 10 March 2004, 05:53
quote:
Originally posted by M. O'Brien:


Darwin is based on the MACH+BSD kernel.  It would be non-trivial to throw away the kernel and write an effective replacement from scratch.


I could be wrong, but I think he was joking.  Kinda like, change the display, keep the underlying BSD code, tell everyone you made one from scratch-- hence no one is the wiser.

Anyway, this striked me as being funny:

"If Linux does illegally contain SCO's copyrighted code, the company could have a copyright infringement case against Linux users, because users inevitably copy software when they use computers, says Jeffrey Neuberger, a partner with Brown Raysman Millstein Felder & Steiner LLP, who has been following the case."If you buy something preinstalled on your hard drive, you're making a copy of that by installing your software into RAM,"he says."