Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: avello500 on 5 February 2003, 04:34
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ok if you read thru the other post then you know whats up. if not then i suggest you read thru cabin fever post.
so we need a name. i figure once we get a good list then we go for a poll.
everyone is welcome to help as long as we keep it constructive please.
my first suggestion is "free your desktop"
ill come up with more soon im sure.
who's next?
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desktop revolution
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This is the perfect opportunity to use a cool acronym.
*People for Better Operating System Alternatives (PBOSA)
*People for Better Computing
*People for Superior Computing
*The World Open Source Alternatives Group (WOSAG)
*Or simply "The Open Force." Then our logo could be a penguin in cammo gear holding a rifle or something.
xyle or muffin man or me could make a cool logo (we could have another image battle).
[ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: Macman: LITERALLY a genius / bob ]
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The Stable Software Society.
The Open Computing Organization
The send Speedfreak a cure for whatever hellish sickness he has and get people off of Windows Foundation.
Oog.
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those are nice choices
how about
*freedom for computers*
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"Software Freedom Foundation"
motto "Join us now and share software"
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How about "OpenOpen" (yes they are joined together.
Motto "Opening Open Source Software."
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i like OpenOpen and Software Freedom Foundation. i also like the two slogans that go with them.
What's wrong with 'The Microsoft Eradication Society'? are you afraid the webmaster will sue us?
I really think there should be a more private discussion board for those who are really interested in this to sign up on and really get down to it. or maybe an email mailing list would be a better choice?
as for an original name, how about 'Better Computing for Businesses and Education (BCBE)' now *wait* i know that's boring and you've forgotten it already but listen to me for a second. We don't need a flashy name like 'radically free software society', we need something that isn't going to startle and frighten the windoids who we are targeting. they are very delicate remember and they have the power to throw our material in the bin and ignore us if they think we are a bunch of radicals. this must be done properly from the start. That's why Better Computing for Businesses and Education is a good idea. What we really need is some kind of corporate logo to use as a letterhead (i'm no designer but i know a few of you are).
Those are my thoughts.
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I don't like to see a cleaver and nifty name like Open Force wasted, but maybe someone can use it for something else. Yes, there are already too many anti-Windows people that are radicals, although maybe we shouldn't have Microsoft actually in the name either.
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now i *really* like Open Force, but i strongly stand by 'Better Computing for Businesses and Education (BCBE)' because it's not threatening and it is vague enough that the recipient might actually read something that says that at the top.
i think we should get in touch with the following two organisations and see if we can't work out something with them:
The Open CD (http://www.theopencd.org/) quote:
Currently, the disc is aimed solidly at non-techies. The primary audience is expected to consist mostly of people who use computers regularly for their work, but are not power users. This might be, for example, Jane from Accounting, who spends a lot of time working on spreadsheets and checking her email. She can find her way around the computer without too much trouble, but wouldn't know a kernel from a TCP/IP stack. By showing the benefits of Open Source Software to users such as these, we hope to encourage its adoption -- in the workplace, in schools, and by individuals.
and
GNU Generation (who make GNUWinII) (http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/en/)
quote:
The purpose of GNUWin-II is to help Windows users discover the free software and Open Source world. After using free software on MS-Windows, it is easier to migrate to a free operating system (GNU/Linux for instance), where the same programs are used.
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I agree with Calum's proposal. Couldn't have come up with a better one myself. The Microsoft Eradication Society is also nice but a bit radical to a certain extent.
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quote:
Calum:
I really think there should be a more private discussion board for those who are really interested in this to sign up on and really get down to it. or maybe an email mailing list would be a better choice?
yes. i think thats a good idea. it will def control the trolls, and we can actually focus on the objective.
as for logo design & graphics, i'll lend my hand (or mouse as the case may be) for some design work. free & for a cause (http://smile.gif)
'Better Computing for Businesses and Education (BCBE)' is a good name. its to the point & non-insulting.
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im all for BCBE, its direct, informative yet not offensive. i also agree a more private discussion area might be more productive.
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don't forget those of us that are users of other platforms. the BCBE is good... what about a logo? The soldier penguin is all well and good, but we're more than just Linux users. What about Tux, the BSD Daemon, geared up, with one of them (the BSD Daemon) holding an Apple shield, since OS X is BSD-derived.
but that'd get a little too busy. Maybe sillhouettes of different logos, like Tux, the Daemon, the X, the Solaris logo, the Irix logo, et cetera
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how about a open door?
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I like that.
Also, even though it would require getting the rights via the Rich Imbeciles and Assholes of America, do a TV spot with a hard rock, almost punk version of "Blowing In The Wind".
Show windows crashing, and then show Linux, Mac OS, et cetera. and it running perfectly. show screenshots of windoze product activation, and cops showing up at someone's house while they're installing xp.
How many times must the system go down (show crashes and BSODS)
Before you can call it a flop? (show people looking shocked and disgusted)
How many viruses must your box have (show magazine and newspaper articles about viruses)
Before you can call it sick? (show norton AV running)
And how many years must the four-color-flag fly (show Windows logo)
Before we can all move ahead? (show an XP CD being shot and exploding)
The answer my friend (show quick screenshots of LInux, intermixed with LInus and Tux)
Is blowing in the wind (Mac OS X and the Apple logo)
The answer is blowing in the wind. (Organization name, logo, and slogan in white on a black b/g)
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BCBE sounds good. Our logo would have to be simple, something that a lot of people would recognize, like McDonalds' golden arches or Nike's check mark. I don't have any ideas, but I'm thinking.
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A simple logo should do it and the idea of an "open door" or something similar sounds good. Simple logos are also a lot catchier. Well, what are we waiting for?
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im sketching as i write this. i will play with a few styles and post the results soon. i actually just made an aqua style tux. looks cool ;)
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I like OpenOpen. Refers to the product - OSS. Cool.
BCBE is a problem as www.bcbe.com (http://www.bcbe.com) is not legible. And if you say it nobody will understand what you say.
A commando Tux is a good use of Tux.
Open door logo - ++good and appropriate for OpenOpen.
zooloo
PS. Michael Moore, Stupid Whire Men (Thanks Calum) - he talks about students getting elected to the school board or something like that.
Is information for students/campus a way to go? Point out money to MS is money away from THEM.
Please read Stupid White Men and this might make more sense (http://smile.gif)
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this is my start. i dont know what to use, openOpen or BCBE. these can be adjusted to use either one.
study01 (http://www.sederquistavery.com/roy/openOpen.jpg)
im still working on the aqua tux. ill post that soon.
[ February 05, 2003: Message edited by: ecsyle_one ]
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A few ideas (http://www.angelfire.com/games5/clanfcd/openideas.html)
I just did them quickly in Photoshop, so if we decide on one of them someone can make them look better.
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those picks look nice.
hows this for a slogan?
tired of windows? try the door. its open.
just a quick thought.
im not pushing the name or anything.
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i've gone off the idea of BCBE to be honest, i think it sounds like more of a slogan than a name. OpenOpen is good though. but i really think our logo and name should be quite traditional sounding and normal looking. how about OpenOpen Software Information Service (OpenOpen or OOSIS for short! (http://tongue.gif) )
not too sure about a commando tux. maybe that would be a good logo if we decide to target students instead of organisations, but the original idea was to write to local government and schools/colleges, yes? also, what do people think about getting in touch with the people from GNUWinII (http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/en/index.html), the FSF (http://www.fsfeurope.org/help/help.en.html) and The Open CD (http://www.theopencd.org/about.php)?
Of course we need to get ourselves settled into the idea of being a 'thing' first and decide what we're doing, but i think maybe we could initiate some communication with them in the interests of our cause.
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i think we should contact those organizations once we are settled and organized.
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i'm currently setting up a small board which i plan will be used specifically and exclusively to help us settle our ideas and get sorted out.
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okay boys and girls, any further OpenOpen related stuff can go in http://openopen.cjb.net/ (http://openopen.cjb.net/) so it doesn't get buried here in the lounge, deal?
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I like OpenOpen with the bottom-left logo (or the one with the logo & Tux):
EDIT: Didn't know it was one big image!
(http://www.sederquistavery.com/roy/openOpen.jpg)
[ February 06, 2003: Message edited by: The Muffin Man ]
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By the way, I am fully geared up for CD sales and production, as part of my website that kinda got left out. If we are gonna be distributing CDs like the OpenCD or Knoppix...it's all here.
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It keeps timing out when I go to the other site, Calum.
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I know we've move to the other place - bit it's not up yet and I am so impressed I want to say it now.
Macman: LITERALLY a genius / bob - They are the right graphics - the open door + Tux = excellent.
Top right is my favourite - perhaps a drop shadow on the words Open? Not a big one, close and quite faint - perhaps?
Cool anyway - and apologies to ecsyle_one, I think your graphics are also very good but Macman's are more appropriate (not better) (http://smile.gif)
zooloo
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quote:
Originally posted by zooloo:
I know we've move to the other place - bit it's not up yet and I am so impressed I want to say it now.
Macman: LITERALLY a genius / bob - They are the right graphics - the open door + Tux = excellent.
Top right is my favourite - perhaps a drop shadow on the words Open? Not a big one, close and quite faint - perhaps?
Cool anyway - and apologies to ecsyle_one, I think your graphics are also very good but Macman's are more appropriate (not better) (http://smile.gif)
zooloo
not to worry zooloo. that is why we post what we have done, in order to figure out what direction we want to go. i like the idea of the open door, but we need to work with it a bit. i havent had a chance to work on it since yesterday, but tonight i will play off of what macman has done.
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hello, i really like ecsyle's graphics, and i am using them on the forum for the time being, but i really do agree that the opening door is an excellent concept. maybe we could have some fusion of the ideas? i also like the double 'O' design. maybe we could use more than one design depending on whatever.
Oh yes, finally, i have got the openopen discussion board going. It's up and i promise it will stay up, so go for it.
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I like the logo on Calum's forum...
I prefer the Tux looking penguin peering round the door.
I like the use of ecsyle_one's test script.
The interlocking O's look like a chain to me which is not good. The design also looks a bit cluttered with 2 logos.
OpenOpen or openOpen? I prefer OpenOpen
The combination of ecsyle_one's text and Macman's Tux gets my vote - in fact it's a very good design and a good name too.
Gosh! All your talent are ours!
zooloo
PS The URLs openopen.org and .co.uk are ours - I registered them this morning. I'll sort out webspace etc for our use later.
.com is already gonee.
[ February 07, 2003: Message edited by: zooloo ]
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the joke's on me it seems. my webhosts appear to be down right now. they are usually fab but of course hours after i set up the openopen forums they're down. of course by the time you read this, it'll be back up (hopefully) making me look like an idiot. Anyway, go and sign up on the openopen.cjb.net forums if you want to discuss the project. that's when they're back up.
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it's up btw.
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cool