Stop Microsoft

Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: smokey on 22 December 2002, 19:41

Title: death to x86
Post by: smokey on 22 December 2002, 19:41
/* Ranting!! */

With all of the (future) developments working on the x86 and soon to be x86-64 architectures I will NOT be surprised if it dies for one reason or another. This could be because of their (Intel and AMD's) attempts to continuously hack extras onto this two decade old architecture.

The windows platform could also lead to the death of the x86 because users of this platform and of windows who upgrade will be denied basic computer freedoms such as being able to code your own apps and copy documents from source a to b.


/* Ok thats enough ranting for this minute */

Some feedback would be great!

btw. quick note
It's probably just my overly paranoid delusions but am I welcome here on the MES forums? just being my usual paranoid self   :D  

[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: void smokey_mcp0t ]

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Title: death to x86
Post by: psyjax on 22 December 2002, 20:53
huh... why woulden't you be welcome?
Title: death to x86
Post by: lazygamer on 22 December 2002, 22:49
Any way to make software that can take X86 commands from a program, then convert them into equiavlents for a new architecture? What about making a new architecture that has a high degree of X86 compatibility, without a degrade in superiority over X86?

Ya ya if you want to 0ld$k00l 10 years from now as a hobby, get an old X86 etc. Can it be done or not?  ;)

I admit, if there was new thinking in game design in a linux future(less corp more gamer), and Wind0ze was dead, I would wholeheartedly support a new revolutionary chip.
Title: death to x86
Post by: voidmain on 22 December 2002, 23:20
It's already been done. HP has built these chips that are part RISC and part x86 and can run code from either. You probably can't afford them though, they are used on high end systems.

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Maybe they still haven't done it but are still working toward it:

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-816291.html?legacy=zdnn (http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-816291.html?legacy=zdnn)

Damn they're slow. I went to a presentation on the subject in the HP offices a couple of years ago (had to sign a non-disclosure agreement because they were still in the development stages).
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Title: death to x86
Post by: Kintaro on 24 December 2002, 12:38
86 sux0rz
Title: death to x86
Post by: Calum on 24 December 2002, 12:56
quote:
Originally posted by void main:

Damn they're slow. I went to a presentation on the subject in the HP offices a couple of years ago (had to sign a non-disclosure agreement because they were still in the development stages).



but you're disclosing it to us now...
Title: death to x86
Post by: voidmain on 24 December 2002, 13:02
quote:
Originally posted by Calum:


but you're disclosing it to us now...



I didn't disclose anything. In fact I said much less about it than what is printed in the article. In fact I really don't know much about it at all. We were looking at some new systems and they gave us about an hour on the subject of the new chip and what it's capabilities were going to be. I have to admit that I personally wasn't very impressed because I had no need to run any x86 software.
Title: death to x86
Post by: preacher on 25 December 2002, 04:57
Simply put x86 is an old architecture, just like unix is an old OS. Everyone knows that it takes time to reach perfection.
Title: death to x86
Post by: lazygamer on 25 December 2002, 05:03
WHAT?! So you mean the ancient x86 is not a cheap shoddy massmarket piece of shit, but a work in progress?
Title: death to x86
Post by: choasforages on 25 December 2002, 19:33
umm, lets see, m68k. during the mid 1990's they burried   it and in most places replaced it with ppc, sun did so with the sparc, apple with the ppc, and NeXT got bought by apple. hell, even the amiga is heading towards ppc. why don't they replace x86 with alpha or something. too bad intel and microsoft are wayy too close

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