Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Paladin9 on 10 September 2002, 08:09
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I once had an imac as my only computer... those were some wild days. Well anyway, lots of people made fun of me a school for having a mac. I would, of course, get pissed off whenever this happend. A year ago, I finally got my own PC. At the time it was quite nice(a year can really make your computer look shitty) and I am still glad I got it. However, I still think that Microsoft is the biggest pile of shit company that ever came around. I use Windows XP ONLY becuase everything runs on it, and XP is the newest version. However, XP is the most anoying OS becuase it gets in your face, has useless features, and... well... it just fucking sucks. I still have my mac, and I use it with pride. I know some Microsoft lover is going to read this and think I am some sort of "macie" so if you think this, then you can suck my left nut.
The next thing that pisses me off, it the price of EVERYTHING that microsoft makes. Office XP is, like, $705 Buck or some rediculus amount. KOffice is probably better, more usefull, can open other programs documents, and it is FREE. So why buy Office XP? I don't understand. I guess that most of the other Office Apps are not on Windows.
Also there is the price of Windows itsesf. Windows 98 is still $200 bucks! That is terrible. That OS is four years old now. It should at least be really cheap, and if not that, then free.
XP Pro = $300
OSX 10.2 = $130 (my favorite)
Linux = FREE
Which one do you think is the LEAST powerful? Well lets see... Linux is UNIX bassed, OSX is UNIX bassed, Windows is... Uh... NT bassed. Well it looks like Windows is the big pile of shit OS with its NT technology(if you call that Technology). Oh look, Windows costs the most. What a big fucking suprise.
Well I think I bitched enough for now.
I would enjoy to hear from others you hate the big evil empire like I do(not that this whole site is about that).
Long live Mac and Linux
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Oh but that's *exactly* what this whole site is about. Welcome aboard!
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For me, Windows XP has bee the most useless piece of crap! ever!
The people at work hate it, and I fdisked it 10 minutes after I tried it at home.
If that thing wont run Lego racer...it's crap! And that bullshit about emulating previous Windows...Bullshit! That thing can't fucking emulate Windows period! :mad:
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I changed school man bcause the one i was going to, they didnt teach not even ONE unix class.
I am not a guru on X. Far from it. But from research i have done before I changed major from Psych to CS, it was clear to me that its an X universe out there.
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I agree, Windows XP is ddictive, and infects the minds of its users, the govenment should put helth warnings on it!
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"When deep space exploration ramps up,
it will be corporations that name
everything. The IBM Stellar Sphere.
The Philip Morris Galaxy. Planet
Starbucks." - Jack
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quote:
Originally posted by SpaceMonkey:
"When deep space exploration ramps up,
it will be corporations that name
everything. The IBM Stellar Sphere.
The Philip Morris Galaxy. Planet
Starbucks." - Jack
LOL, I thought it was funnier than hell when the Huston Astros had to change the name of their ballpark because of the Enron scandal.
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indeed, and yet a prime and unfortunate example of corporate dominace.
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original poster guy, sory to say but MacOS is not only like 100 bucks or whatever, it's more like $1000, how do i get my stupid ass number you ask? i'll shows you.
$1700 US x 1.5 = $2550 CDN
800MHz PowerPC G4
512MB SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA drive
SuperDrive(DVD-R/CD-RW)
56K internal modem
kick ass Athlon Puter: $1485 CDN
Asus A7V333 Via KT333 Chipset / DDR $199.00
AMD Athlon XP 2100+ Retail Boxed $255.00
MSI Nvidia GeForce4 MX-420 64MB DDR / TV Out $130.00
LG Studioworks 560N 15" $189.00 (because mac is built into monitor)
Western Digital 60 GB / 7200 $180.00
512 MB PC2100 DDRAM $199.00
17" Dynamic ATX Case / 250W $75.00
assumed $50 for heat sync
LG Combo 32X CD-RW / 16X DVD $195.00
56k modem $10
mac price: $2550 (including OS)
x86 Athlon price: $1485
difference: $1065
we can now assume that MacOS costs approximately $1065
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oh come on! that's bullshit and you know it!
so what you're saying is that of course all that hardware is EXACTLY comparable?
bull fucking shit.
What if you already own a mac and you already own an i686? then which is the better deal?
what if your uncle has died and left you a thousand bucks ON CONDITION that you spend it only on Microsoft software, then which works out cheaper.
what if you spend ten minutes with your head submerged in ice cold water and then go out to the computer shop? then which is the better deal?
hey, there's an idea! why not try that last one and post back here with your results? :D
your post reminds me of those mathematical proofs that 1=2 and all that crap.
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You had to have paid the difference, at sometime or another.
He's not dissing Apple. He's pointing out the:
price/performance ratio.
Example: The current G4s, have a $999.00 flat screen monitor included in the bundle.
I've seen it, I've touched it, yes pretty, but I'm not gonna pay that!
quote:
Customers are eligible to receive a rebate for each Apple display purchased with a qualifying computer. Example: Buy one (1) Power Mac and five (5) 17-inch Apple Studio Displays and receive a $1000 mail-in rebate.
Who's gonna buy 4 extra monitors? Hmm.
[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: RudeCat7 ]APPLE OFFER (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/231/wo/E6ENa0RWr47oTeq2cc/1.3.0.3.34.21.1.1.19.3.1.1.0?53,8)
[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: RudeCat7 ]
I'm not dissing Apples, but I am extremely envious of anyone who can blow that much on a system. :D
[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: RudeCat7 ]
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i agree with you! however you get what you pay for. there's a reason that macs are more expensive than i386 types. Basically, you buy into one and you get a nice sturdy machine, with guarantees and support, buy the other and you get more freedom, customisability and so forth, but no guarantees of compatibility or support unless you pay for those on top, which will bring the price up and still may end up much more of a headache than getting a mac.
what i'm saying is that while you may pay more for one than the other (and i bet it's possible to pay much more for a shop configured, fully insured 'PC' than you would for a comparable nonguarantee not-quite-new mac, if such a thing is being sold), it is still tough nuts to compare them in this biased way. it just reminds me of those sums where you can prove that you spend X hours per year sleeping, X hours per year eating, X hours per year on the train (or in your car), X hours per year pissing and so on, and they end up proving that you have minus 34 days' free time each year! it just does not, in all seriousness, add up.
[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]
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dude, my example Apple was the one that is a 15" flat screen (CTR, NOT LCD)
the puter is called an eMac look here: emac (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/231/wo/0GLNL03VyWsolG3Ffa1/0.3.0.3.34.25.0.1.3.1.3.1.1.0?115,47)
i'm sure it's a good computer but it's very costly.
as for your 1=2, i can do the next best thing. open up a notepad file and copy this into it:
it's not really 1=2 but it's pretty close lol (http://smile.gif)
[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: Chooco ]
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X hours per year pissing and so on, and they end up proving that you have minus 34 days' free time each year! it just does not, in all seriousness, add up.
hey i've actually learned the flaw of that in math class. the flaw is that they expect you to do 1 thing at once. they may say "you spend 2 hours pissing per day" and "8 hours at school" then add that up to 10 hours even though maybe 1 hour of that pissing was while you were at school. sort of neato (http://smile.gif)
[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: Chooco ]
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The $999 LCD monitor costs $999 for a reason. It's much brighter then most LCDs, and on the ones that I used (a few) I couldn't find dead pixels.
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wow! i could really clock up my own spare time if i learned how to burp, eat, fart, piss, work, sleep and breathe all at the same time!
also, i reckon from reading that example of code that it exploits the inherent rounding up capacity of integers, which is not really maths...
i could be wrong, i didn't compile it to see what it does, but that's my understanding...
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Hi All,
WinXp is what finally drove me to Linux. Worse than bad, without using language that would be improper for children who may be surfing the internet it is really almost impossible for me to fully express my total and utter contempt for it.
I have no opinion on macs since I've never used one, but I'm just beginning to learn to use Linux and am seriously impressed with its versatility and power. I'm also a bit confused by the variety of distros and options, but I want to learn more and am dedicated to becoming M$-free in the near future.
Some of you may find the thread I started on http://www.windowsbbs.com (http://www.windowsbbs.com) interesting. Having been a member there for a while and having helped folks stuck in the mire of M$Windows for a while, I haven't been booted yet, but rather expect it to happen soon. Head to the "general discussions" area and read the thread "am I nuts or is this the way to go" thread. My nick there is dishawjp. Surprisingly, there have been favorable comments from a forum composed of mostly Windroids saying that Linux=good, WinXP=bad. I'm just a LinuxNewbie and would never have gotten as far as I have if it hadn't been for the support I've received from members of this forum. Just thought that some of you might be interested in what I said there.
With only about 2 weeks into Linux, I'm sitting in front of a very old computer connecting with [email protected], listening to a music CD, checking out CarbonLinux.com for my next toy, reading and sending e-mail and working towards full freedom from M$. Oh, did I mention that I was swilling beer? Well, if this is a totally incoherent post, forgive me. I'm just so fu@king happy to be finally being able to work towards getting out of Windows hell forever that it's hard to contain myself.
Jim
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Good post dosman! The release of Windows95 is what drove me full throttle into Linux even though I had been using it at work long before that. (http://smile.gif)
[ September 13, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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dude, comeon, your on a website with the word FUCK written on it, come one, vent about how shitty windows is. i mean for files systems, ummm, beat reiserfs i bet windows can't. beat xfs, or ffs, but just not ext2/3. hmmmm, performance, can you play 700meg divx on your 400mhz k6-3 under windows, while running at a screen res of 1600x1200?. hell, is your gui even fluid at 1600x1200 on a 400mhz box?. mine is, then agian, gnome2 is a bit faster then gnome1.4. but still. and for the ultimate, can i build my own version of windows from scratch? NO.
and btw, anyone with real info and not just assumtions, can you say some stuff aobut the performance of linux filesystems/*reiserfs, xfs, jfs, ext3 and other friends, preferably journald*/
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Hmmmmm...I like that!
Linux=good
WindowsXP=bad
Linux=good
WindowsXP=bad
Linux=good
WindowsXP=badLinux=good
WINDOWXP=BAD LINUX=GOOD!
WINDOWSXP=BAD LINUX=GOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!
JK :D
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Hi Guys,
Chaosforages, under special circumstances, I use foul language. I found this site when, in exterme frustration with Windows I typed "fuck Windows" into google. On all my Windows computers I have a "shit.bat" and a "fuck.bat" file that return special messages when I type those words at the command line. I'm no Puritan, but I tend to use profanity as a next-to-last resort. The last resort.... well, I don't want homeland security knocking down my doors, so I'll leave that unsaid :)
Void Main, your help has been invaluable in helping me free myself from M$ slavery. You, Creedon, Master of Reality /Bob and others gave me tne encouragement and support I needed to break the chains.
Oh, did I mention that I'm totally hammered? On the second 12 pack. So forgive me if I step on some toes or forget to mention others who have helped me here.
I really love the power of the Linus command line. I've always been a "command line" kind of guy. Be it Unix, VMS or DOS, or that lousy excuse for an OS Windows, lived and worked with the command line. One problem I am currently having with Linux is configuring "mail." It gives the retuen address of [email protected]. Sends mail fine, but folks can't easily reply to it. I edited the pinerc file so that works fine, but the plain old Unix mail is still hosed and that's what I'd rather use. It's a command line thing.
Dsmn , I'm drunk.... and need to head to the 'fridge for more beer.
Later,
Jim
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Originally posted by Calum:
also, i reckon from reading that example of code that it exploits the inherent rounding up capacity of integers, which is not really maths...
close but no cigar, it actually rounds down. the first number 20 is divited by 10.1 (or whatever it was) and it's something like 1.98 but since the total is an integer it rounds down to 1, thus 1.98 == 1 (http://smile.gif)
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quote:
Originally posted by DOSman:
Hi Guys,
Oh, did I mention that I'm totally hammered? On the second 12 pack. So forgive me if I step on some toes or forget to mention others who have helped me here.
Dsmn , I'm drunk.... and need to head to the 'fridge for more beer.
Later,
Jim
you CruNk Mf, heres to you!!
FRom HpC
written in Fluent DrunkeNeese
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dosman, i can't read your post. i got banned from the windows BS in the first five minutes of posting there, even though i was civil, coherent and posted no bad language.
cunts.