Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: Buyaka on 21 December 2002, 23:44
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I stumbled upon this anti-microsoft site, and as much as i agree with most of it, I cannot help but admire Bill gates and his corporation.
When i was a kid i wished to be rich, now i earn 60 thousand pounds a year, and i had to step on alot of peoples feet to get where i am.
Microsoft to me is a young mans dream to be rich
WHAT THE FUCKS WRONG WITH THAT??
When the first car was invented, dont u think he got pissed off because the whole started to copy his idea for 4 wheels, doors, windows etc?
ITS A DOG EAT DOG WORLD
WELCOME TO REALITY PEOPLE!!
Microsoft is an empire, and if i could do what bill gates and his colleagues did, then you bet i would do the same, just like everyone else.
MONEY MONEY MONEY!!
(Thats my 2 cents...peace out and happy holidays)
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That is the problem. He didn't invent anything.
Also, with .NET, he knows more about you than the government.
[ December 21, 2002: Message edited by: cloudstrife ]
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Originally posted by Makaveli:
I stumbled upon this anti-microsoft site, and as much as i agree with most of it, I cannot help but admire Bill gates and his corporation.
When i was a kid i wished to be rich, now i earn 60 thousand pounds a year, and i had to step on alot of peoples feet to get where i am.
Microsoft to me is a young mans dream to be rich
WHAT THE FUCKS WRONG WITH THAT??
When the first car was invented, dont u think he got pissed off because the whole started to copy his idea for 4 wheels, doors, windows etc?
ITS A DOG EAT DOG WORLD
WELCOME TO REALITY PEOPLE!!
Microsoft is an empire, and if i could do what bill gates and his colleagues did, then you bet i would do the same, just like everyone else.
MONEY MONEY MONEY!!
(Thats my 2 cents...peace out and happy holidays)
Competing in a market and making money is perfectly fair, but using the dubious methods microsoft have used is not. Would you say what hitler did was fair because his first steps to power were legal?
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Money works for me, but the way BG and M
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i dont have a problem with people tryin to get money, cause im still tryin to get money. however, when one product comes force fed to you then i have a problem. People ask why does the underground hiphopers hate commercial rap? because of all thier money? no. if you do good music and get money cool, when you jump on the band wagon and talk all kinds of stupid shit cause it sells to a key demographic thats when purists like myself say fuck commercial rap. its all about purpose or intent.
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It's not about his money. I could give a fuck less if he made a gazillion dollars. As long as none of it came from me that is because I don't use his crappy software. His low life tactics make it harder and harder every day to use something other than Microsoft software. Not because it's better, but because he uses closed protocols and file formats that make it difficult to communicate with people who use his shit. If he played by the rules that everyone else played by then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
I also think it sucks that I can't purchase a computer from a major manufacturer without a copy of his crappy operating system on it. I don't use it, I shouldn't have to pay for it. My only choice is to build my own computers which I have been doing for the last 5 years.
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Bill Gates was rich anyway.
He just got richer.
Too much is not enough?
zooloo
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Do you also not see anything wrong with the business practices of Carnagie or Rockafeller?
What about Michael Milikin (spelling?)?
They also made a lot of money by breaking the law?
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
Do you also not see anything wrong with the business practices of Carnagie or Rockafeller?
What about Michael Milikin (spelling?)?
They also made a lot of money by breaking the law?
The difference is we can take action against Microsoft much more easily. Especially since the men you mentioned also have their claws deep into the US government.
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I'm all for free markets and making $$$ but Micro$haft software is crap. The main problem is the closed nature of the software.
Micro$hafts OS's are toys, nothing more.
Closed source is unscientific quakery. You would never support closed door scientific research so why support it in software. Open methods and research have created our current standard of living...closing off free and open enquiry with closed source code and the current trends in copyright law will destroy all that we have.
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Hey Makaveli, if you like being taken advantage of, then hell be my guest and bend over on to what big Companies dish to your ass.
If you want healthy competition which equates to a healthy economic society then by all means go ahead. Its up to you.
LOL. I bet alot of people think its soooo cooooool of what Enron did for example. It must be the bad boy image thing I guess and people dont mind being ass fucked by other people.
And if your purpose is money money, then you are a very sad excuse for a person.
At best your life is very sad, and I dont care how much you make. Money!= in being happy.
Not that money is not good, but life is what we make of it.
So fuck of you dick and go suck on your Boss's balls to get that raise.
And 60,000 a year. Bah! Its good but not that good. A social worker in NYC makes 40 to 50 thousands per year. Pf!
[ December 21, 2002: Message edited by: bazoukas -Angry for no reason- ]
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i dont have a problem with people tryin to get money, cause im still tryin to get money. however, when one product comes force fed to you then i have a problem. People ask why does the underground hiphopers hate commercial rap? because of all thier money? no. if you do good music and get money cool, when you jump on the band wagon and talk all kinds of stupid shit cause it sells to a key demographic thats when purists like myself say fuck commercial rap. its all about purpose or intent.
AHHA! That's why im susposed to despire commerical rap. (http://smile.gif)
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Makaveli, surely you mean Machiavelli? Its called spelling.
Pity so many commercial sluts are stupid.
Oh and dont call yourself Machiavelli, "treading on peoples toes" involves a lot less class than your namesake had. Uncultured corporate arse kissing type fool. :rolleyes:
[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Faust ]
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But dogs attack in packs which means that it would be more correctly put as a "Corporate fish eat smaller corporate fish world"
just my pointless 5c (hey 2c doesnt exist in Australia :D )
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Hello Makaveli,
And Welcome to the forums, I once had this exact thought of yours. It was set in my mind that Microsoft was just a bissness that made its way providing *great* products to us which keep us with the lovly technology. But in reality Microsoft have jumped in the way of bissness. If they did not exist the computer would be so much further. What you dont understand is that when software is free (as in freedom) things are better. It was not just Microsoft but Propierary software altogether that made the Computer Industry what it is today...
And you are probably thinking "Its not bad the way it is though?", well have you seen what it would be like without it.
When propartary software started in the late 70's it killed development. For example Richard Stallman, the founder of the free software foundation has a very very interesting experience with him read his story here: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html)
You are obviously a very greedy person, Microsoft is a plaugue to humanity. You are either 13 years or under or you have a Undeveloped Social Consience. And since your stupid, that basicly means that you are a selfish basterd. And if your over 13 then your mind is pure evil, if this is the case i will dispose of you. And i will find everything about you, just ask The Quirk, he can tell you tales about me.
I AM ANGRY LIKE THE MOST FURIOUS MAN IN TAIWAN
So basicly dude, Wake up!
[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: void X11 ]
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Originally posted by Makaveli:
I stumbled upon this anti-microsoft site, and as much as i agree with most of it, I cannot help but admire Bill gates and his corporation.
When i was a kid i wished to be rich, now i earn 60 thousand pounds a year, and i had to step on alot of peoples feet to get where i am.
Microsoft to me is a young mans dream to be rich
WHAT THE FUCKS WRONG WITH THAT??
When the first car was invented, dont u think he got pissed off because the whole started to copy his idea for 4 wheels, doors, windows etc?
ITS A DOG EAT DOG WORLD
WELCOME TO REALITY PEOPLE!!
Microsoft is an empire, and if i could do what bill gates and his colleagues did, then you bet i would do the same, just like everyone else.
MONEY MONEY MONEY!!
(Thats my 2 cents...peace out and happy holidays)
very clever, but your handle is too obvious. still, look how many replies you got to this!
i wonder how many people will come on here posting questions of this nature just to get high quality answers?
will this be the new fashion?
anyway, for my money gates has never brought anything to the industry and has hampered the development of many technologies purely for his own ego stroking vainglory.
He has crippled the homecomputer industry, and to an extent even the semiconductor components industry, with his selfish moneymaking ambitions. And sisty thousand pounds a year might be quite a lot compared with a lot of people but i cannot begrudge you that, i bet you did work for it and that's a nice respectable upper middle class wage, but gates does not know when to stop. He rips off schools, threatens charities with breach of contract and so on and so on. gates has got a different outlook entirely from you or i.
do go and do your own research for specific examples though.
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I don't usually do this, but this time I will feed the troll....
I really don't care how much money Bill Gates has. I do believe in the capitalist economic system. Anyone who believes that there are any viable alternatives might consider asking his proctologist to return his head to a more normal location.
But I also dislike M$ business practices which are anti-competitive and monopolistic. I dislike M$ more for that than for the quality of their software. Not that their software is great... or even good... but that's of little concern to me now that I've achieved software freedom; i.e., I don't use M$ at home at all any more and hope to be free from it at work soon.
I REALLY object to having any product rammed down my throat. I would object to being forced to purchase a particular make of car, hammer, furnace or breakfast cereal. And that all goes back to being a capitalist. There is no capitalism if there is no competition. Monopolistic business practices are outlawed in capitalist states for this reason.
If Bill Gates had his way we would have no choice of computer operating systems or applications. It would be M$ or nothing. As it is, it is already difficult to purchase a computer without Windows installed. You are not even given the option of purchasing a computer with an older version of Windows; e.g., try to buy a new computer with Win98 installed.
Then go out and buy a copy of M$ Office. Drop between $250 and $450 for it. Use it for 2 years or so then buy another a new one. Why? Because BG and M$ decided that their newer product will create file formats that your older version will not be able to open. Oh, and if you're running a version of Windows more than a few years old, prepare to shell out for a new version of that too. Because the new Office suite will not run on older Windows OS's. But if you think that the newest version of Windows will run on your old hardware... think again. Better plan on buying a new computer too. (You don't suppose that Intel et.al. support THIS do you???)
Use M$ if you enjoy being raped on a regular basis. Support it if you think that one company should be allowed to forcibly rape everybody at their pleasure. If you think that forcible rape should be permitted, well, go ahead, but it seems to be criminal to me (and to most feminist groups as well, but that's another issue).
Ok, you witnessed it... I responded to a troll. You won't see it often. Enjoy.
Jim
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Originally posted by DOSman:
Use M$ if you enjoy being raped on a regular basis.
What more should be said?