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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: mc0282 on 6 April 2003, 09:09
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This guy really piss me the fuck off, i want to find his address kick his fucking ass. AHH
[ April 05, 2003: Message edited by: mc0282 ]
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Don't get angry at that moron, Linux will have the last laugh. In 3-4 years Microsoft will lose almost all of their desktop market share. With IE or without.
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Let me write this a second time (fugging browser crashed when I went to copy my reply to the store). Weather or not Linux is ready for desktop use (expecially for your average user) is a valid debate, IMO, but as for servers, using Windows is plain stupid, and nothing less. It will set you back hundreds, if not thousands of dollars (per computer), and will lead to countless security holes. Many Linux distros are also very easy to install, and Mandrake Linux installed all server applications perfectly, without the need for me to set up any config files, besides making a few preference changes.
Of course it's not the best distro for servers, but it's still many times better than Windows, with a lot less security holes and bugs, and can be installed without a usless GUI. This pretty much addresses the stupid comment about spending 6 hours working on sendmail, but six hours is still a lot better than the MONTHS that it takes for Microsoft to release security, and bug patches (if ever). As for the source based distros, while harder to install, and take longer, end up having much better preformance, which will save you money, rather than cost you, like with Windows.
[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: Brad ]
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The real problem is not that Microsoft bundles a web browser with their OS as the goon wrongly assumes, but that they leverage their monopoly to effectively eleminate all competition. If Apple controlled 95% of the desktop market and had been known to use illegal tactics to get rid of other browsers, we'd be seeing this kind of stuff leveled at them. They also used for *forbid* OEMS from including their own web browsers, etc. with the operating system.
This has to be my favorite:
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Those of the anti-microsoft crowd either refuse to acknowledge the fact that an operating system in this day and age needs to be able to render HTML out of the box just as much as it needs to be able to render ASCII; or they're complete idiots.
Ha moron Linux comes with about 3-6 different web browsers, so I think it can render HTML just fine! (unless of course the site is designed with html-breaking frontpage crippleware)
WHAT A DOUCHE
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Linux Sysadmins who would prefer to spend 6 hours working past sendmail build errors instead of just double clicking "SETUP" from their Exchange CD, going home, and having a life -- perhaps even a girlfriend.
That really pisses me off. this fucker has to go :mad:
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In the words made famous by Bugs Bunny: WHUDDA MAROON! :D .
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Those of the anti-microsoft crowd either refuse to acknowledge the fact that an operating system in this day and age needs to be able to render HTML out of the box just as much as it needs to be able to render ASCII; or they're complete idiots. It does not matter that Microsoft holds a virtual monopoly on the desktop computing market. The fact remains that if an operating system comes out of the box without the ability to render HTML, it is a defective or incomplete product.
Since when?(!) :eek: The OS doesn't "render" HTML, and it doesn't "render" ASCII either! There are web browsers to do the former, and text editors/word processors to do the latter. Not only that, but Linux comes with lots more of each than any Winderz (l)user ever dreamed of. (http://tongue.gif) quote:
I think the Anti-Microsoft crowd should spend a little more time concentrating on trying to make their OS attractive to developers instead of complaining about the architecture of Microsoft's end-user desktop operating system, which, honestly, doesn't concern most of the end-users who use the product.
Oh really?(!) :eek: Let's see... With Linux, I got: GCC (compilers/linkers), Qt Designer (GUI-based programming aid/graphical class library), KDevelop (KDE programming aid/GUI class library), Glade (GNOME programming aid/GTK+, GDK class libs), Python, Perl, Ruby (very powerful scripting languages and interpreters), GDB (debugger) KDeBug (Graphical front-end for GDB), automake (Makefile manager), autoconf (configuration manager), EMACS, XEMACS, Vim, and Kate (all text editors geared to writing code). I also installed FOX (graphical class libs + really kewel freebies) as I like it better than Qt or KDevelop. How much did all that cost me? NOTHING!: (http://smile.gif) all these development tools were either right there on the Linux install CDs, or available to download for free! What did I get for doing Winderz development when I had Win 95? NOTHING!. (http://tongue.gif) I had to pop for $100 to get Borland's C++Builder/Delphi :mad: (and it would have cost a helluva lot more, except for the fact that Win 9x was already on the way out). So what more can we do to make Linux more attractive to developers?
Oh well, st00pid is as st00pid does.
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[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: jtpenrod ]
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Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
Don't get angry at that moron, Linux will have the last laugh. In 3-4 years Microsoft will lose almost all of their desktop market share. With IE or without.
tr00 dat :D
Windows codename Longhorn ( i beleive to be the next home-user OS from M$ ) will be so0o0o full of piracy protection i doubt people will stick with it for long, even with its new skinned look (more babyish effects, to follow on from msn messenger5 and XP)
I mean come on, like over 90% of people i know who use a PC, do so for downloading mp3s/films and such. do they really wanna stop 'cos m$ says so?
Plus the fact Linux is getting a lot nicer looking. and gradually becoming more user friendly.
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Yeah the handcuffware in Longhorn will be a definite turnoff for most people. I don't even think Zombie would buy Longhorn.
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Who 'buys' M$ products anyway!? rofl
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I wonder how much M$ paid that guy to write that stuff.
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Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
Yeah the handcuffware in Longhorn will be a definite turnoff for most people. I don't even think Zombie would buy Longhorn.
tough words, let's hope they ring true.
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*cough* What about mac os ?
Its practicaly BSD so that makes it what to Linux ? Like its second cousin or something ?
What is this guy talking about ? Linux not being able to render HTMl right out of the box.
Im not a linux expert so im clueless. However i do know that Pixars last production was done on linux workstations.
i think ...
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Linux can "render" html out of the box. The guy doesn have a fucking clue. Also a lot of Pixar films are made w/ linux - toy story (both) and shrek for a start. Also the new Lord of the Rings movies - made on a big linux cluster. I'd like to see Windows scale to that. (http://smile.gif)
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Originally posted by mushrooomprince:
*cough* What about mac os ?
Its practicaly BSD so that makes it what to Linux ? Like its second cousin or something ?
what about it?
main difference is macOSX is proprietary, it's more like a money grabbing illegitimate brother in law to linux in my opinion.
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^^^ Good to hear. (http://smile.gif)
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ROFL! well said Calum tbfh.
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*cough* What about mac os ?
Its practicaly BSD so that makes it what to Linux ? Like its second cousin or something ?
the difference is mac osX is very good at what it does, unlike windows. so windows is the greedy, lazy, get rich quick, pill popping brother, and mac osX is the intelligent, succesful, "clean" brother. Linux is the mechanic. He is smart, he can do everything, but he just likes to fuck around under the hood.
why does everyone hate macs?? i dont know. because it costs money? not a very good reason.
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Originally posted by BaDDaSS[Mandrake]:
ROFL! well said Calum tbfh.
What are you laughing at? Have you ever used OS X? I really doubt it! Let me quote what a Mac add reads:
"Sends other Unix boxes to /dev/null" (http://www4.macnn.com/macnn/articles/unixad.jpg)
Ignorant bastard.
[ April 14, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]
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Originally posted by ecsyle:
the difference is mac osX is very good at what it does, unlike windows. so windows is the greedy, lazy, get rich quick, pill popping brother, and mac osX is the intelligent, succesful, "clean" brother. Linux is the mechanic. He is smart, he can do everything, but he just likes to fuck around under the hood.
why does everyone hate macs?? i dont know. because it costs money? not a very good reason.
i find it difficult to believe you are ignoring the huge "free as in freedom" situation here.
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Originally posted by Calum: crusader for peace & freedom:
i find it difficult to believe you are ignoring the huge "free as in freedom" situation here.
OS X is not free. Period. I also don't see how it could ever be "free". I would certainly prefer it though since it gives me the opportunity to install a lot of free software titles on my Mac. And believe me, many people will discover "free software" because of OS X.
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Originally posted by Calum: crusader for peace & freedom:
i find it difficult to believe you are ignoring the huge "free as in freedom" situation here.
okay. it is not free. that is not always a bad thing calum. it is when you are bleeding the poeple dry, and not giving them a decent product, but osx is a very good product. i have no problem paying for it. i do however, have a problem paying for windows or linux distros. hey, with osx, i have the freedom to install any open source app, or any proprietary app. you dont have macromedia or adobe software for linux. not that you care anyways. but i do. so, i can run the gimp and photoshop side by side. or open office & ms office, all sorts of browsers. anything i want. plus the core technologies of osX are open and free. aqua is not. and for good reason. apple has been burned in the past with its interface (fucking microsoft) so i can understand a hesitation to release it, even under the gpl.
fuck man. aqua is the cleanest interface i have ever seen. nothing even comes close to it. windows ui sucks. and lets not get started with kde, or gnome, or any of the other window managers for linux.
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okay. it is not free. that is not always a bad thing calum. it is when you are bleeding the poeple dry, and not giving them a decent product, but osx is a very good product. i have no problem paying for it. i do however, have a problem paying for windows or linux distros.
Now I can understand the problem with paying for Winderz, as I know that I will not be getting anywhere near my money's worth. However, what's with this having problems paying for Linux distros, but not OS X?(!) :eek: I've done my part, and kicked a few bucks towards Mandrake and Libranet. In these cases, I did get comparable worth in the form of some excellent documentation. Furthermore, since I have dial-up, I don't mind forking over a few bucks for install CDs either.
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hey, with osx, i have the freedom to install any open source app, or any proprietary app.
This brings up yet another problem. How is it that I can get a version of QuickTime for Winderz, or for OS X, and yet there are no Linux versions? Since OS X is BSD-based, how damn difficult can that be?(!) :eek: It seems to me that Apple has declaired war on Linux and by extension, Open Source. This is not acceptable since they're benefitting from Open Source, and yet not willing to give anything back. This has always been the central flaw of the BSD License. AFAIC: fuck 'em!
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aqua is the cleanest interface i have ever seen. nothing even comes close to it. windows ui sucks. and lets not get started with kde, or gnome, or any of the other window managers for linux.
Go to Panos' post and click on that link: "Sends other UNIX boxes to /dev/null". Take a good look at that PowerBook G4 shown in the ad. Now tell me that doesn't look like KDE. In fact, it reminds me of KDE 2.2! (http://tongue.gif) The new versions of KDE and GNOME are better looking.
And let's not forget what a control-freak Steve Jobs is. Whatever you say about Bill Gates, at least he was satisfied with controlling just the soft. Jobs wanted it all: control the hard as well as the soft. Indeed, when the first MacIntoshes came out, you couldn't even open the damn case (without destroying it in the process) unless you had a special tool available only from Apple.
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Now I can understand the problem with paying for Winderz, as I know that I will not be getting anywhere near my money's worth. However, what's with this having problems paying for Linux distros, but not OS X?(!) I've done my part, and kicked a few bucks towards Mandrake and Libranet. In these cases, I did get comparable worth in the form of some excellent documentation. Furthermore, since I have dial-up, I don't mind forking over a few bucks for install CDs either.
i have paid for suse & redhat. what i got was good. but it was not nearly as elegant and easy as osX. i have listened to everyone on this forum say how easy linux is, and it is to an extent. but you cannot touch osX when it comes to ease of use.
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This brings up yet another problem. How is it that I can get a version of QuickTime for Winderz, or for OS X, and yet there are no Linux versions? Since OS X is BSD-based, how damn difficult can that be?(!) It seems to me that Apple has declaired war on Linux and by extension, Open Source. This is not acceptable since they're benefitting from Open Source, and yet not willing to give anything back. This has always been the central flaw of the BSD License. AFAIC: fuck 'em!
give them time. you cant expect them to do everything over night. i am sure they will port quicktime to linux.
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Go to Panos' post and click on that link: "Sends other UNIX boxes to /dev/null". Take a good look at that PowerBook G4 shown in the ad. Now tell me that doesn't look like KDE. In fact, it reminds me of KDE 2.2! The new versions of KDE and GNOME are better looking.
And let's not forget what a control-freak Steve Jobs is. Whatever you say about Bill Gates, at least he was satisfied with controlling just the soft. Jobs wanted it all: control the hard as well as the soft. Indeed, when the first MacIntoshes came out, you couldn't even open the damn case (without destroying it in the process) unless you had a special tool available only from Apple.
Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
i am looking at the picture right now. i do not see how it looks like kde. i have used the new versions of kde & gnome, and they do not compare to aqua. have you used jaguar yet?
i guess you are right about the enemy thing. is the enemy of my enemy my friend? i guess not. oh well. as for opening the cases, i have not had to open the case of my g4 for anything other than showing my friends how clean it is inside. the response is always the same wide eyed WOW!, and then the disbelief sets in.
this is a losing argument. linux elitists, and mac zealots just do not mix. the more i use linux, the more i like it. but there is no way i would ever pick linux over jaguar.
[ April 14, 2003: Message edited by: ecsyle ]
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What? Aqua reminds you of KDE 2.2? :eek: Man, I've been using KDE since version 1.0 and I cannot see where you found even the slightest resemblance between KDE and Aqua! :eek:
And what about this Apple has declared war with the Linux and the Open source community? I'm using Linux as well as OS X? What does that make me? A friend or a foe? :eek: :D :eek: :confused:
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What? Aqua reminds you of KDE 2.2? Man, I've been using KDE since version 1.0 and I cannot see where you found even the slightest resemblance between KDE and Aqua!
It was your picture. And what I'm seeing in that picture definitely reminds me of KDE 2.2. In particular, the implementation of KDE that comes with ELX PreGold. As for the rest of Aqua, well, I don't know about that as I don't have it. However, I see a great resemblance between that one pic, and I'm sure they meant it to best reflect on that PowerBook G4 they were selling. Did I mention that I was talking about that one pic? (http://tongue.gif)
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And what about this Apple has declared war with the Linux and the Open source community?
Again, this comes from that ad which you linked to: "Sends other UNIX Boxes to /dev/null". To be sure, that could mean just about anything: HP-UX or Solaris. I would have let the whole subject go, as I have no interest whatsoever to get involved in the Mac v. PC Jihad. quote:
This new OS has accomplished in a short period of time what others have struggled to do for years: bring a compelling, widely accepted GUI (called Aqua) to UNIX.
-- Tim O'Reilly, O'Reilly Network
Despite the implied attack on XFree86, KDE, and GNOME, I'd've even been willing to let even that pass. Nor do I really give a damn one way or another about these proprietary *NIXs. OS X can eat 'em for breakfast, for all I care. However this just pisses me off to a fair-thee-well:
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After two-and-a-half years of Linux, I've finally found a joy in a UNIX operating system. And I found it when I purchased a Macintosh -- the first one I've ever owned.
--John Hummel Jr., The Gamer's Press
(Emphasis Mine)
That was a deliberate attack on Linux. I don't tolerate Windoid fucktards spreading such anti-Linux FUD, and I won't tolerate it from Apple-using fucktards either. :mad: (And if Hummel can't figure out Linux after 2.5 years, then he really is a hopeless fucktard. ;) ) In fact, that's even worse. At least His Gatesness has the honesty to openly proclaim what he thinks of Open Source. At the very least, he doesn't take from the Open Source community then stab it in the back, which is exactly what this advertisement does. :mad: :mad: :mad:
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[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: jtpenrod ]
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Now I can understand the problem with paying for Winderz, as I know that I will not be getting anywhere near my money's worth. However, what's with this having problems paying for Linux distros, but not OS X?(!) I've done my part, and kicked a few bucks towards Mandrake and Libranet. In these cases, I did get comparable worth in the form of some excellent documentation. Furthermore, since I have dial-up, I don't mind forking over a few bucks for install CDs either.
the real issue is that people who paid a lot of money for mac software don't want to have to admit that linux software can be at least as good. i get really irritated at this attitude of looking down your nose at software purely because it didn't cost a lot of money or doesn't have a slick reputation.
this is a shame because essentially it's the reason windows users sneer at linux too, they just can't admit that they paid $100s and now people are getting better software for free.
also, i give a shit if decent apps are available for linux, but my response if i want to use, say, quicktime, is not to just use a system that quicktime is available for, the solution is to either write an email to apple saying "get with it, people using linux want quicktime" (which i did) or if apple turn out to be slowass fucktards who don't think linux people will buy or use quicktime, just use mplayer instead (for example, i know you said macromedia and adobe stuff, but the same principle applies).
the difference is making a lot of noise or actually doing something.
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Originally posted by jtpenrod:
That was a deliberate attack on Linux. I don't tolerate Windoid fucktards spreading such anti-Linux FUD, and I won't tolerate it from Apple-using fucktards either. :mad: (And if Hummel can't figure out Linux after 2.5 years, then he really is a hopeless fucktard. ;) ) In fact, that's even worse. At least His Gatesness has the honesty to openly proclaim what he thinks of Open Source. At the very least, he doesn't take from the Open Source community then stab it in the back, which is exactly what this advertisement does. :mad: :mad: :mad:
and you know what? this is true regardless of what you snooty mac users say.
i hope apple rots in hell if they are prepared to stab Free software in the back like this, they abuse a position of trust. there are certain responsibilities that come with developing open source software, and apple playing the two faced bastard is worse than microsoft in a way. at least everybody knows microsoft are a bunch of bastards, but apple seem to still have everybody fooled.
and on the one hand i do like apple computer, but on the other hand i hope they go to hell and take their users with them. i think these mixed feelings i have at apple reflect their internal "right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing" ethos.
[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: crusader for peace & freedom ]
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I was actually thinking about getting a Mac laptop in a few months time. I want a laptop and i also wanted to see properly Mac OS X instead of seeing it on public compueters where I can't play with it.
After seeing that ad : fuck that!
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myself i would probably still get a second hand macintosh if it were reasonably priced, and i would put OSX on it (except now i think they charge for the software don't they? it used to be just the hardware...) but mainly i would be putting mandrake and YDL on there.
and apple are quite transparent about this, if they criticise linux, nobody will sue them, since linux isn't a company. also, microsoft has made anti linux statements and maybe they want to keep microsoft happy. if they specifically say "i've been using a sun workstation for a while and now i use a mac because i am too thick to get used to sun's interface" then they risk a lawsuit from sun, but say the same thing about linux, and who cares? only some nobodies on a bulletin board, plus, the apple army will quickly post "apple are great" comments on said bulletin boards to balance it out as we can see. this is one reason why a company making non-Free software is intrinsically a bad thing, even if their intentions are good.
what a bunch of compromisers. i think i might actually have less respect for Jobs now he has turned into a wuss. he was an arse before, yes, but that's more honest in a way than being a wuss.
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Erm, this ad was also posted in the Linuxformat magazine by the way. (http://linuxformat.co.uk) ;)
EDIT: Perhaps us OS X users should burn to hell for using a *nix based OS, ha? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Should this page be renamed "The Apple Eradication Society" or what? Have we commited a crime when we purchased our Macs that we don't know about? How about you guys kick us all Mac users out of these forums and keep it for yourselves? :mad:
[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]
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look, unix is almost as proprietary as windows, and so are a lot of unix-alikes. macOSX is a unix-alike system where they have taken as much Free code as possible and basically kept it as proprietary as possible. microsoft had the cheek to pinch the TCP/IP stack from *BSD for winNT, but apple stole an entire operating system! apple are a much more proprietary company than microsoft and the only people rally round them is their "radical" stylish "vision" and the fact that in the marketplace they are the underdog (compared with windows).
i don't give a fuck what software you use, but you cannot be so proprietary and elitist and reap the benefits of Free software. it should not be allowed. apple are treading the very edge of that boundary and i for one wish they would fuck off back on their own side of the line or get shot for trespassing (metaphorically).
Yes they make great stuff, yes they have style, but they're taking the piss out of open source software when they should be tackling their competition, other software companies. bunch of cowards.
and who cares where that advert was? i often see adverts for "microsoft exchange server" and shit on linux websites. if microsoft are stupid enough to pay for those adverts, i would like to think people are clever enough to ignore them, and the same goes for apple, except that what makes me angry is that they are clever enough that people will actually be taken in.
I feel highly annoyed that apple would condescend to insult linux users in a linux magazine!
and you people wonder why i get annoyed at apple! well if you can't see it on your own, i can't tell you.
edit: and that screenshot looks more like GNOME 2 to me, just to keep this on topic (something nobody has EVER been concerned about in these forums EVER before).
[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: crusader for peace & freedom ]
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Mac is meant to be some kind of god of open source or something, all it seems to me is that they are feeding off us.
Look at us we are apple we get all the great and free open source software, and pile it all in an easy to use, good looking proprietary system.
We gave back some khtml crap.
Apple is fscked, i still want one, osx looks great and all, but they are feeding of the open source community.
Thats just my view, flame on (http://tongue.gif)
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my mind is being more and more swayed to the view that Apple has used us... :(
now most if not all free software will run on macs due to the unix base.
looking at what we could get in return how great would it be to have apple software run on nix systems? how cool would it be for apple to actually release an open source "emulator" similar to WINE that could run all mac programs? we would get a lot of new good programs eg : games.
yet how likely is it to happen?
apple has doubled the amount of programs that can run on its OS.
in return they still dont want any mac OS programs running on linux...
i feel betrayed. :(
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good thinking. nice to see something other than mac arse licking on here.
it would indeed be nice if apple put any effort at all into making even one of their most run of the mill programs that already runs in windows (quicktime) available for *nix platforms, but no.
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yeah making mac programs portable to linux would be cool. it would mean that by supporting either MS competitior you supported all MS competition. (eg good gesture of solidarity)
by making each OS's programs "interoperable" then their would be more of a solid/united front presented.
note : note an anti mac flame, just a thought!
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this ad was also posted in the Linuxformat magazine by the way.
Now isn't that the smart thing to do? Advertise in a Linux on-line magazine that spreads the most common form of anti-Linux FUD. Take another look at that comment: "After two-and-a-half years of Linux, I've finally found a joy in a UNIX operating system. And I found it when I purchased a Macintosh -- the first one I've ever owned." Isn't that the very thing that you see from Windoids: Linux isn't ready for "prime time", Linux makes a great server, but it's "too hard" to install; it's "too hard" for the casual user to run as a desktop system; the "average Joe" can't deal with a command line, yada, yada, yada. To hear these Windoids tell it, it's still 1995. They totally ignore the progress Linux has made in installers to the point that putting most distros on a system is no more difficult that doing an install of Win 2K. To hear them tell it, Linux is still a "green-screen" op-sys, and such things as GNOME or KDE never happened. :eek:
Let's do a little creative editing here: "After two-and-a-half years of Linux, I've finally found a joy in an operating system. And I found it when I purchased Windows XP -- the first Windows I've ever owned". There, does that sound a bit more familiar? :rolleyes:
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What the fuck is wrong with you people?
I'll tell you exactly what the fuck is wrong with me: when you take from the Open Source community, and make no mistake about this: FreeBSD was made by the Open Source community, it is expected that you will give back to that community. That means either by means of payment and/or contributions to the community, by giving back code for projects whose bugs you fixed, or for enhancements you've made. The GPL makes this an explicit requirement, whereas the BSD License does not. However, what I do expect is that you will not profit from all the work that the Open Source community has done, and then stab that very community in the back. When Apple fills its ads for its products with FUD directed explicitly at Linux, then, that is exactly what they are doing. :mad: Apple should have told John Hummel to take his testimonial and fuck off. I don't expect Apple to assist Linux; I do expect Apple to not hinder Linux quote:
Should this page be renamed "The Apple Eradication Society" or what?
It may come to that, given attitudes such as that put on display in that ad. quote:
Have we commited a crime when we purchased our Macs that we don't know about?
So now you know about it, so don't do it anymore. (http://smile.gif) Or you could go onto whatever Mac forums you visit, and demand that Apple stop spreading FUD against Linux, and do something to support the community that's been their Golden Goose. quote:
How about you guys kick us all Mac users out of these forums and keep it for yourselves?
We don't kick Winderz users out unless they start flame wars and throw baseless FUD about. So far, all our Mac users have been very well behaved. In this case, the problem isn't with the users, it's the company and its ads that perpetuate the anti-Linux FUD that originated in Redmond.
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[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: jtpenrod ]
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[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]
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Originally posted by jtpenrod:
We don't kick Winderz users out unless they start flame wars and throw baseless FUD about. So far, all our Mac users have been very well behaved. In this case, the problem isn't with the users, it's the company and its ads that perpetuate the anti-Linux FUD that originated in Redmond.
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[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: jtpenrod ]
Absolutely no comments... :D