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Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: GhostCow on 4 October 2003, 15:56
You can read all about it here (http://slashdot.org/articles/03/10/03/2127213.shtml?tid=109&tid=137&tid=187) I'm not sure wether to laugh or cry......

[ October 04, 2003: Message edited by: GhostCow ]

Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: Enmity on 4 October 2003, 17:02
shit
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: nintendo on 4 October 2003, 18:55
If that does happen, then  :mad:  , hopefully the government will interfere. I don't think Microsoft will be allowed to do this... at least I hope not.
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: jasonlane on 4 October 2003, 19:06
I concur, I think that this would be seen as to aggressive a move and the work Anti-trust and Monopoly would start to fly around again.

Anyway M$ in the BIOS market, what so they can royally fuck that up as well?
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: mushrooomprince on 4 October 2003, 23:53
Wow, thats really got to suck !
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: Windows_SuX_@$$ on 5 October 2003, 00:28
If that will happen I'm switching to Mac  (http://tongue.gif)
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: Laukev7 on 5 October 2003, 00:47
quote:
Originally posted by KiDwithIsSuEs 00:
If that will happen I'm switching to Mac   (http://tongue.gif)  


<aol>Me too!</aol>

Oh, wait, I was going to anyway.  (http://tongue.gif)
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: mushrooomprince on 5 October 2003, 02:09
But maybe it will encourage geek wndows users not to use the latest windows.
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: MEOWMIX on 5 October 2003, 05:14
OH MY GOD!!!! NAZISOFT IS TAKING OVER THE FUCKING PC WORLD FUCK THEM IM BUYING ANOTHER MAC WHEN THAT HAPPENS!
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: jtpenrod on 5 October 2003, 08:55
Nothing to get hysterical about.
 
quote:

Microsoft said the next-generation BIOS would allow future versions of Windows to manage server blades when they are connected to a system, without needing to be turned on.


Can you say: "Security Hole"?    ;)   Sure, I knew you could.   :D   They just never learn. The A Number One problem with Winderz is all the crap that's "turned on" by default, leaving your system wide-open to all sorts of 'sploits. Just imagine how that will be multiplied when the script kiddies can gain access to the very hardware. It won't be just data that gets destroyed, but entire systems   :eek:  
 
quote:

Both Microsoft and Phoenix are currently arguing for closer integration of Windows with PC hardware, and DRM integrated throughout. Microsoft is planning to tie Windows DRM features to the hardware platform via its controversial Next Generation Secure Computing Base (NGSCB) project, formerly known as Palladium. NGSCB is associated with the next version of Windows, code-named Longhorn, which is due in about two years' time.


Who gives a fuck? All the BIOS does is provide rudimentary communication between the processor and hard: the drives, and keyboard. Linux, already, does nothing with the BIOS once it's booted (it's just half-fast Winderz that continues to rely on the BIOS). All that DRM shit won't do any good if you install Linux.   (http://tongue.gif)  

Even if these new M$/Phoenix BIOSs won't allow Linux,or any other nonM$ OS to boot (in which case, you're sure to see shit-loads of law$uit$ being filed) the obvious answer is an Open Source BIOS. Hell, the Open Source community has already programmed an entire OS, surely a BIOS is NBD to code? That, and an EPROM "burner", and you're good to go.   (http://tongue.gif)  

All-in-all, there's a very good chance that this is more M$ vapor-ware anyway.  :rolleyes:  
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Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: solarismka on 6 October 2003, 21:11
quote:
Originally posted by jtpenrod:
Nothing to get hysterical about.
 
Who gives a fuck? All the BIOS does is provide rudimentary communication between the processor and hard: the drives, and keyboard. Linux, already, does nothing with the BIOS once it's booted (it's just half-fast Winderz that continues to rely on the BIOS). All that DRM shit won't do any good if you install Linux.    (http://tongue.gif)  

Even if these new M$/Phoenix BIOSs won't allow Linux,or any other nonM$ OS to boot (in which case, you're sure to see shit-loads of law$uit$ being filed) the obvious answer is an Open Source BIOS. Hell, the Open Source community has already programmed an entire OS, surely a BIOS is NBD to code? That, and an EPROM "burner", and you're good to go.    (http://tongue.gif)  

All-in-all, there's a very good chance that this is more M$ vapor-ware anyway.   :rolleyes:  
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Agreed!!!  Compaq and the like have been controlling their BIOS for many years, meaning that instead of it being located on the mother board, its located on the hard drive.  I guess the idea being that only 'compaq certified people' can work on your machine and no one else.

But linux can automaticaly work around this.  So no worrys.

Yes M$ wants to link their OS with the hardware, its called a game concole, and when did consoles became ok to work with a word processising app????
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: mc0282 on 7 October 2003, 03:04
Wow Apple Computer starting to look good , PC are starting to stink..
Title: Microsoft Taking Over The BIOS
Post by: Xeen on 9 October 2003, 23:33
quote:
Originally posted by jtpenrod:
Even if these new M$/Phoenix BIOSs won't allow Linux,or any other nonM$ OS to boot (in which case, you're sure to see shit-loads of law$uit$ being filed) the obvious answer is an Open Source BIOS. Hell, the Open Source community has already programmed an entire OS, surely a BIOS is NBD to code? That, and an EPROM "burner", and you're good to go.


Very true! In fact, the Open BIOS revolution has already begun:
www.linuxbios.org (http://www.linuxbios.org)
www.openbios.org (http://www.openbios.org)