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Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: suselinux on 11 August 2003, 07:00
web page (http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/726)


a mail list shows the conversations between engineers over wether to spell flavour with or with out the "U"

frankly I think it's stupid, Linux is an international project, yet people want to use American English.  Only one country uses American English, all other countries use ........English.

any thoughts??
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: slvadcjelli42 on 11 August 2003, 07:10
My thought is "Why were a bunch of engineers arguing about flavo(u)rs in the first place?"   :D  

(Also, as long as you're on that topic, how do you people spell grey [well, you can see how I spell it]? I've been wondering about that for some reason.)
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: Laukev7 on 11 August 2003, 21:54
Grey. Flavour.

British spelling. Always.

[ August 11, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]

Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: billy_gates on 11 August 2003, 11:25
quote:
Originally posted by suselinux:
web page (http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/726)
frankly I think it's stupid, Linux is an international project, yet people want to use American English.  Only one country uses American English, all other countries use ........English.



frankly I think it's stupid, Linux is an international project, yet people want to use English.  Only the most important country in the world uses American English.
that is soooooo stupid

In my Patriotic fever I think they should use American English.  But personally, in my english class I like using those weirdo british words.
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: mobrien_12 on 11 August 2003, 13:52
quote:
Originally posted by suselinux:

frankly I think it's stupid, Linux is an international project, yet people want to use American English.  Only one country uses American English, all other countries use ........English.



Oh puleeze... next you will be saying we should all use a consistent system of measurments based on powers of ten with easy to convert prefixes like milli and centi and that has freezing and boiling points of water defined as 0 and 100 degrees.

CRIPES.


  :D
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: kibawarior on 11 August 2003, 14:30
wow come on people american english is like a coliquail(hope I spelt it right)version of british english. have as many languages as possible in a linux distro british english is used in more countries than just england.

Its used in india, pakistan, sri lanka all european countries japan chzek republic china all of them use british english aswell as their native languages.

lets put this in to prespective the rest of the world uses british english only america uses its coliquil version of british english.

why does america always want everyone to make alowances for their needs i don't make an american spell and talk british english so why must i and the rest of the world use there's

In summary this argument is pointless you can't just have british or u.s. english you must use all languages.
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: hm_murdock on 11 August 2003, 15:15
go with colour

because much like armour, it's just cooler than bland american english
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: Pissed_Macman on 11 August 2003, 16:52
Who cares??? It's just a bunch of words! Jeezus I can't believe we're having this conversation!!!! (and who the hell puts an O in maneuver??)
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: cahult on 11 August 2003, 17:27
How odd it may sound, american english is actually the right way to spell english, historically. It
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: Laukev7 on 11 August 2003, 21:23
quote:
Originally posted by cahult:
How odd it may sound, american english is actually the right way to spell english, historically. It
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: cahult on 12 August 2003, 00:03
quote:
Originally posted by Laukev7:


Not quite. flavour, favour, perhaps, but not labour, parlour, humour, armour, glamour, saviour, ardour or endeavour. And don't forget civilise, which comes from French  civiliser, or tyre, from Old English tyren, or encyclopaedia. Most of American spelling comes from spelling simplification proposed by Webster, like 'practice' as a verb instead of practise, or 'civilize', or 'gage' instead of gauge, 'theater' instead of theatre or even 'tung' instead of 'toungue'.




Well, Webster must be right, eh? ;)  The words you are quoting were just entering english back then. Some were quite new, some did actually enter american english first. But you
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: Laukev7 on 12 August 2003, 00:22
quote:
Either way, the way to say words in american english is more like the english spoken in Britain 300-500 years ago.


So does French in Quebec, but just because a dialect resembles a language spoken centuries ago doesn't mean it's the 'correct' one. And you don't specify to which dialect in England you compare American English.  If you compare American English to, say, Cockney, then you may be right. But saying that American English is more similar to Shakespearan English than 'british' english is too broad a claim.
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: billy_gates on 12 August 2003, 00:30
I think that they should be spelled as the author spelled them.  So if the author is not American they would spell it however they like (probably with the u).  Then Americans would spell it however they like (probably without the u).  There I think I fixed our dilemma which shouldn't even be happening.
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: kibawarior on 12 August 2003, 00:47
wait what are you all trying to say?
british english was the basis for us english basically americans were to lazy to spell or talk like the brits so they came up with their own form of english which the correct term is coliqual

us english is not english its stupid why do americans always have to be soooo lazy, okay now i'm ranting.

please just forget about it you must have this choice even though its like cockneys making their own dictionaries and damanding putting it in to software. so if you think thats stupid think its stupid but let everything be there's no point ok
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: cahult on 12 August 2003, 01:14
quote:
Originally posted by Laukev7:


So does French in Quebec, but just because a dialect resembles a language spoken centuries ago doesn't mean it's the 'correct' one. And you don't specify to which dialect in England you compare American English.  If you compare American English to, say, Cockney, then you may be right. But saying that American English is more similar to Shakespearan English than 'british' english is too broad a claim.




Right me if I
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: suselinux on 12 August 2003, 02:43
Canada's first priminister was scottish

besides look at newfies (people from Newfoundland, Canada) They have got an accent so odd they make the
hardest cockney shake there head in wonder.

but they use the U
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: billy_gates on 12 August 2003, 03:28
quote:
Originally posted by kibawarior:
wait what are you all trying to say?
british english was the basis for us english basically americans were to lazy to spell or talk like the brits so they came up with their own form of english which the correct term is coliqual

us english is not english its stupid why do americans always have to be soooo lazy, okay now i'm ranting.

please just forget about it you must have this choice even though its like cockneys making their own dictionaries and damanding putting it in to software. so if you think thats stupid think its stupid but let everything be there's no point ok




You call it lazy.  I call it efficient.  There is absolutely no need for the u, so we took it out.  Efficiency is the "new" thing.

Its time to step out of the stoneage and recognize that whatever America wants.  It gets.  You saw this in WWI WWII Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War, and Gulf War II.  Or as I like to say it; Germany might get europe... then America, stop them --- Pay back for pearl harbor... with radiation --- asian war number 2 --- asian war number 3 --- Oil War I --- Oil War II.  Don't tempt us to start a war on language.  Even Americans wouldn't like that... but we'd do it anyway.

the second part of this post was written as it came out of my head.  It has no intention of actually being true or even worth being read.  It is just the automatic result of an oil loving, war starting republican.
Title: Kernel engineers fighting over the letter "U"
Post by: cahult on 12 August 2003, 04:27
A war because of how one speak? Hasn