Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Stryker on 4 July 2003, 04:21
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I'm just curious to see which will get more popular... the one that says ignore, or the one that says don't ignore.
I like milk and cookies.
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I decided to ignore it just to annoy you. (http://tongue.gif)
Oh, wait...
[ July 03, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
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I cannot be annoyed, I'll ignore you as revenge for trying... hmm?
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to give this thread some life look here (http://netcraft.com)
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Thank you for that, It's been bothering me for so long that I couldn't remember that name... netcraft, you just cured weeks of agony.
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go here (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph) and you can find out what site is running what server just by typing in a domaine.
a sister company to my ISP (shaw cable) is running Microsuck for thier isp services..........MS owns 600 million$$ of the isp (rogers cable)
[ July 03, 2003: Message edited by: suselinux ]
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The Canadian Gov. runs solaris/Apache
canada.gc.ca
the BC government runs.........Bindoze NT4/IIS
:eek:
gov.bc.ca
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I'll take this time to tell everyone a bit about myself for no apparent reason. I live in North East Ohio, my favorite color is green, and have used Macintoshes my whole life (at least up until this year when my school got new dells, I hate it). I'm currently typing this on a PowerMac 5500/225 running Mac OS 9.1. It sits on a four computer network that I set up myself. I get my mail at planet-save.com so that I save rainforest with every e-mail. In my school's band I'm in percussion, but this marching season I'm going to play cymbals. I think I've droned on about myself long enough.
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i am ecsyle. i used to be xile, then xyle, but i evolved into a 6 letter name. With 6 letters came 6 styles, and each one harder to master than the ones before it. here is a photo (http://www.ecsyle.com/pictures/files/0318%20spoonsye01c.jpg)
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I am Laukev7, a French Canadian science student called [edited], with a very unimaginative and obvious nickname. This is my first forum, where I have been lurking for way too long before posting anything. I speak four languages -- French, English, German and Spanish. I am a proud Apple lover and Microsoft hater, and a not-so-proud owner of a PC which I am stuck with, condemned to switching constantly between OSes. I have no life and no job, but am trying to amend that.
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best movie ever
(http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~dirknetz/silent/bilder/ronin.jpg)
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My name is Bob McDonald and I am from the planet Zragton Zeta III. I have come to Earth to inspect your cheese and to taste it in the name of the Semi-Galactic Overlord Empire Galaxy Imperium Republic. I have two heads, one eye, fourteen noses and I am the color neon pink. I also enjoy slaughtering puny humans in my spare time.
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My name is (what?) Roman (ain't kiddin')and Ima member of a Small-Boxes' Haters Sect. On every third Monday all members worship the great God of Big Boxes, then take their ritual AK-74s and shoot the shit out of people suspected in using small boxes.
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I am (...). I live in Nijmegen, a town in the Netherlands. I currently work at a computer-store, building AMD's and Intel computers. I have to install Windows XP Home Edition on it. It's very annoying, because it sometimes produces BSOD while installing it. I always enjoy inserting a Knoppix CD after Windows failed, because Knoppix always run flawlessly. One little setting in the motherboard wrong, and Windows can't handle it anymore, cries like a baby and feeds you a BSOD in panic (yes, Windows XP). So next time you buy a computer with Windows XP pre-installed, and think: "wow, this is cool and it runs so stable", then remind you that the people at the computer-store had to mess with settings, because Windows can't handle hardware as good as Linux can.
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I decided to add a couple more images to my signature. I also think that I should convert my quotes to pictures so that they take up less room. By the way, keep posting. This thread isn't more popular than the other one yet.
[ July 06, 2003: Message edited by: M51DPS ]
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Bah. I might as well tell people about myself, not unlike the others in this thread.
My name is Gleb, and I'm a mere highschool student. Once I hit college, I plan to study physics or math. I speak English, Russian, and Hebrew fluently (as well as write and read them perfectly), and am currently learning French in a classroom (after learning three languages very well just by growing up around them, I now find that classes do not give justice to language learning).
I grew up in Minsk (Belarus--I usually say Russia, because most don't know that Belarus actually exists, sadly), Jerusalem (Israel, I'm sure you know), and Houston (Texas).
I exclusivly use Slackware Linux, unless I have to do something special with Windows (sometimes something does arouse and I have to install it).
As a hobby, I program and mess around with hardware, and enjoying reading up on both.
[ July 07, 2003: Message edited by: TheQuirk ]
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I only speak French and English fluently; I learnt Spanish and German at school. I once travelled to Europe for two weeks -- an experience I have thoroughly enjoyed. I mostly visited France, some bits of Belgium and Netherlands, and briefly Monaco and Germany. Today I mostly waste my time on the computer. I really need to find something else to do.
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Gleb would be a cool name to have, but not as cool as Bob of course. I hope to visit Europe someday (I don't think Canada exactly counts as Europe).
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okay. i guess i can actually tell a little bit about myself. My real name is Roy. I write ecsyle. By write i mean, i sign all of my art with ecsyle. It was my graffiti name, but my art evolved and graffiti become like nothing to me. I am a self-taught artist and have been drawing for as long as i can remember. For the last few years though, i have been hooked on the computer, and have neglected my art altogether. This is changing as i more frequently turn the damn machines off. I used to write (poetry, and other crap ;) , and was actually good at it, but have been out of practice for a long time. My writing now is choppy and my vocabulary is non-existent. I used to be into the "rave" thing until it died and was replaced by drug hungry pre-teens who molest each other on the floor. Now i am really finding myself into hip hop again, real hip hop, like eyedea, slug, prince paul, brother ali. none of this "gangsta" rap crap. I do enjoy almost all types of music, and have been listening to alot of, i guess you could call it "emo". I couldn't turn a computer on in '99. I used windows up until last summer when a freind traded me his old g4 for some POS pda (sucker ;) ). After that i installed linux on an old machine and have been geeking out ever since. It has gotten worse, so like i said, i turn the damn machines off. I read in my free-time. Currently i am reading this book about zen & japanese culture. More specifically, the impact on japanese culture. I have just finished Shogun by james clavell, and it has spun me in the crazy japanese fetish now. I am also reading martin elsens theater of the absurd, which is about the theater of the absurd and some of the more dynamic writers of the style. I do not know much about theater, so this, i think, is a great way to be introduced. My favorite book to this day reamains a toss up between the Dune, and Nine Princes in Amber. actually, i guess it would be the first 3 dune books and the first 5 amber books. whatever. they kick ass. I have just started a small design firm with a few freinds called Eskador, and it is showing alot of potential. hopefully it keeps up ;)
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Yesterday I had a short talk with myself:
-NikS, shut the f*ck up OR post smth normal.
-Why? Come on, that thing 'bout Ak74's was cool!
-Your last post was shit and you do know it.
So I decided to tell smth about myself too.
As I have already told, my name is Roman. (by the way, it's pronounced romAn - they called me rOman in the US (http://smile.gif) ) I speak Russian, English and German (a bit) and plan to learn Korean.
I used to be a member of a "military sport-technical club" - I got some weapons&vehicles experience (I still don't understand how those cinema commandos fire AK's in full auto and hit the target with all 30 bullets (http://smile.gif) ), did two trips to the US and four to China.
I even tried to write smth (the result was 2 chapters of a well-(un)known (un)published "Rotten-Life : Adventures in Black Mess-up", a (supposed-to-be) parody on Half-Life.)
PS Oh, and I had a birthday three days ago. (http://smile.gif)
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happy bday NikS (http://smile.gif)
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Hey, I had a birthday 8 days ago. So now it's my unbirthday. A very merry unbirthday, to me.
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Happy birthday.
Odd. My dad's birthday was yesterday.
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My 18th birthday was a few weeks ago, june 16th. 7 days before the announcement of the G5!
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there are alot of birthdays this time of year. at least, out of the people i know, most of the bdays all around the end of june, beginning of july. last week was fun, there were like 5 bdays to celebrate, and believe me, we did exactly that. i am fucking beat. i stayed home from work yesterday because the weekend killed me ;)
[ July 08, 2003: Message edited by: ecsyle:951 ]
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hmm....i just turned 16 june 20th....
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16??
Bunch a bloody kids in here
damn amenimity
How old are most of you people?
Im 21--------and feelin' dorkier by the minute
no offence ment to anyone..... just in shock
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im 22. i turned 22 in march.
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I wonder who's the youngest active member here
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meh name is william lahti but i keep the handle of FuRY for the effect. i code. alot. i also play with gimp a lot. im currently involved in the slicker project, for which i did a lot of the current taskbar code and am working on an opengl taskbar for it now. i just joined stryker's calyptos project, because a lot of his ideas are very similiar to mine and he seems to want to make a distro that is very usable, even if it means not staying in the lines, which is a good thing. my two current big personal projects are Tick/Shear, which is a meta-data extension to ELF executables to provide embedded application icons, among other things, and XCalibur, a modern X11 toolkit designed to keep code down and speed as high as possible, while keeping modularity and seperation of policy and mechanism.
about me myself? I'm 17 and I live in ishpeming, michigan (thats the upper peninsula of michigan). I play a lot of video games, like Enemy Territory and America's Army. I have a celeron 1.7ghz processor with a gf2mx altho i plan to upgrade vid cards soon. I play guitar and I just bought an ibanez grx40z and man is it beautiful. I am only fluent in one language although I know a little german. I write music when I get the time. I usually wake up at 2 PM and go to sleep at 5 AM (its 5 AM now btw). I wear white socks, and like black clothes, although red and dark blue are some of my good colors too. I hate microsoft. I love linux. I got my first pc in 98, with, guess what, windows 98 on it. I gradually became a script kiddy html designer, then upgraded to script kiddy visual basic programmer with a pirated copy of vb5. then i got vb6 and i learned a lot of stuff. I looked up to one named JoLT who created the JoLT Media Player (JMP) which was a media player that (as i later learned) used the WMP library for playback. It was made in vb but it was a very nice app. JoLT has since moved on and decided to become a nuclear physicist. I then got a hold of a pirated copy of Delphi 5 and was shocked at how great it was in comparison to VB. I did a lot of work on windows applications with delphi. Then I upgraded to Windows XP (on a 600 mhz pc). I got Delphi 6 and continuedworking, altho the pc ran very slow with XP on it. Eventually I got sick and tired of the cursor freezing and I decided to get linux, which I had heard of referenced by techtv and a few other places. My friend who used linux used slackware, so that's what I got. I downlaoded partition magic and tried to resize my ntfs partiion but the shitty pm software froze and i lost all my data. i whiped the hdd and put linux on, starting from scratch (lemme tell you i had a LOT of work on that). Over the course of about 2 months I learned everything about linux from the command line up, with virtually no help. When I started I didnt so much as know the directory listing command (ls of course). I slowly figured out each of my problems until I got X working. That second I got X working I was so happy, seeing the KDE desktop loading, all nice and pretty (sorta). I was addicted to Linux. I started seriously learning C/C++ and *very* soon I knew them fluently. Now we come to present day.
Hmm now that I've given my pc-related life story.
I like cheese cake a lot. It's my favorite food. Past that I'll eat anything. I drink coffee occasionally but I LOVE coca-cola. I hate pepsi and you all should too because they chickened-out on their deal with ludacris for him to be the pepsi spokesman. so drink coke, the honest cola company. i dont care if cola rots my teeth ill drink it anyway because it tastes good.
For the past 6 months or so I have played with gimp A LOT. I am definitely not an artist, but I know gimp like the back of my hand, and consider myself quite confident in the ways of digital imaging. I don't care if you maccies think that photoshop is better because I have morals regarding OSS/proprietary software and am frankly not willing to pay for anything that is a bit better than gimp. I am perfectly happy with gimp and havent found anything that is impossible to do in gimp yet.
I don't mind trolls because they are a necessary evil but don't mind sniping them off forums once in awhile. I like reading the news, linux.org, /., osnews.com, etc.
i like eye candy, which slicker has always owned in the kde department. if anyone thinks karamba is a better eye candy idea than slicker just wait for about a month and youll see what im talking about...
i like chatting in irc and aim which i do alot. i chat on #freenode and my nick is xfury. I have registered #xcalibur, because that is my project and want to have a place to discuss it when development begins to heat up (aka, when i get the time). i am a regular in #linuxos, #slicker, sometimes #xwin, #opengl, and #qt. look for me in those. i will most always be in either #slicker or #linuxos.
I like KDE over GNOME because it's better for configuration and has always been an eye-candy lovers palace.
i need to sleep now, its 5:30 AM
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well it all started when i was two. my mom lost me at the circus. the clowns gave me a place to sleep.
the trapeze people droped me twice. that sexy ladies snake bit me. thats when i started hanging with the freaks. the sword swallowing lady was real nice to me. her midget husband didnt like me but i kicked his ass. then i turned 4.
thats about as far as i can get before people jump from the window.
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I agree, Pepsi tastes like shit and needs to die. Plus cheese cake is some of the greatest stuff on earth. I think I'll tell my computer-related life up to now.
Despite the fact that everyone in my community uses windows (even now the furthest from that is one of my friends using Lindows), I was lucky enough to have parents that used macs. Our first computer was a Macintosh SE/30 (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112170) that I thought was amazing. I loved using KidPix, playing Number Munchers, and watching my brother play Dungeons and Dragons. After it's monitor died, we got a Performa 6116 CD (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112315). That was also amazing (mostly because it had a color monitor). It was motly then that I started playing around with computers a lot. Soon we also got a second computer (a Quadra, but I don't know what model). After a while we replaced the Quadra with a PowerMac 8500/150 (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112360). A couple years ago I started messing with reorces whie developing plugins for a game called EV: Override (http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/games/evo). Eventually my Dad got an iBook and last year my mom got a PowerBook. At the end of the summe brother is going to get an iBook with money from his summer job. The monitor from the Performa died a couple years ago so we replaced it with a PowerMac 5500/225 (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112404). Lately I've been trying to get the Performa hard drive to work in the 8500. Not long ago someone gave me a QuickTake 100, which still works pretty well. A few months ago I also set up a network that connects all the computers in our house to the internet. It's pretty annoying with most of the people around me who worship windows and the xbox, and those who do listen to me don't care about what microsoft does, just so long as they can still suf the internet and instant message their friends.
For most of my life I never cared about what operating system a computer used. Last year when I heard about this web site on a game sevice called GameRanger. I liked Linux and have wanted to try it out ever since (but haven't actually had much time yet). I had already begun getting frustrated with windows, so this site was easy to agree with. Recently I've been trying to learn how to use the Mac OS X terminal. Does anyone know a good tutorial where I can learn just the basics and figure it out from there?
[ July 12, 2003: Message edited by: M51DPS ]
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i hate computers. more and more, they drive me insane. fuck em. turn the machine off, go outside, go paint some graf. go listen to some music. read a book. nope. i will sit here and fiddle with php and this goddamn intraweb bullshit. it is fun, but it is too involved. at least for me, it is too involved. computers sucked me in and there is no turning back. i am a geek. fate or something. oh well. that is enough of that. this thread needs to catch up. the ignore thread is kicking ass. probably because it says ignore and we are a reblious people who will do the opposite and post in it till it is larger than the large images thread. speaking of which, i think it is time to add a desktop to that thread .. . .
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Hey, we've nearly got halfway to the other thread! We're catching up! Who here thinks that I should keep my bling sig picture year round instead of just for July?
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Originally posted by M51DPS:
Who here thinks that I should keep my bling sig picture year round instead of just for July?
Someone else.
I would say something meaningfull, but I have to go.
Will we ever land on the moon?
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Originally posted by M51DPS:
....Who here thinks that I should keep my bling sig picture year round instead of just for July?
i think, that next month, we come up with something else. only this time, i am not going to make it ;)
maybe we should have them all the same szie (the bling sigs).
(http://www.ecsyle.com/pictures/sigs/m51dps_bling.jpg)
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Part of this has been copied from another long post:
Okay, this is how I came to discover alternatives. I remember when I was a Wolfenstein junkie back in 98. There was (and still is) a flourishing community of Wolf3d mods since the release of its source code in 95. Anyway, I wanted to make my own (I never got around to finish it), and I saw pictures of the Mac version, which impressed me. So, wanting to try the Mac version, I download Basilisk II and started toying with System 7.
Imagine, I had only occasionally used Macs at school in 94-96, I didn't even know that Apple was still in business, let alone anything about the newer iMacs. I had no particular opinion about them; all I knew was that there was 'this other' computer out there, not knowing that any other platform existed, young and blissfully ignorant about Amiga, Acorn, BeOS and even Linux.
So, I was impressed by an old version of Mac OS, compared to Windows 98. Impressed by its simplicity and its elegance. Impressed the first time I slid an .sit icon on the Stuffit Expander icon on the desktop, and seeing the a fully expanded folder named after the archive, right next to the .sit or the .hqx. And yes, I was also impressed by the icons 'body only' feature. Impressed at how everything was easy everything was. No installer, no huge splash screen. The OS just minded its own business. And when I tried Wolfenstein, I was impressed by the graphical capabilities of the Macintosh so early back in the DOS days.
I remember that I wasn't particularly fond of Windows, either. I remember how much I protested when Dad installed Windows 95 on the computer, afraid (and rightly so) that all my DOS games wouldn't work anymore.
Anyway, as I hunted for more stuff to use in Basilisk, I went across emulation sites that talked about other systems I had never heard of before -- like Amiga, Acorn, NeXT -- which I tried out with various emulators. Eventually, I heard about BeOS, QNX, then Linux, and realised that there were other x86 operating systems than Windows and DOS.
So, I tried out BeOS -- which I still use today --, and I really liked it; I was impressed by its speed, its simplicity and its stability. Then, I heard about UNIX, and how it was much more stable than Windows. So, one day, I got a good book at the library, and installed Red Hat Linux 6.0. I eventually found out about other distros, and tried them out -- mainly Mandrake and SuSE.
For two years, I learnt about the world of UNIX. I was starting to know much more about computers than ever before, and eventually surpassed my dad. I was so proud.
And then, wandering from website to website, hunting for anti-microsoft propaganda for entertainment, I eventually came across fuckmicrosoft.com. I lurked there for a very long time -- at least a year and a half -- before posting anything. Which I regret, considering the state of the forums right now.
Now you know how I came here.
[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
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I got here a few months ago, right when it turned to crap with all of the political shit. I really wish I had gotten here sooner . . .
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I agree with you, M51DPS. I am saddened by how much advocating an OS has become tainted with political motives (other than common hatred for Microsoft, of course). For example, people who would piss on Apple because they refuse to give their source away. As a result, I've come to dislike Linux, and especially the FSF and their proponents.
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Jeez! looks like I've stumbled on the kiss and tell corner :rolleyes:
OK here we go then.....
I think (as you all seem to be on the age trip) I might be the oldest one here. I'm 32, is that old? To be honest I still feel 12 on a good day, if I'm feeling especially sensible then perhaps 18.
My real name is Jason Lane, I grew up in Spain, about 30 clicks south of Barcelona, in a place called Villanueva y la Geltru. Spent 12 years there all told and although both my parents are English I consider my self, well not typical English. We were there when Franco was still dictating, which was interesting. I have a very early memory of the local fascist (blue shirts I think they called them) goose stepping in a local plaza. Strange days!
I finished my education here in the UK, which was kind of hard as I had attended a Spanish state school. My parents took me out of the American School in Barcelona after about 3 months. For which I'm grateful, I have nothing against Americans BTW.
My first experience of computing was with a BBC Micro and Acorn systems, which was, uh, fun. I never liked M$, I loved Apple as soon as I used one (an LC475). At University I studied Architecture and I guess that was my first real exposure to useful computing, i.e, Auto-CAD. What It made me realise though was that I didn't want to be an Architect, I found this new thing called the web, far, far more exciting. So I took a year out and trained myself in all things web. Soon I found myself working in London for a New Media Studio (never liked that expression). This was really good because I got to work for some pretty major clients, learning tons of stuff along the way. I was really early on in my career that I knew were I wanted to be and that was basically XML, so I started learning everything about XML, XSL(T), some Java, yada, yada, yada. After 4 years working in London I left, when the company I was with started to use ASP and obviously wanted me to use M$ shit as well, no way jose. I though they sold out.
So now I've started my own little venture with a friend and were actually well on the way to producing some kick ass XML/Java sites. I commit some small bits from time to time to the Apache XML project, Specifically Forrest. I hope to have the time to be more involved with this. I work almost entirely now on OS X and some times Suse. In a year or so time we also hope to be able to release a 100% pure XML/Java ecommerce system that will be open source of course. Still have to find a name for it though.
My favourite colours are blue and green (did you know that in the Inca culture they had know word for green?), My favourite pastime other than coding is Skiing. I prefer Coke, not Pepsi (did you know Fanta was he soft drink supplied to the German troops during WW2). I like useless facts.
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Originally posted by M51DPS:
Recently I've been trying to learn how to use the Mac OS X terminal. Does anyone know a good tutorial where I can learn just the basics and figure it out from there?
There some good books out there now, however there are some good online resources for example:
OS X (http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/ct/51)
To be honest I know it's become a cliche but google it (http://tongue.gif)
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I like useless facts.
Heh, me too. By the way, did you know that VW was sponsored by Adolf Hitler himself?
Since we're describing each other, Zardoz, what does you sig mean? Is it a reference?
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Originally posted by Laukev7:
Heh, me too. By the way, did you know that VW was sponsored by Adolf Hitler himself?
Since we're describing each other, Zardoz, what does you sig mean? Is it a reference?
Yup to a really bad (cool film), possibly the worst film Sean Connery has ever stared in. A must see:
Zardoz (http://www.badmovies.org/movies/zardoz/)
And what about Laukev7 ?
It is now 3:54 am in the UK and I have to motivate myself for work tomorrow, goodnight ;)
[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
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hmm... for you linux people out there...
When did u first start using linux? how did u hear about it? has anyone here used it since the begining? what was ur first distro?
me? I started a few years ago when I was playing muds. I wanted to make one. I looked for a host and everyone said they ran linux... i was like "what the hell is linux?". Luckily I drove myself to figure out what linux was. I've been using it since redhat 7.1 (my first distro).
bacon is good.
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Laukev stands for Laurier Kevin, with a 7 appended to make it look cool. Very imaginative, isn't it.
I have to find a real nick someday...
And my sig means 'Down with Microsoft! Bill to the gallows!'
I also had a sig in Latin which meant 'Give back to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and back to God what belongs to him'.
[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
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Originally posted by Stryker:
hmm... for you linux people out there...
When did u first start using linux? how did u hear about it? has anyone here used it since the begining? what was ur first distro?
me? I started a few years ago when I was playing muds. I wanted to make one. I looked for a host and everyone said they ran linux... i was like "what the hell is linux?". Luckily I drove myself to figure out what linux was. I've been using it since redhat 7.1 (my first distro).
bacon is good.
Before I finally do go to bed, MUDS are cool, you should make one. I had an idea to make aMatrix style mud, figthing agents, hacking tasks....
Red Hat 4.2, but I never really got into Red Hat for one reason or another. Then again if you know *nixes you know *nixes, I find it fairly easy most times to pick up a *nix distro I haven't used before.
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Originally posted by Laukev7:
Laukev stands for Laurier Kevin, with a 7 appended to make it look cool. Very imaginative, isn't it.
I have to find a real nick someday...
And my sig means 'Down with Microsoft! Bill to the gallows!'
I also had a sig in Latin which meant 'Give back to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and back to God what belongs to him'.
[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
I think that is a real nick, no? Sounds kind of Russian to me, I like it
:D
Oh yeah the Latin, yup I knew that (http://tongue.gif) My Latin is pretty good, especially speaking Spanish helps with that. That comes from:
Matthew 22:15-22
Thus showing that we must pay our taxes :D
And finally......a goodnight ladies and gentlemen.
[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]
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Glad you like my nick, then...
I know Spanish too, although not fluently. I just need to practise... (http://smile.gif)
I'd like to learn Latin for real, one day. I just love languages. With Spanish, coupled with French (which is much more complicated than Spanish) and German (which has declinasions), it's going to be even easier. (http://tongue.gif)
Nighty, Zardoz.
[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
[ July 18, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
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Green is an excellent color. Bacon is so good you can almost feel your heart slowing down. Plus turkey is good too.
I am a big mac zealot, and have been content with the Mac OS my whole life. This lead to me not caring about anything else. Eventually I came here I saw that big list of alternatives and was amazed that there was so much more. After looking around a bit I learned plenty of things about Linux, UNIX, an their history
Here's my stupid off-topic question. How can Pluto be considered a planet? IT'S TINY! With an estimated size on only 1,430 miles, wouldn't it be closer to a comet? Sure it has a moon, but it only has an estimated diameter of 750 miles.
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It doesn't count as a planet anymore.
Ha, ha!
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Originally posted by TheQuirk:
It doesn't count as a planet anymore.
Ha, ha!
where'd u see that?
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It's a planet if the center of it's orbit is the sun. If it's orbits center is another body then it's a moon, like our moon center of orbit is the earth then the sun.
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What about the asteroid belt? Are all of those asteroids planets then?
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No, they are not. Because they are called asteroids. They are not called planets because scientists decided they are too small to be considered planets. And Pluto is much bigger than any asteroid.
The difference is only in name. If a chair is made of wood, it would be just as correct to call it a chair than calling it a lump of wood. It is only because some european invented the word 'chair' and everyone who speaks English agrees that it should be called 'chair' that it is called 'chair'. But the French, the German and the Spanish don't agree on that. They call it 'chaise', 'Stuhl' or 'silla'.
An asteroid is a lump of rocks, or ice, or iron. The earth is also a lump of iron, rocks and ice. What's the difference? Their position in the solar system and their size.
So there, names are not absolute. Now that I made my point, you may gag me and tie me up now. :D
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let the gaggings commence :D
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and now that that is out of the way, we can let this thread continue.
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Okay, but can't it still be considered a large comet with a far orbit? Either way, I'm not calling it a planet. Therefor it no longer is, according to your reasoning. Consider yourself tied and gagged. Hey, i'm also only three posts from having 150!
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mmmmm... mmmmmmfff...
(should have been careful for what I wished for)
By the way, I'm a ventriloquist*, so you'll just have to endure more of my soporific scientific chatter anyway. (http://tongue.gif)
* Not really.
Anyway, comets, contrarily to planets, have much more erratic orbits than Pluto, and, by definition, are followed by a long tail of dust. Also, they travel at much higher velocities than planets. Therefore, Pluto cannot be a comet, even though they are, like the former, mainly composed of ice.
Oh, and you alone cannot determine whether Pluto should be called an asteroid or a planet or a comet. The choice have to be agreed upon a majority of experts in the domain, and the definition attributed to the name has to correspond to the characteristics of the object, and vice versa. ;)
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Still, any tails of dust would be pretty much impossible to detect because pluto is so far away. But I guess you were right.
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I'd hate to live on Pluto, a year is equivallent to 248 earth years and a day lasts 6 earth days. Plus is friggin frezzing -233
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But, on the other hand, imagine the long vacations you would get!
*runs away in cover*
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But imagine a hard life of a full-timer. (http://smile.gif)
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"This NY Times story reports the controversial decision by the American Museum of Natural History to no longer list Pluto among the planets. Although they don't actually declare Pluto's loss of planetary status outright, their newly opened planetarium classifies Pluto simply as a Kuiper Belt object. A staff member says only 1 in 10 people ask about the 'missing' planet." - http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/01/22/1442230&mode=thread&tid=160 (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/01/22/1442230&mode=thread&tid=160)
On an interesting note, I belive three new minor planets were found lately--all three smaller than pluto. Just search the science section of slashdot, news.google.com science.
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And you think that just because one museum in United States made that decision, that every other country will follow suit?
Typical American egocentrism. (just kidding ;) )
[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
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Originally posted by Laukev7:
And you think that just because one museum in United States made that decision, that every other country will follow suit?
Typical American egocentrism. (just kidding ;) )
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Well, I'm sure quite a lot of organizations will follow.
Oh, and good job on the comment about Americans. I would probably cry and whine about it, if I was one. (http://smile.gif)
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Oh, I know you're not American. But many people on these boards are.
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FUCK OFF you anti-american commie bastards!!111
oh yeah. does this board have "sarcasm" tags?
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Comrade Stalin, let's arrest, torture & execute this anti-communist people's enemy! :E
:D
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quote:
Originally posted by NikS:
Comrade Stalin, let's arrest, torture & execute this anti-communist people's enemy! :E
:D
:eek: :D :D
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But you can cast off your capitalist parents, give all your assets to the Red Army and maybe live. But maybe we'll feed you to zombie Lenin, who lies in sacred Mausoleum.
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I think we're catching up in here, it's 69:70.
If I were to be making a distro, do you think I should save up and buy some publishing equipment (cd labeler perhaps, unlabeled cds) or wait until we're done and get a real publisher?
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Pluto has an atmosphere, asteroids don't. Just though I'd throw that in :D
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Originally posted by Zardoz:
Pluto has an atmosphere, asteroids don't. Just though I'd throw that in :D
I wasn't aware that an atmosphere was required for planets.
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Originally posted by Stryker:
I wasn't aware that an atmosphere was required for planets.
I didn't say that did I, I just said Pluto has an atmosphere. Asteroids don't. So it seems to me that if the American Museum of Natural History is saying that it isn't....Well do they need the publicity???
Of course Plutos is planet. ask NASA
;)
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Actually, Pluto has a "temporary" atmosphere. It forms when it's close (well, by its standards) to the sun, causing some of its ice to melt. When it moves away from the sun, it doesn't have enough gravitational pull to hold onto its atmosphere, and it basically "floats away".
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Not only planets have atmospheres. In fact, some satellites like Io and Europa have volcanic activity. It is even speculated that there might be primitive life forms on Europa (no offence to Europeans :D )
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I didn't realize it had a temporary atmosphere... makes sense, nothing that frigid
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Originally posted by Zardoz:
And yes we do have plenty of primitive life forms, mostly in the european parliament :D
Padabeem-padaboom!
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Your goverment has the wisdom of a retarded goat too? Wow, what a coincidence!
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No that's just the european parliament, my goverment has the wisdom of a retarded goat stew. :D
I don't think that Blair will last much longer here, especially since his scape goat commited suicide, literally.
Don't get me started on consumate liars, sorry I mean politicians :mad:
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I was under the impression that the European Parliament had more sense than the Bush Administration. What's wrong with them?
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http://users.tpg.com.au/irulz0r/imfuckingnuts.html (http://users.tpg.com.au/irulz0r/imfuckingnuts.html)
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I was under the impression that the European Parliament had more sense than the Bush Administration. What's wrong with them?
Perhaps they do, well I'm sure they do. There still politicians though.
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Why is it we all switched to democracies again??
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Hummm! duno!? Perhaps it's a latent topic thats's always on peoples mind. Perhaps because were loosing it?
Bah! Politics, I think the last time (democracy) politics ever worked was in the Helenistc period in ancient Greece. Actually a very interesting period in political history was the Spanish Civil war 1934 - 39. Barcelona was the center of Facsist resistance, the problem however was that everyone was there, the Anarchists, International Brigade, Liberal parties, communist parties of all sorts. So they started to fight amongst each other when they should have been resisting the Nazi's and Facsists. That's what defeated them, petty infighting and the fact that they called the "Guardia Civil" to sort the problem out who promtly handed then over to Franco. I never understood how they could have made such a huge miss-judgement of character.
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I guess I could believe that Pluto is a part of the Kuiper belt, how close are they? And it's 84-71, we're winning.